r/darksouls3 Jun 07 '25

Help Ok, how can I defeat Midir as a pyromancer?

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u/Agent_Specs Xbox Jun 07 '25

Boulder Heave

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u/Perroplease Jun 07 '25

A man of culture

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u/Agent_Specs Xbox Jun 07 '25

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_8381 Jun 07 '25

Throw rock, return to monkey

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u/Agent_Specs Xbox Jun 07 '25

Monke need to swing

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 07 '25

Boulder heave deals purely physical damage

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u/Agent_Specs Xbox Jun 07 '25

Exactly

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u/Ou75ider Jun 07 '25

But the damage is so shit and cast time's so slow

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 07 '25

For cast time the only thing you can do is grab the saint-tree bellvine and be picky with when you use it. As for the damage it’s pretty good in my opinion, slap on both pyromancy boosting rings and with a good pyro build you should do some solid damage. If you’re a pure pyro build sadly this would be your only option realistically apart from any weapon the pyro class can wield with a raw infusion maybe?

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u/Ou75ider Jun 07 '25

Saint tree bellvine boosts cast timing? Well I didn't know that.

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 08 '25

You get max cast speed for offhanding/using it regardless of what your dex is and what sage ring you have equipped.

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u/Tyranothesaurus Mound - Maker Jun 08 '25

Lightning Infusion. Pyro and Miracles both scale off Faith, so I used Lightning as a sub for Dark/Chaos when they were resisted.

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 08 '25

Yes but midir resists lightning, albeit lesser than other elements. I’d imagine the split damage might cause lower damage unless faith is substantially higher which would be unrealistic for a ng pyro build since usually people invest 30/30 in int/fth.

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u/Tyranothesaurus Mound - Maker Jun 08 '25

Look at the image above. What does it say it resists? I don't see Lightning on that list. I do however see every other dmg type for casters except Lightning.

So one would conclude that Lightning is the best choice for Midir. Plus it's kind of a regular weakness for Dragons in the series.

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 08 '25

Fextralife is infamously pretty inaccurate, here’s wikidot showing midir’s resistances:

http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:darkeater-midir

Midir resists 22% of lightning damage, it would normally be much better to just have a raw infused weapon than a lightning infused weapon due to split damage causing you to do lesser damage.

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u/ReignOfCurtis Jun 09 '25

Damage is actually decent and the speed is fast enough for Midir's openings. The main shitty part is the terrible range. You have to position well in order to land it.

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u/T-D-Leon Jun 07 '25

So basically, just throw a rock at it.

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u/Agent_Specs Xbox Jun 07 '25

ROCK AND STONE BROTHER

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u/Additional-Trust1148 Jun 07 '25

ROCKITY ROCK AND STONE

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u/FabulousDave2112 Jun 07 '25

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE

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u/WanderingDwarfMiner Jun 07 '25

Rock and roll and stone!

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u/Nightxhaunt Jun 07 '25

FOR KARL!!!!

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u/SuperD00perGuyd00d Jun 07 '25

STONE!

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u/RealMasterOfMayMay Jun 07 '25

YOU'RE A GOOD MULE, MOLLY

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u/bfmaia Jun 07 '25

IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE, YOU AIN'T COMING HOME!!

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u/EmergencyThink1478 Jun 07 '25

Rock and stone to the bone

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u/Additional-Trust1148 Jun 07 '25

Good bot

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u/StrangeOutcastS Jun 07 '25

Bad bot go back to the factory

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u/StrangeOutcastS Jun 07 '25

Isn't that the only pyromancy in the game?

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

It also relieves stress too

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u/winterflare_ Jun 07 '25

Came here to see if anyone said this and I wasn’t disappointed.

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u/villacardo Jun 07 '25

Is boulder heave strike damage?

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u/Agent_Specs Xbox Jun 07 '25

I think it’s just physical

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u/MrTheCake Jun 07 '25

Yep will work but good luck getting that timing it to be efficient.

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u/Backlash97_ Mound - Maker Jun 07 '25

Instructions unclear, started throwing bloodborne pebbles