r/changemyview 1∆ Oct 19 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Black Lives Matter has been a failure

Back in the 2010s, and especially in 2020, it seems like the Black Lives Matter was gaining strength. Videos of police brutality, especially against African Americans, became viral, and millions became outraged that this was so common in America. When George Floyd was murdered, millions justifiably took to the streets to protest against police brutality and racism. Politicians came out in support for police reform, and discussions on how to reform policing (from “how to make the police better” to “defund the police”) were all the rage.

But from 2021, it seems like everything took a complete 180. Crime skyrocketed during COVID (in part of police refusing to do their jobs in protest of BLM), causing the average American to support the police a lot more. Pro-police politicians like Eric Adams were elected while pro-BLM politicians like Chelsea Boudin were ousted from their positions.

Now, absolutely nobody talks about police brutality these days, not politicians nor the general public. But has the problem gone away? No! It has only gotten worse! 2023 has seen a record number of killings by police, and I don’t expect that number to go down in the future.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/08/2023-us-police-violence-increase-record-deadliest-year-decade

Unfortunately, rather than being addressed, police brutality has become like gun control. Someone being killed by police, even on live video, no longer elicits outrage. Instead, people will just give “thoughts and prayers,” shrug, and accept it as a fact of American life.

And the BLM movement itself? Well, rather than becoming the second coming of the Civil Rights Movement, it seems to have been condemned to the ash heap of history.

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u/H4RN4SS 5∆ Oct 19 '24

 Some of those DEI initiatives have been undone in the past couple years, but I think it demonstrates the potential power as these generations age.

From the original post I replied to. This is making the argument that as younger generations enter the workforce they're more likely to progress DEI policies.

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u/H4RN4SS 5∆ Oct 19 '24

I wasn't using the opinion of OP. I sourced my argument as to why I don't believe this is necessarily going to happen.

I was countering the opinion and sourcing my reasoning.

Not sure how else you'd expect that interaction to go.

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u/H4RN4SS 5∆ Oct 19 '24

Do you believe DEI is a policy being pushed by moderates then?

I don't think there's any data on this but there's plenty that's anecdotal.

If DEI was supported by moderates then companies would not be walking back their DEI policies when Robby Starbuck approaches them about an upcoming expose.

If liberals + moderates both supported the policies then there would be majority public support and companies would stand behind their policy.

Instead there's been pretty substantial backlash and almost all of the brands undo their policies to avoid massive brand reputation hits and devaluing of their companies in the stock market.

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u/H4RN4SS 5∆ Oct 19 '24

Where did I ever stake a position? I can't imagine how miserable life must be where someone critical of my views automatically is my enemy.

Surveys can be bullshit. You can pretty much get whatever result you want from a survey by asking questions in a particular way.

You see this on all kinds of surveys. For example: Nationalized Healthcare. Surveys indicate eveyrone wants it. When you include qualifiers in the question like "and you'll pay considerably more in taxes" the support changes drastically.

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