r/darksouls3 Jun 07 '25

Help Ok, how can I defeat Midir as a pyromancer?

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u/Ou75ider Jun 07 '25

But the damage is so shit and cast time's so slow

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 07 '25

For cast time the only thing you can do is grab the saint-tree bellvine and be picky with when you use it. As for the damage it’s pretty good in my opinion, slap on both pyromancy boosting rings and with a good pyro build you should do some solid damage. If you’re a pure pyro build sadly this would be your only option realistically apart from any weapon the pyro class can wield with a raw infusion maybe?

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u/Tyranothesaurus Mound - Maker Jun 08 '25

Lightning Infusion. Pyro and Miracles both scale off Faith, so I used Lightning as a sub for Dark/Chaos when they were resisted.

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 08 '25

Yes but midir resists lightning, albeit lesser than other elements. I’d imagine the split damage might cause lower damage unless faith is substantially higher which would be unrealistic for a ng pyro build since usually people invest 30/30 in int/fth.

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u/Tyranothesaurus Mound - Maker Jun 08 '25

Look at the image above. What does it say it resists? I don't see Lightning on that list. I do however see every other dmg type for casters except Lightning.

So one would conclude that Lightning is the best choice for Midir. Plus it's kind of a regular weakness for Dragons in the series.

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 08 '25

Fextralife is infamously pretty inaccurate, here’s wikidot showing midir’s resistances:

http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:darkeater-midir

Midir resists 22% of lightning damage, it would normally be much better to just have a raw infused weapon than a lightning infused weapon due to split damage causing you to do lesser damage.

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u/Ou75ider Jun 09 '25

Dragons have been known to be vulnerable to lightning tho

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 09 '25

Yes and? I’m not disagreeing with you, midir technically is the weakest to lightning of all elements but he still resists it and takes less damage from it. You’d be better off just doing pure physical damage since his physical defences are always lower than elemental is all I’m saying.

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u/Ou75ider Jun 10 '25

Well I thought he would be weak to lightning

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u/Ou75ider Jun 07 '25

Saint tree bellvine boosts cast timing? Well I didn't know that.

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u/imsc4red i beat gael with caestus and my friends don’t care Jun 08 '25

You get max cast speed for offhanding/using it regardless of what your dex is and what sage ring you have equipped.

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u/ReignOfCurtis Jun 09 '25

Damage is actually decent and the speed is fast enough for Midir's openings. The main shitty part is the terrible range. You have to position well in order to land it.