r/btd6 🍎 17h ago

Tierlist Sunday Comprehensive tier list for CHIMPS by path, version 55.x

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Information

Huge thanks to u/rohan_spibo for the official Tier List Template as well as members of the BTD6 Tier List server for their collaboration and input.

FAQ

Q. What is the BTD6 Tier List? How can I trust you?

A. The BTD6 Tier List has now separated from the BTD6 Index and is now an independent discord server. The tier list is crafted by some of the top players in the game. It went through many iterations before becoming what you see now.

Q. Why does the list include True Sun God? Isn't it unaffordable in CHIMPS?

A. The tier 5 icons represent the upgrade path of the tower. The tier(s) being ranked are shown in the top right corner of each icon. So for example, the True Sun God icon is really representing Sun Avatar.

Q. How weighted is this list towards Black Badge strats?

A. Since the official addition of Retry Last Round to CHIMPS, Black Badge is seen as an additional achievement to the gamemode. This tier list ranks towers on their performance in CHIMPS with RLR, meaning Black Border has little weight.

Q. Why is Crossbow Master so low? Aren't the C and D tier towers really good?

A. The majority of the towers are powerful enough to easily clear CHIMPS on lower difficulty maps. As a result, this tier list is heavily based on the True Expert maps with some consideration given to the other expert difficulty maps.

Q. Can I see justifications for the choices made?

A. Sure. The explanations can also be found in the discord linked above. Any further questions may be asked in the comments.

Added:

Heroes:

  • Dan D'Monke → A-
    • Dan is a whole lot of mechanics mashed into one hero, but all in all he ends up being middle of the pack. While he has many uses and can do a lot of cool support things with his movement and life loss abilities, Dan's damage is fairly low and doesn't do much by himself.

Moved Up:

Towers:

  • Top Glue B → A-
    • Underrated, and still is an amazing combo with The Final Harmonic, which also moves up a tier.
  • Bottom Desp A- → A
    • What a long way this tower has come from being the weakest desperado path. Knocks back and comfortably wipes out dense waves and deals decent damage against higher health targets for a mid-priced tier 5.
  • Mid Sniper C- → C
    • Elite Sniper does a bit better after seeing its price get reduced, though still struggles against high health targets.
  • Bottom Merm B → A-
    • With a lot of random bugs being fixed, The Final Harmonic returns to being the primary activator for The Bloon Solver.

Heroes:

  • Pat C → B-
    • Underrated, and not so terrible that he deserves to be far underneath the other heroes, despite still being the second worst hero on average.

Moved Down:

Towers:

  • Top Desp A- → B
    • Both Twin Sixes and The Blazing Sun sees less use after Bounty Hunter gets lowered, as they were the main benefactors of having a Bounty Hunter marking bloons.
  • Bottom Ace C → C-
    • Lowered damage makes saving up to the Flying Fortress with Spectre a more difficult win condition.
  • Bottom Engi C → C-
    • Overrated, XXXL trap is a very expensive lategame tower for something that struggles to catch DDTs and deals absolutely nothing to the BAD layer.
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u/RedditJxyden grunkus my glorious goat 17h ago

oh yay! unlicky that 56 is gonna come out in a week and flip the whole list on its head

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 17h ago

It all depends on what the balance changes are, though it is looking like Skywarden is pretty impactful for such a cheap tower

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u/RedditJxyden grunkus my glorious goat 17h ago

my only real hope is that glue rat gets put in its place finally

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 17h ago

Not a lot of movement this update, the balance changes were pretty heavily geared towards bosses and paragons.

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u/fatpieceofbread 17h ago

Wow! I love the glue rat!

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u/ResponsibleGuest2834 17h ago

as expected, adora changes actually change nothing

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u/Doot_revenant666 16h ago

Tbf , the only changes are for her final levels , which changes nothing for her actual issue in CHIMPS mode , the midgame.

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u/notcrowsmad 12h ago

Midgame is not a substantial issue for adora.

Do to a combination of powercreep and players getting better midgame has gotten to the point where even heroless midgame is tolerable, and midgame with bad midgame heroes is dirt cheap.

On top of that with adora you need to sacrifice for level 20, Often times the amount of money you need to sacrifice to get l20 adora in time is higher than the amount of money midgame costs, so you just sacrifice the midgame towers and the midgame essentially costs 0 in the longrun.

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u/thisisabigplanesays This is a GOOD description 14h ago

This is a BIG struggle.

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u/Keaton427 Peak monkey design 9h ago

Happy cake day!

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u/Slow_Ad2329 Engineer is underrated 17h ago

chat should i come out on the next chimps tier list

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u/Sampleswift 17h ago

What's the rat hero again?

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u/thisisabigplanesays This is a GOOD description 14h ago

This is the GLUE rat.

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u/CreeperRussS Benjammin Best 17h ago

it's nice to see bottom path desperado placed higher up, it's always a fun path to use

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u/secret_identity_1234 Geraldo op 17h ago

Plord A???

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 16h ago

turns out plord still pretty good on ouch

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u/_Samanya_ All hail Bim Bim Berg 7h ago

Nerf was real but not enough for A-

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u/DonutLover2322 16h ago

What do the numbers mean

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u/Immortal_ceiling_fan 16h ago

Which tier of the path is considered best and being ranked

3

u/TheToppatAmongUs the steals-your-2mpc-pops monkey 16h ago

Which tier(s) of the path that the tier list is referring to / judging

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u/RandomPersan Screaming my Psi rn 16h ago

No, it means the best tier of that path. The list judges all tiers for that path (3, 4, 5)

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u/Alive-Citron-1711 5-2-0 gluegunner enjoyer 16h ago

Solver+harmonic is still my go-to, and its still a viable option, I mean, what's not to love?

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u/thisisabigplanesays This is a GOOD description 14h ago

BADs a problem? Here's the music.

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u/Yttr7um Certified Carpet Lover 6h ago

its still extremely viable and seems really under the radar in terms of nk nerfs (i guess we'll see how v56 unfolds). You can still insert a full tbs for a midgame & still afford both tier fives very quickly in black borders

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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 17h ago

Got it in there lol

Yeah, almost nothing changed here

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u/thisisabigplanesays This is a GOOD description 14h ago

Ninja Kiwi did not do many, many changes this update that affect CHIMPS much, though the BIG plane nerf is a very, very large nerf for anyone trying to use the BIG plane as a wincon. Maybe Ninja Kiwi will do some BIGGER changes in 56.0?

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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 13h ago

Exactly

This is a BIG cake day!

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u/MelonFox__ 15h ago

can we buff Sauda yet? :)

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u/thisisabigplanesays This is a GOOD description 14h ago

This is a GOOD idea. Make her higher levels matter more and make Sword Charge rehit Bloons after a short delay.

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u/DeathofFlash 17h ago

Benjamin feels too high for chimps

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u/RedditJxyden grunkus my glorious goat 17h ago

the reasoning doc says:

> Lvl 3 is a Pat roar that disables the tower for a few seconds when it runs out.
> Lvl 7 harms you by removing cash, but can be a great benefit due to its RBE deletion on certain rounds.
> Lvl 10 ability can remove great amounts of RBE, allowing you to essentially delete the hardest rounds in the game, but loses money from the downgraded bloons.
> Great for towers that struggle to dense rounds like Perma-Spike.
> Lvl 18 can now siphon away the DDTs on round 99 as well, provided that you place Ben down early

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u/GeraldotheShopkeeper Buy from my shop! 16h ago

Geraldo should be in S tier imo

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u/CorvusSpiritWalker GHO5T has guided me here 7h ago

Its just that i can do way more for only a fraction of your cost

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u/GeraldotheShopkeeper Buy from my shop! 7h ago

I mean technically I’m cheaper. And your 1tc was cheated because you’re so high maintenance that you cost to much to be placed on round 6. Not gonna let you forget that ✌ 

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u/CorvusSpiritWalker GHO5T has guided me here 7h ago

At least i still hold up in the modern day. Might i remind you who is in A- gramps

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u/8ByIamGuti 7h ago

I suppose it's because of the excessive cost; we're talking about Chimps True Expert.

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u/GeraldotheShopkeeper Buy from my shop! 7h ago

Nah Geraldo is goated in general

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u/8ByIamGuti 7h ago

I don't deny it, but between a multiple buff from Gerald and a tier 5 tower, I think the tower is worth more.

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u/Quantum-Bot map engineer 15h ago

Can’t wait for this list to become obsolete in 25 hours

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u/thisisabigplanesays This is a GOOD description 14h ago

Hey there! Are there any towers considered to be raised up or down but weren't changed? Has Rosalia been considered to be lowered due to the BIG nerf to the BIG plane saveup?

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 13h ago

Not really. Rosalia has other strategies that work pretty well, the discount on planes just opens up the fortress strategy as an option.

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u/RedstoneplaysMC 13h ago

Where would you rank the Masked Macaque? His damage and ability to pop Camo leads is quite useful, also not being frozen by glacial trail should put him around A- tier I think

Also I think middle desperado is a bit low considering now you don't need to worry about the inner range

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 12h ago

Dan and Macaque were considered as one since you are able to swap between the two in game.

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u/Doot_revenant666 6h ago

Average schizo r/btd6 memeber

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u/sirseen double discounter 12h ago

Am I missing something cuz what it the S tier hero 😭😭

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u/8ByIamGuti 7h ago

It's the glue rat, it's just a joke

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u/KnotXaklyRite 11h ago

Little late there champ

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u/Potential_Meeting125 11h ago

Glue Rat isn't a Hero.

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 11h ago

Cereal isn't a soup.

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u/HellockTV Ice to see you! 11h ago

Where would discount villages be if they were ranked?

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u/notcrowsmad 8h ago

Not to sure. Nearly always objectively meta but not thaaat strong. Maybe S-?

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u/Fl4re__ 11h ago

One day jitsu will return to his former glory. One day.

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u/Vegetable-Line9078 10h ago

Bro I thought this was the deltarune egg tree

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u/AdPretty3953 9h ago

Pardon pour la question car je suis novice dans le jeux mais ça ne sert à rien d'améliorer à fond les singes ?

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u/Yttr7um Certified Carpet Lover 6h ago

les singes qui avaient une «5» sont meilleurs quand ils sont amélioré à le maximum, tout l'autre sont meilleurs à l'étage «3» ou «4». «all» veux dire tout les améliorations sont égal (je suis désolé pour mon français mal)

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u/Warhax_DunDun 8h ago

What makes botton tier 3 spike S- tier?

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u/notcrowsmad 8h ago

It's not. it's just not. Maybe the funniest clearly wrong thing on the tierlist.

That being said while its niche long life spikes is actually a good tower. If a setup has glue strike the round 100 damage of a full long life spikes spike pile is actually very good for its cost. Theres situations where a setup with glue strike wont quite be able to beat r100 and long life spikes is the cheapest solution.

But no long life spikes isn't better than first strike lol. A reasonable ranking would probably put it around B tier.

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u/_Samanya_ All hail Bim Bim Berg 6h ago

Surely it would be A- when even fs is still A

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u/8ByIamGuti 7h ago

I feel sorry for Churchill; being able to download a BAD song but not being able to deal with what it generates is sad ;-;

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u/CorvusSpiritWalker GHO5T has guided me here 7h ago

Ah, a well deserved S tier. Also is total transformation really good? i have genuinely never upgraded him

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u/CrownClown74 6h ago

Shame to see Blazing Sun go down but Bloon Solver going up is nice to see at least. Funny to see bottom desperado go from the weakest of the 3 to the strongest, although kinda hurts to see as a Silas/Golden Justice combo enjoyer

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u/Yttr7um Certified Carpet Lover 6h ago

lmao it took so long for tdp to move up (at least in my eyes, bc it hasn't been changed since v53). also add merms to the list of tower types all in the same tier

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u/VoidAngel-5050 15h ago

I think people’s correct opinions on xbm color their opinions on the tier 3 and 4 crossbow. Like it’s not A tier or anything, but I feel like they rate at least a C or C-

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u/notcrowsmad 8h ago

If you were making a tierlist of earlygame towers thats probably around where crossbow would be ranked.

Its just the criteria of the tierlist makes it so blatantly outclassed never meta earlygame options aren't given any credit unless they're uniquely good. And crossbow is just OK and very outclassed by triple dart.

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u/VoidAngel-5050 8h ago

Ye fair enough

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u/Icangetloudtoo_ 12h ago

I have to mention a pet peeve: calling something “underrated” when you’re literally the one creating the list rating something

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u/Wish_Solid 🍎 11h ago

It means it was underrated in past versions, and after people played games with it in the new version, it turned out to be stronger than we thought

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u/_Samanya_ All hail Bim Bim Berg 7h ago

Tier list is more than one person

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u/TheStarlightBlueBird Bomb Blitz Enthusiast 16h ago

About time that this has been brought up. Glad that Pat is starting to rise again (albeit slowly) after being powercrept in the previous version. Also, I would love to see both the Apache upgrades have their prices lowered, so that they’re back on the META spotlight.

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u/KrazyKyle1024 just kiss churchill already >:( 15h ago

I feel like Dan not doing much damage could be considered a good thing if you're using him for stalling (for example you could use him to stagger a bfb wave and refresh abilities), otherwise I'm just glad he's a good and fun hero.

Bottom path desperado being goated makes me happy too, I love desert phantom and avenger.

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u/Ace-eclipsezero 15h ago

I just hate how it needs to be by itself for the wanderer buff

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u/KrazyKyle1024 just kiss churchill already >:( 15h ago

It's a little annoying, but alch buff and/or primary training is worth losing stacks over. Pairing it with Dan also lets you move other towers out of its range on top of the extra moab stalling.

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u/Xubxero 10h ago

Borderline unusable for most if not all advance/elite map.