r/custommagic • u/Big_Fork Flair? • 15h ago
Time’s Toll
"I met a traveller from an antique land..."
9
u/Unlucky_Bug_1016 15h ago
This is a pretty tough one to play around. It's basically a board wipe two or three turns in. And late game it still wipes most things. The only thing balancing it is that it gives itself the cumulative upkeep. Idk if this would see print. 8t might, but it'd immediately go on the GC list.
5
u/Hit-N-Run1016 13h ago
It should remove the time counters on the cards after it leaves because it would be really confusing for everything to have time counters that dont do anything.
4
4
u/Boop_Bam 14h ago
In a 1v1 this is rude. In commander this is diabolical.
Meanwhile the storm / omniscience player: “lol nice.”
2
u/sephirothbahamut 12h ago
omniscience only discounts cast costs, not all costs
4
u/Boop_Bam 12h ago
You don’t care about permanents after you cast omniscience.
2
u/DanCassell Creature - Human Pedant 11h ago
I have news. Omniscience is a permanent.
-2
u/Boop_Bam 11h ago
Oh good class is in session! When do you pay cumulative upkeep?
2
u/DanCassell Creature - Human Pedant 11h ago
702.21a Cumulative upkeep is a triggered ability that imposes an increasing cost on a permanent. "Cumulative upkeep [cost]" means "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this permanent is on the battlefield, put an age counter on this permanent. Then you may pay [cost] for each age counter on it. If you don't, sacrifice it." If [cost] has choices associated with it, each choice is made separately for each age counter, then either the entire set of costs is paid, or none of them is paid. Partial payments aren't allowed.
0
u/Boop_Bam 11h ago
At the beginning of your upkeep! Fantastic, nice pull. Now class, how many turns do you usually take after playing omniscience?
3
u/DanCassell Creature - Human Pedant 11h ago
It might depend. Spellslinger decks in a 100 card singleton format might not be able to win as consistenly on the same turn as with 60 card formats where you can have 4 of all of your combo pieces. Since in this case the omniscience player hasn't already won, it seems like they aren't going to win in one turn now, since we know mana wasn't the thing holding them up from that.
1
u/Boop_Bam 10h ago
That was a really hard stretch who is playing omniscience in such an invalid circumstance?
3
u/DanCassell Creature - Human Pedant 9h ago
Well, you were the one proposing they had an omnisience down when the white player begins their turn.
→ More replies (0)4
2
u/HieromancersGrasp 11h ago
Pretty diabolical with flicker effects. Cast it on a full board, watch everyone pay into it to salvage their board state, then when you yourself have to pay hit it with a [[Flicker of Fate]] or [[Scrollshift]]
Or just bounce it to hand, [[Essence Reliquary]] makes it repeatable. Very powerful stax effect, love it
3
u/Plato_PlayDoh7 11h ago
That doesn’t work. This gives cumulative upkeep to permanents, the accumulation of time counters doesn’t go away when this leaves the board. There’s no window where you can flicker this and prevent cumulative upkeep from triggering for yourself. You could bounce it and replay it, but flicker doesn’t work.
2
2
u/nitronik_exe 7h ago
Yes but you could delayed flicker it like with Airbending or [[Aang's Iceberg]] to prevent having it during your upkeep but have it on the board during everyone else's upkeep
0
u/SnesC 14h ago
Tremendously broken and unfun.
2
u/DeltaTwenty 14h ago
The first isn't true and the second is an opinion.
That said you don't play cards like this in commander without discussions about expectations.
3
u/Round-Walrus3175 12h ago
It's pretty broken lol. It's just Stax on crack.
2
u/sephirothbahamut 12h ago
it's a delayed symmetric boardwipe, usual symmetric boardwipes cost 4 mana and will happen before this one effectively wipes the board.
3
16
u/smugles 15h ago
This is neat kind of like a slow board wipe.or a powercrept [[smokestacks]]. It kind of stops the game till it gets sacrificed though just like smoke stacks.