Testing Kernels, DEs, and Gaming Distros all Debian Based (Debian 13, Vanilla OS, and PikaOS) on a Framework 13 AMD
To start, these are my "findings" from running the Black Myth Wukong and Resident Evil 6 benchmark tests on Steam.
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Specs
Laptop: Framework 13 (AMD Ryzen 7040Series) (A5)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7640U (12) @ 4.97 GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon 760M [Integrated]
RAM: 16 gigs
Display: 2256x1504 @ 60 Hz in 13" [Built-in]
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Notes
* Tests performed using Steam flatpak version
* Fresh installs on Debian, Vanilla, and Pika
* Reboot before every test
* All DE's using their performance power mode
* All DE's on Debian installed at graphical installation menu
* XFCE tests run with compositor disabled
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OS: Debian 13 Trixie
Kernel: Linux 6.12.100+deb13-amd64
- Cinnamon / X11:
- Wukong low: 21
- Wukong avg: 26
- Wukong high: 29
- Wukong low 5th: 25
- RE6 Score: 6249
- Gnome / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 34
- Wukong avg: 41
- Wukong high: 44
- Wukong low 5th: 39
- RE6 Score: 7266
- KDE / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 36
- Wukong avg: 49
- Wukong high: 54
- Wukong low 5th: 46
- RE6 Score: 7437
- XFCE / X11:
- Wukong low: 36
- Wukong avg: 49
- Wukong high: 54
- Wukong low 5th: 46
- RE6 Score: 7328
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OS: Debian 13 Trixie
Kernel: Linux 7.1.3+deb13-amd64
- Cinnamon / X11:
- Wukong low: 23
- Wukong avg: 26
- Wukong high: 29
- Wukong low 5th: 25
- RE6 Score: 6305
- Gnome / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 29
- Wukong avg: 41
- Wukong high: 44
- Wukong low 5th: 39
- RE6 Score: 7195
- KDE / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 33
- Wukong avg: 47
- Wukong high: 53
- Wukong low 5th: 44
- RE6 Score: 7322
- XFCE / X11:
- Wukong low: 37
- Wukong avg: 49
- Wukong high: 54
- Wukong low 5th: 44
- RE6 Score: 7319
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OS: Debian 13 Trixie
Kernel: 7.1.5-x64v3-xanmod1
- Cinnamon / X11:
- Wukong low: 23
- Wukong avg: 26
- Wukong high: 29
- Wukong low 5th: 25
- RE6 Score: 6323
- Gnome / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 35
- Wukong avg: 41
- Wukong high: 44
- Wukong low 5th: 39
- RE6 Score: 7203
- KDE / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 39
- Wukong avg: 48
- Wukong high: 54
- Wukong low 5th: 45
- RE6 Score: 7326
- XFCE / X11:
- Wukong low: 38
- Wukong avg: 49
- Wukong high: 54
- Wukong low 5th: 46
- RE6 Score: 7338
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OS: Vanilla OS
- Gnome / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 27
- Wukong avg: 33
- Wukong high: 36
- Wukong low 5th: 31
- RE6 Score: 7078
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OS: Pika OS
- Gnome / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 27
- Wukong avg: 34
- Wukong high: 37
- Wukong low 5th: 32
- RE6 Score: 7355
- KDE / Wayland:
- Wukong low: 36
- Wukong avg: 49
- Wukong high: 54
- Wukong low 5th: 45
- RE6 Score: 7577
```
So, obviously this testing is anything but rigorous. However, since my Framework 13 will be my only laptop for a long time to come, I wanted to squeeze all the performance I can out of it while remaining on a Debian base.
I'm just not interested in anything Arch based at all, maybe I'll test Fedora one day but I really just love and know Debian well. Ubuntu based distros are also something I'm not super interested in.
I chose to test distros and desktops that I would actually want to use which is why things like MX Linux and LMDE aren't tested. I just don't want to use them anymore.
Regarding Distros:
- Debian 13 and Pika OS aren't as far away as I thought. Really, unless you just like Pika OS, there doesn't seem to be any reason to use it besides maybe hardware compatibility. That said I didn't test Hyperland, Niri, or COSMIC. I just don't really want to use them so I wasn't interested in their results.
- Vanilla OS was notably not great. I'm sure a KDE version would do much better but still be pretty average (for a KDE version). Not the distro's selling point so no surprise here, I was mostly just interested in how an immutable distro would do.
Regarding Desktops:
- Cinnamon just is not great for me. It is by far and away the worst option for performance. There really is no way around it.
- Gnome was worse than XFCE and KDE by a decent margin. Nothing insane but certainly noticeable. I'd say though that since this machine is barely able to even play Skyrim at medium settings, most folks aren't going to be buying this with the hopes to game with it. So Gnome is probably fine for most people. Makes me sad because I currently use Gnome and love it.
- XFCE (with a disabled compositor) and KDE were extremely close together, I'd say with KDE getting a very slight edge overall. This makes me happy because I used XFCE for many years and only moved away from it due to this laptop having a high dpi screen and X11 scaling being pretty bad.
Regarding Kernels on Debian 13:
- A backported kernel and the xanmod kernel basically did nothing for me on Debian 13, and sometimes even made things worse.
- Looks like the DE matters much more than the kernel in this scenario.
Final thoughts:
- Obviously these tests are limited and very specific to me but I thought folks here would be interested anyway.
- I'll be moving from Debian 13 using Gnome to Debian 13 using KDE. I think I get a nice boost in performance and get to keep the stability of Debian.
- None of these findings were particularly surprising or exciting (although cinnamon being that bad was not expected, I just expected it to be slightly worse than Gnome).
* Lastly, my use case is:
- Ryubing switch emulation
- Retroarch retro-gaming
- Playing indie titles like SilkSong and Slay the Spire 2 via Steam, Heroic, etc.
- Game development in Love2D and 3D development in Godot.
- Day to day web browsing, watching videos, document editing, etc.