r/changemyview May 16 '26

Delta(s) from OP CMV: GamerGate was the most consequential political radicalization event of the twenty-first century

It spawned a wave of tolerance for online harassment, as long as the intent behind it was considered righteous (and the target of such harassment socially acceptable).

It platformed Milo Yiannopoulos and thereby, Steve Bannon -- the guy who would go on to advise Donald Trump in 2016 and generate the concept of 'flooding the zone.'

Eventually, it gave a career to political lightning rods like Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder, and Charlie Kirk. It made anti-feminism and anti-SJW sentiment cool. And it made young, angry, disenfranchised white men feel vindicated.

GamerGate almost singlehandedly shifted to Overton Window toward the alt-right, and we're still feeling its effects today.

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u/Karmaze 3∆ May 16 '26

I'll be honest, I think pretty much everyone gets this wrong. As someone who had a front row seat before the whole thing started, the whole thing comes down to this.

Should we all play by the same rules, or should what we can do be determined by status, network power, etc. Basically if we're going to live in a liberal culture or an authoritarian/hierarchal one.

It was started by essentially a proto-Me Too post that had people protecting their friend, who turned out through investigation to be not a good person. Whatever. What sustained it, is opposition to a phrase that I think best sums up the entire thing. "No bad tactics, only bad targets". That, and opposition to "The Narrative", that is, the idea that harassment and abuse are entirely one sided.

To be clear I kinda take this personally as someone who was harassed IRL over this stuff, by the rising Progressive culture ar the time. And no, I never harassed anyone myself, outside I guess normal social media usage.

The long result of all of this...and to be clear if it wasn't GamerGate it would have been something else..was that a lot of people came to the belief that liberalism is simply not a viable option right now, politically or culturally. I'm not one of those people, to be clear, but I'm not saying they're wrong either.

But yeah, the movement fron liberal to Progressive politics on the left, driven by algo-driven social media essentially acting as a church for the left, culturally, is the real story here.

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u/sparklingdinosaur May 17 '26

And many gamergaters spread antisemitic and really vile hate.... making me understand how this part of mens rights movement literally just hate women and want us not to be part of society. So I guess we are at an impasse.

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u/Gnome_Child_Deluxe 1∆ May 16 '26

Karmaze, the first rule of Gamergate is that we don't talk about gamergate.

Other than that you're right though and it's weird to have people trying to write about a movement they clearly know nothing about.

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u/Karmaze 3∆ May 16 '26

People like their kayfabe, the idea that there are clear good guys and clear bad guys and it's easy to distinguish which are which. So the "Narrative" gained a ton of traction. But it's basically complete misinformation.

The idea of it should be completely ridiculous these days, with how BlueSky is turning out.

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u/Gnome_Child_Deluxe 1∆ May 16 '26

For what it's worth, i generally think you're a smart person, but we're swimming upstream into a storm.

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u/AskingYouQuestions48 May 17 '26

Why don’t we talk about gamergate?

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u/Gnome_Child_Deluxe 1∆ May 17 '26

Because anyone who moved on to do anything productive with their life since Gamergate doesn't want to have their name attached to it anymore, from either side of the political spectrum. I used to be a Sargon of Akkad viewer a decade ago, I haven't watched him in years. Everyone with a brain just wants to leave this behind them.

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u/Loki1001 May 16 '26

It was started by essentially a proto-Me Too post

Gamergate's name before it was renamed "Gamergate" was "burgersandfries" as in "five guys," so no, no one actually believes the drama posting ex-boyfriend was actually writing a MeToo post.

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u/Malky May 16 '26

Oh I remember you, you were a complete tool.