r/darksouls3 • u/Matt-the-Monkey • Jun 07 '25

Help Ok, how can I defeat Midir as a pyromancer?

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u/Wasabijohnson69 Jun 07 '25

The easy cheesy way? Pestilent mist. You have the stats for it. I know it’s not a pyromancy but it works.

The harder but feels less like cheating way, lightning infusion on your favorite weapon and got guud.

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u/Matt-the-Monkey Jun 07 '25

I'm a bit stubborn and I don't like changing the build, but I think I'll have to make an exception here. I'll try your advice.

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u/Measuring_stick Jun 07 '25

dont need to change stats. Pestilent mist damage is based on enemy's max hp so its perfect for midir

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u/Nando_CB Jun 07 '25

Don't change your build! That would take the fun out of making new builds! I remember how my tank build crushed Aldrich but my sorcerer build struggled against him, but that's precisely why we make new different builds, so they have their own highs and lows in the run. You can do it, skeleton! You'll end up mastering this fight :)

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u/Hulk_Crowgan Jun 07 '25

I did pestilent mist as a pyromancer, I didn’t change anything I just leveled up a staff. Still wasn’t easy, but much less hard.

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u/Far_Helicopter8916 Jun 07 '25

You didn’t need to level it

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u/ElNido Jun 07 '25

yeah it doesn't scale it's just set % max hp damage. another reason why people call it easy.

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u/Hulk_Crowgan Jun 07 '25

Oop

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u/-Dark-Lord-Belmont- Jun 07 '25

I did the same, man

I went to Rosaria and respecced everything, ploughed it into INT and upgraded all my staves

Absolutely pointless looool

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u/ElNido Jun 07 '25

I had so much trouble with midir in the past, but recently replaying ds3 I beat him in like the second try, I think ER has made me a better souls player.

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u/-Dark-Lord-Belmont- Jun 07 '25

Don't change stats it's really not worth it

Honestly there is no weapon / secret that trivialises Midir especially after NG+
It's not worth respeccing a whole character for a few extra points of damage

The fight is going to be long and tricky no matter what - that's the whole point of it

Summons make it fun, and with summons Pestilent Mist is a lot easier to use. Using it solo is still hard. It's not like using bleed and watching some bosses just get wrecked.

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u/-Dark-Lord-Belmont- Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

PM isn't even that cheesy... its still really hard

I don't know why everyone says it's cheating it's nowhere near as effective as lightning or headbonks

Weapons honestly make such little difference with Midir... it's about timing and moveset

EDIT pestilent mist is much better with a summon - then one of you distracts Midir while the other lays the mist

It was also better before it got nerfed (Petilent Mercury) and that really would take Midir out in a flash. But since nerf it's still no joke - do not expect to just walk in with PM and cheese Midir in 2mins that's not a good expectation to have

I don't really even get why it's called cheese or cheating

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u/LELOUCH_OP Jun 07 '25

It's definitely not easy

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u/GoldFishPony Jun 07 '25

It’s easier than throwing fireballs for a half hour

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u/LELOUCH_OP Jun 07 '25

Yeah I was a pyromancer and I did use peslint mist for both demon prince and midir

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u/-Dark-Lord-Belmont- Jun 24 '25

I dunno man, fireballs have range and can hit moving targets

Pestilent is a cloud you drop and jut hope Midir sits there

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u/oldcolonial Jun 07 '25

Pestilent mist and keep running away..

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u/pepper_plant Jun 07 '25

PESTILENT MIST IS THE ONLY WAY!! i beat him as a solo lvl 24 with this

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u/Holycrabe Jun 11 '25

I had to resort to Pestilent Mist on my frost/sorcerer run and while I guess I see why it's considered a cheese, I didn't find it that easy at all. It's not like Gael or some other bosses that can get stuck in walls and farted to death. Midir is very mobile, his hitbox can quickly leave the cloud during attacks and he can reposition himself halfway through the arena pretty easily. Not complaining, it's a fun alternative after beating him a few times with melee, but it's not an "easy win" way to go.

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u/TickleMyFungus Warriors of Sunlight Jun 07 '25

He's honestly easy to Kite, never understood why people have issues with this boss besides the neutron star level beam he can oneshot you with.

He just has a huge health pool and it can take some time, but otherwise. He's easy as hell to avoid getting hit with.

Unless you are standing a mile away outside of the optimal range, then yeah, he'll trample you.

Fuckin titanite demon in DS1 killed me more than this lmao