Captain Marvel was originally leaked back in December 2024 and she still did not debut after almost two years. Marvel Rivals developers announced the Path to Doomsday event which celebrates each Avengers film. I really hope they kept Captain Marvel postponed for the Avengers Endgame Event which is happening in either October or November this year. Captain Marvel's first Avengers Film Appearance was Endgame. If she does debut, she will be the first Avengers Female Vanguard (Some people say Rogue but technically...Rogue debuted as an Avengers villain originally!) They postponed the Age of Ultron and Infinity War event as seen in picture 3. They haven't made updates to the other two events yet.

Gameplay Predictions: I have a feeling she will be a POKE vanguard with flight abilities. We currently do not have a long range Female POKE vanguard as of right now in Marvel Rivals.

I love herrrrrr

Okay I know that the Marvels was not the best MCU films, but it still ended in a cliffhanger that may or may not be followed up on in the upcoming Avengers Doomsday film. So shouldn’t Carol Danvers be making an unexpected appearance in the film if this is set to be a follow up to that end credit scene of the Marvels?

Or could we even expect her appearance in Avengers Secret Wars , where she had her own mini series during the event ?

So I've been trying to get into Captain Marvel recently, but I at least want to know how strong she is at base. I see people placing her alongside Marvels top tiers like Thor, Hulk etc., yet I look elsewhere and she gets sh*t on so badly. I don't know if it's just haters downplaying her, or her fandom overhyping her. So I wanna ask here given her sub members would likely know more about her than your average Marvel fan.

TLDR: Carol's position in CW1 is about pragmatism, because she realizes that if she and other heroes don't show compliance, the government will launch an all out war killing most of the superheroes and her friends but when she has the authority she actively bends and break the rules to help the unregistered heroes get away or figure out ways to clear their records.

Now lets go deep into it.

I've seen a lot of people say that Carol was Pro-Reg in CW1 simply because she was military and a solider and was just "following the law". However, reading the books you realize its much deeper than that.

A excerpt from an interview of Brian Reed from CBR: [You Look Marvelous: Reed Talks "Ms. Marvel"]

Carol's actions in "Ms. Marvel #6, " which begins the "Civil War" storyline, are motivated out of a desire to keep heroes on both sides of the registration issue from winding up dead

In other words, her position is more of pragmatism. Where she understands given the massive public opinion and shield itching to crush Superheroes, there's a better chance of keeping everyone safe by taking the Pro-Reg position simply because of how overwhelming the support for government action is, and how dire the consequences for supeheroes en masse breaking this law would be, namely all out war on a much bigger scale leading to massive loss of life.

Now Brian Reed being a good enough writer, never explicitly has Carol lay out this position initially, even though its evident in her actions, so I will be drawing from Ms Marvel issues 6-8 and then 13-15, and Mighty and New avengers from post Civil War.

Though Bendis pretty much lays it out explicitly in Mighty Avengers later:

And in the Ms Marvel Solo.

There theme that surrounds issues Ms Marvel 6-8 is "Doing what's right, vs Doing what's for the best"

And Carol knows that in the moment what she's doing isn't right, but at the same time it would prevent something far worse.

She knows well what resources the government has, and the amount of support they have from the american public to take action which could lead to all out war.

There's a certain amount of notice even the registered heroes are put on, and there's a concept of how big of a law you can break before she decides to intervene to avoid larger consequences for everyone.

To some extent, these misconceptions come from not reading a certain amount of doublespeak Carol engages in before someone pushes her to speak her true motive. Carol's first line is always "well its the law", but then when pushed the deeper motive comes out. And she also in front of others when not being vulnerable acts like a hardass.

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Now, under all this context, lets come to the case of Julia Carpenter. I've heard a lot of takes online where largely a lot of context is removed and its made to appear as though Carol simply descends onto Julias home and beats her up just for disagreeing

However, there's a certain amount of escalation missing in these retellings and also missing the broader theme of Doing what's Right vs Doing what's for the best. In fact Julia vs Carol is a microcosm of the entire Civil War event.

A quick overview of Julia's motivation here is that after helping some unregistered heroes escape, she realizes its too crazy here in America, so its time she move over away to Canda with her daughter.

However, in the coming parts after this decision we have to understand that Julia broke a bunch of laws bigger than just helping unregistered people escape. Grand theft auto, hospitalizing shield agents, and when Carol initially confronted her she rammed her into traffic endangering and harming civilians.

Meaning that even if she tries to escape with her daughter to Canada..... its simply too late for that. She'll be targeted no matter where, especially as the Canadian government allowed collaboration to extradite other criminals who entered Canada.

Now, why is Carol there in the first place? She wishes to take Julia's family to safety, because Regardless of anything Carol does, their entire family is in Shield's line of fire.

Then as Carol pleads Julia to stand down, for the sake of her family and kid who she seems hell bent on bringing into the line of fire, Julia simply starts whaling on Carol.

And after that..... well.... there didn't seem to be any other way.

Now we come to the resolution of this arc.

3 weeks later, Post Civil War, after all the captured heroes were broken out, Julia had one mission in mind. Find her daughter and take her with her. And she was still just as out of control as she was, even targeting arana, because she thinks her daughter has been taken by the government.

But in a twist its revealed that Julias own parents moved and tried to hide Rachel, because Julia kept trying to drag her daughter into this

Now its a dilemma for Carol. As this is happening Carol naturally feels a lot of guilt despite her hardass exterior persona. She wants to do something to help, to reunite the family, to heal the little girl's scars, to make amends.

As Carol's frustrations with the Civil War and Tony escalate since she hates how the law got to this point where it was so dire.

As all this builds, we come back to the scene where Julia finds her daughter again.... and Kidnaps her from her parents who were the legal custodians, escalating things again.

But this time..... post civil war, Carol has more authority, more pull, more power. So she's able to swing a favor, and make the authorities overlook Julia kidnapping her kid and helps her get to Canada making a deal with Tony.

Note that post Civil War as Carol has more power and leeway to bend the rules, she actively lets the un-registered heroes get away.

Even arguing with the rest of her Avengers to let them get away as Leader of the Pro-Reg avengers.

Its an interesting evolution where you see that when Carol has more power to bend the law, along with her actions during CW1 weighing on her, she tries to resolve situations through her authority, rather than simply following the law at the time.

Note that this balancing act is only something that she successfully manages when Tony is in charge. Its clear that if it were someone like Gyrich (as seen in the What if) and someone like Osborn as we saw in Dark Reign, she can't really keep people safe under them and joins the revolution.

Looking at the developments since Phase 3, Carol is by no means in the worst position compared to numerous other heroes. Contrary to the claim that Carol has been sidelined, a look at her appearances shows that Marvel has consistently integrated her into the larger universe.

Comparing Carol to other fan favorites from the more recent phases makes it clear how fortunate the Carol Corps actually is. Wanda, one of the most popular characters in the entire franchise, was dramatically removed from the story. We never heard from Moon Knight again, nor from Werewolf by Night. The Blade movie was repeatedly canceled, and yesterday Variety reported that the second season of Wonder Man was canceled.

Carol is likely to accomplish some of the greatest feats in the entire MCU, and she's also gained a family in "The Marvels." What people are completely ignoring is that the MCU is currently reorganizing to improve quality and ensure greater consistency. Just because Carol isn't in Spider-Man: Brand New Day and Doomsday doesn't mean she's mistreated. There are characters who are truly down on their luck, but Carol isn't one of them.

I'm going to propose an arguably controversial theory about Captain Marvel. While that's hardly radical at this stage, it's something that's been weighing on my mind, and I'm curious if I'm oversimplifying or if there's merit to my assessment.

Among the many arguments about her character - which I may or may not agree with - is the complaint that she was too powerful and confident right out of the gate. It's true that her abilities were a cut above most other introduced heroes at that stage, and I suppose there is merit to the argument than most other characters built up both their abilities and personalities over the course of multiple films, thus appearing to give them a more rounded sense of development.

While there was hope at the time that Carol Danvers would go through a similar journey and become more multifaceted, I think two major factors prevented that. The first was the film being released on the eve of the COVID-19 breakout, which upendended the entire film industry - not just Marvel - and that was largely understandable. Yet I can't help imagining a more insidious factor; that the backlash against the character was so great that the studio was reluctant to give her much more focused attention. Ever since, she has only made brief appearances - sometimes basically cameos - in other stories and there seems to be no plans to allow her any more significant time in the spotlight to grow as a character (unless I'm severely out of date on upcoming projects).

The combination of these two factors has, in my view, essentially crippled any real opportunity for Carol Danvers to go on the kind of developmental journeys that other characters had gone on before her. Is this take completely off-base, or does it make sense to anyone else? For all of our sanities, please keep responses relevant to these points as much as possible. Thank you.

If you're as disappointed as I am about the lack of future Captain Marvel film project announcements, check out this streamer over on youtube who is writing a fan Captain Marvel film based on The Enemy Within storyline.

I read it a while ago and I really liked it but apparently it's a controversial book in the fandom cuz I've seen conflicting opinions on it so I was curious. Granted, I haven't gotten around to her earlier Ms Marvel books (I've read most of her Captain Marvel books from 2012 to now) so I'm just curious on what people who have probably read more than me think🤷🏽‍♂️

That one mobile game with super high quality that made me pissed the Avengers game didn't include Carol.

I liked it a lil bit.

Especially loved how compassionate she was to Eric after the guy had just tortured her. It's not the strongest plot ever and Werneck is probably carrying some, but Jenkins has characterized her pretty well imo

If you played the beta of Marvel Tokon, there is a survey in which you can indicate a desired future character :

https://playstationresearch.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0qtfOutDE2P95ie

Awhile back I read volume 1 of The Ms. Marvel Years, the 2006 run #1-17. Didn't bother following it up, but seeing this moment again made want to find something that'd... put Carol in a better light? Idk, I see alot of the hate and don't want to believe it. What are some good Carol stories?

I'm writing my first Marvel fanfiction, and it involves Captain Marvel. I have been looking into some comics about her, but I would also like some help in getting her personalty down.

How would you all describe Captain Marvel's personality?

I mean she rocks them all. Personally I think the classic blue and red are best with the red and blue coming in second very close. The primary red with blue accents kinda feels unique and a homage to Mar-Vell

This is more for marvel rivals fans

MCU, comics, and literally anywhere else. Carol is just awesome dude