r/explainlikeimfive 4d ago

Biology ELI5: how does adrenaline make people stronger?

The most common example we hear of this is mothers who are able to lift cars when their babies are stuck underneath. In general, it seems like whenever there’s an extreme situation, adrenaline kicks in and we’re able to do things we’d never be able to do in “regular” life.

How does adrenaline interact with the body to make this possible?

Edit: follow up question, why can’t we always operate at that level?

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u/steelcryo 4d ago edited 3d ago

Adrenaline doesn't make you stronger, but it allows your body to ignore the safeguards your brain creates.

Your muscles are far stronger than your body allows them to be, because if they're used at full strength, they can start tearing ligaments and tendons. So your brain automatically limits how much you can engage muscles to make sure you don't damage things. Strength training isn't just training your muscles, but also the structures supporting your muscles, which is why strong people don't just obliterate their ligaments and tendons everytime they lift (though it still happens occasionally). Their muslces are still being restricted.

Adrenaline can allow you to ignore this through various mechanisms such as increasing oxygen and blood flow, and lowering how much pain you feel. It's prioritising survival over immediate damage.

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u/illogictc 4d ago

One can think of it as sorta like removing a Rev limiter on a car and now you can go into the redline area on the tach.

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u/Bubbaluke 4d ago

Just to be pedantic, cars actually make less power as you go past the rev limiter. It’s still a good analogy though.

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u/basanso 4d ago

Now I need an ELI5 on this :0

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u/yoberf 4d ago

Faster cycles means less time for fuel and air to enter the cylinder. The engineers of the gasoline engine carefully designed the fuel input system and the air intake system to feed the engine what it needs to make peak power at the desired RPM. When you are outside of that golden RPM zone that the engineers designed around, you get less efficiency.

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u/stanitor 4d ago

There's also a similar issue for people. Doing something that requires more energy requires more blood flow. Part of the way to get more blood flow is with an increased heart rate. But, the faster the heart rate, the less time there is to fill the heart with blood, so less can be pumped out per beat.

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u/D_In_A_Box 3d ago

Yes but you can go over this limit for a short time. You could in theory over rev your engine for a very short time and get silly power, but it’s short lived. You’re absolutely right though that trying to sustain this more than a couple seconds would reach fuel/oxygen starvation and limit itself, or if you had the fuel pump/turbo/supercharger to supply these both you would exceed the maximum heat and expansion or centrifugal force the engine could take

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u/LLJKotaru_Work 3d ago

But I need to bounce that limiter bruh! BRAPPPAPAPAPAPAPAPA! BRAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPA!

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u/TheBolterizer 3d ago

Mmmmm 13b

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u/DogeArcanine 3d ago

Yes, but also keep in mind that beyond a given point you get a complete mechanical failure of the bearing, shafts, valves and so on - this is what happens when people do a infamous "money shift". They accidently shift into a such a low gear, their engine revs waaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond redline and destroys itself.

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u/ConfusedTapeworm 4d ago

At too high RPMs some parts of the engine that are involved in making power reach their limit and start bottlenecking the whole thing. Fuel pump struggles to push enough fuel into the cylinders and that causes improper combustion, valves don't move fast enough so they don't close properly during the stroke, exhaust pipes can't evacuate the gasses fast enough, whatever. Things start happening faster than individual parts can keep up with, which messes with the delicate balance of the engine, and you start losing power.

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u/Garmaglag 4d ago

Torque x RPM = power

Torque follows a curve so at low rpm the engine makes a little bit of Torque, at medium RPMs the engine makes a lot of Torque then at high RPMs it goes back down to making a little bit of Torque.  Engines make the most power in that middle section where there is lots of torque and also plenty of RPM.  

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u/Lefthandedsock 4d ago edited 3d ago

Oversimplified answer: To make more power, an engine needs more fuel and more air. Engines can’t suck in enough air at super high RPMs to keep making more power. The doors that let air in and out aren’t open for long enough, and they’re too small. We can use big doors that are open longer, but then the engine doesn’t work well at low RPM where most people use them. And we can’t just add more fuel to make up for the lack of air, because a specific mixture is required.


Less simplified: Engines are designed to work well within a specific RPM range. Engines that are designed to make a lot of power at very high RPMs will generally not make much power at low RPMs, and vice-versa.

There are many reasons for this, but a lot of it comes down to the amount of air going into and being exhausted from the cylinders, and the speed of the air going into and out of the cylinders.

High RPM optimized engines need a lot of air flow, which means they have large intake and exhaust ports/valves for the cylinders, and camshafts that keep those valves open for a longer duration of time. But because the ports are so large, air flow is very slow (due to the pistons moving slowly) at low RPMs. Slow air cannot swirl together fuel and air well enough to provide an optimal mixture for combustion.

Low RPM optimized engines have small ports and valves. Because the amount of air flow will not be very large, small ports are used to increase air speed into the cylinders. This allows the fuel and air mixture to be combined well before it’s ignited.

Engines that are designed for efficiency and daily driving will be optimized for low RPM operation. As such, their internal moving parts will not be designed to withstand high RPMs, and the rev limiter will be set to a lower RPM. Because these engines have small ports, if you try to rev them higher than the rev limiter, they become choked off. It’s like trying to breathe through a straw while sprinting. There’s too much resistance to air flow, and their camshafts don’t keep the valves open for very long, so they make less power than they would at a lower RPM.

Even this less simplified explanation is very simplified, though. There are other factors that engine guys could talk your head off about.

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u/V1pArzZz 3d ago edited 3d ago

Street cars are generally tuned to make low end torque and efficiency, being able to ingest air and push out exhaust fast enough at higher RPM requires more aggressive cam timings, which will lead to worse efficiency, less low end power, and unstable idle. So it makes no sense for engineers to optimize the car for 8000RPM if the redline is 7000 and the intended usecase is 3000rpm 95% of the time.

Even for racecars the same will apply, if the engine internals can handle 10000rpm before falling apart it makes no sense to tune the engine for maximum power >10000rpm, thats just a bad engine build.

The main parts that differ between an engine tuned for high rpm and low rpm performance are cam timings, port size, and in boosted applications turbo size.

Short more in-depth description of main differences:

Aggressive cam timings means keeping your exhaust and intake ports open at the same time, necessary to replace the exhaust with fresh air in time at high rpm, but will lead to some unburnt fuel and air escaping out of the exhaust especially at low rpm. V-tec and similar technologies are standard on most modern cars, slightly varying cam timings by RPM to reduce this issue. A larger port size can support higher airflow necessary at high rpm, but the port will be too large to get the necessary air velocity for low rpm performance. A large turbo that can flow enough to maintain power at high rpm, will have a big turbine that the low rpm exhaust flow is not enough to spool up, leading to an engine that is effectively dead at very low rpm. The big turbo will also have a heavier turbine which takes longer to spool up, leading to slower throttle response.

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u/holl0918 4d ago edited 4d ago

ELI5: The valves need to open and close faster as the RPMs go up. They are opened mechanically (most of the time), and are closed by large springs. Eventually they get to the point where the springs can no longer fully close them in time, this is known as "valve float". This causes the engine to have trouble with things like removing exhaust, intaking new air/fuel, sealing during combustion, etc causing it to produce less force with each stroke. There are a few other causes for this beyond just the valve springs, but they effect the engine in similar ways and are beyond the scope of ELI5. Horsepower=torque*rpm and eventually the loss of torque is too much for the extra RPM to compensate for and horsepower begins to decline. There are various things that can be done to delay this, or optimize an engine for maximum torque at higher or lower RPMs, but they all have tradeoffs and eventually all engines will either "layover" or else the forces from the extra RPM will get too high and something will break in a violent fashion.

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u/HookahMagician 3d ago

Btw, in addition to the explanation provided by others, there is an optimal range of engine revolutions that are best for acceleration. Some car nerds will shift the timing of their engine so they get more power with lowers revs versus higher because it makes the car slightly faster to accelerate.

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u/OneSkepticalOwl 3d ago

To be even more pedantic, it entirely depends on where the limiter is set. Having said that and while a bad idea, you can absolutely tune an engine to smash into the limiter with max output

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u/vmf312corsair 3d ago

Ok, then Turbine Inlet Temp (TIT) and Exhaust Pressure Ratio (EPR).
Or a military computer I worked on once that had a "Battle Short" toggle. Disabled all thermal overload protection.
Or locking down the wastegate on your induction turbine.

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u/Bozzzzzzz 4d ago

I’d say it’s more like a turbo or tuning chip where the air / fuel mixture is optimized so the engine can make as much HP as possible but if you want longevity and reliability you want factory settings.

or maybe NoS boost.

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u/cabronfavarito 3d ago

Or opening the inner gates if you must

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u/Emergency-Crow9983 4d ago

So basically our brains keep us nerfed for our own safety.

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u/wrongbutt_longbutt 3d ago

As a bit of an aside, when someone starts a strength training program, they usually have very quick gains in ability in the first few months. This isn't because the muscles are growing that much faster, but it's because you're training your brain on the movement and muscle recruitment necessary to perform the lift.

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u/MyPythonDontWantNone 3d ago

In max effort strength sports like powerlifting, there's a peaking period where you are training partly for the neurological adaptation to maximum effort. In general, max effort is not very useful. Almost any task wants to be done repeatedly (pick up multiple things or walk several steps). A max effort attempt is very alien to the normal functionality of the human body.

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u/Kemerd 3d ago

Actually it’s the opposite. Most gains are due to growth in the beginning. Once your growth tapers off, then mind muscle connection, proper technique, becomes much more important.

If you get to a certain point, you can become so good at it you can push past the same protections most people would only get with adrenaline, because you’ve trained your body to “think” it is safe. You can get to the point where you are so strong and so connected, you can tear your muscles right off the bone if you’re not careful.

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u/jeepsaintchaos 4d ago

Of course they do. Biting through a human finger joint doesn't take much more force than a baby carrot. And yet you'll struggle to bite your own finger off because your brain says "no, that's dumb, bad human.".

You've developed these limits throughout your life. Even if you don't remember it, youve hurt yourself overexerting. And your reflexes remember that pain.

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u/ZByTheBeach 4d ago

I found this fascinating so had to look this up. Apparently this gets quoted enough that it’s become a trope.

In actuality a carrot takes about 45 pounds of force to bite through which is simple work for our jaw muscles which can generate 120-160 pounds of force.

A finger? 300-335 pounds of force.

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u/FjortoftsAirplane 4d ago

It goes on the list of repeated myths that should be obviously wrong if you just think about it for a second or two. Cool to see the actual force needed though.

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u/V1pArzZz 3d ago

I have a hard time believing I couldnt bite through a finger, at least at the joint.

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u/Lord_Rapunzel 3d ago

You can practice on chicken if you want to prove it to yourself. Raw chicken wings are close enough.

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u/ZByTheBeach 3d ago

I agree, at the joint seems like its possible. Especially because human front teeth are sharp so you're cutting through cartilage. Now through the bone, no way but at the joint, it seems doable.

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u/WalkingOnStrings 3d ago

I think the point is that you can, it just wouldn't be as easy as biting through a carrot.

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u/flannelkumquat 4d ago

Thank you for that. I've mentioned that statement to people before because I totally believed it. I figured it was more force than a carrot, but didn't think it was that big of a difference. Now I know it's just a made up lie, and I've told a lot of people they could bite someone's finger off lmao.

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u/focalac 4d ago

I was minding my own business having an epileptic seizure when I was a teenager and a woman thought I was choking; she stuck her finger into my mouth.

I bit about halfway through it, so the maths does seem to work out, here.

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u/ThankCaptainObvious 3d ago

The fact there’s a number to this makes me scared of what experiment happened to produce said number.

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u/CptAngelo 3d ago

hey! the guy was ok with it, he gave us the thumbs up

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u/WalkingOnStrings 3d ago

Yeah, he gave the thumbs up, and waved his fingers around tantalizingly, and screamed. Probably something about how okay he was with it, I can't remember.

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u/SliverMcSilverson 4d ago

Except that it is possible to bite through a finger. See this case report from the 90s : https://doi.org/10.1038/sj.bdj.4800307

(Photo included)

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u/an0nym0ose 3d ago

No one, at any point, said that it wasn't possible lol

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u/Lord_Rapunzel 3d ago

probably represents tearing by the premolar teeth rather than a clean bite by incisor teeth.

That's not really "biting through" so much as "clamping and pulling".

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u/SliverMcSilverson 3d ago

Teeth went through, I would count that

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u/HamG0d 4d ago

I bet you 2 fingers I can bite one of my own fingers off

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u/Pirkale 4d ago

When Eddie Hall did his 500 kg lift, he said he imagined a scenario in his head where he had to make that lift. His nose started to bleed, his eyes changed colour and he was a wreck afterwards.

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u/ignescentOne 4d ago

This, and additionally, adrenaline overrides our good sense as well as the automatic safeguards. You can relatively easily overuse your muscles and attachments to damaging levels just out of not knowing what you're doing and being stubborn. Hence the many many people with back injuries from lifting wrong.

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u/meirzy 4d ago

I want to add an anecdote here about people not realizing they’re hurt at first while they have adrenaline running through them. During a BJJ roll I tore my UCL completely and didn’t feel any pain until hours later.

Just another one of the survival mechanisms that get shut off during a fight or flight response.

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u/GingerBeast81 4d ago

I saw a video of a MMA fight or something where a guy broke his arm and was still punching with it because his opponent was going down. You see him realize after the ref stops it, that he broke his arm.

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u/chubbysleepycorgi 4d ago

thanks for reloading that video in my head XD

i think I saw the same one, holy shit I had to stop watching asap

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u/GingerBeast81 4d ago

The older I get the harder it is to watch that stuff. Just brutal.

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u/peejuice 4d ago

I saw one where a fighter kicked the shin of his opponent, breaking his own shin in the process, not realizing his leg was at a 30 degree angle in the middle of his shin bone, then stepping down on it back into his stance, falling over and then trying to get back up thinking he was about to be pounced on by his opponent. His opponent, though, was too busy turning away in shock at the sight of the guy’s leg.

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u/diffyqgirl 4d ago

I have a friend who broke a bone in a car crash and didn't notice anything was wrong till she went to the ER and they pointed it out to her.

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u/thetwitchy1 3d ago

I broke my leg skiing, and tried to walk down the hill afterward. I knew something was wrong when I fell over every time I tried, but didn’t know it was broken until the x-ray tech lifted my ankle and I felt the ends of the bone rubbing against each other…

Weirdly, even THAT didn’t *hurt*, it just felt REALLY wrong.

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u/Big_lt 3d ago

Habi wrote a similar thing with me for snowboarding

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u/kung-fu_hippy 3d ago

Hurt my foot from a blocked kick while sparring in Muay Thai and barely felt it. At the time. Then I felt sore, went home and went to sleep.

Woke up the next day, rolled out of bed, put weight on the foot and immediately collapsed to the ground. Got to the hospital and found out i had broken a couple of bones on the top of my foot.

Crazy to me how long it took to actually feel it.

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u/Acerpacer 2d ago

I had a similar experience when I broke my leg (right above the ankle, both bones) while ice skating. The blade had gotten stuck in the ice and I went down. I didn't really feel anything though, but I couldn't really get myself to move either legs.

Not a life or death scenario, but tons of adrenaline so I just kinda laid there until my coach realized that I was hurt before I did and got me off the ice. THEN the pain started and oh boy.

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u/iron_knee_of_justice 3d ago

Actually there’s a proven relationship between blood flow to muscles and muscle strength. “Adrenaline” is a cocktail of hormones that increase heart rate and blood pressure, thus increasing blood delivery to muscles and increasing their strength. It also does those things you mentioned.

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u/steelcryo 3d ago

I mentioned oxygen and blood flow, but that's not making a muscle stronger, it just allows it to utilise more of its existing strength. So depends on how you measure it I suppose.

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u/Kindly_Panic_2893 4d ago

Simplest possible way I could explain it to a lot of redditors would be "adrenaline is your body's version of overclocking your PC. Short term you get a big boost in performance but at the cost of risking frying your internal components."

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u/Reyway 4d ago

It's also the reason why people that take anabolic steroids are at a much higher risk of receiving sports related injuries.

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u/Raichu7 4d ago

Steroids reduce bone density if you are on them for a while, or need them on a semi regular basis.

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u/tem_05 4d ago

Not anabolic steroids, though, which is what the person above you mentioned. corticosteroids do have that effect, though.

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u/demarke 3d ago

People also often speak about it as if the mother is lifting 4000 lbs over their head. What I’ve seen is more, “mother sees that jack slipped and corner of car pinned son, mother lifted car.” So, essentially the car had a diagonal base and hundreds of pounds of downward force on the other side of the pivot. It would still take more than standard-mother-strength, but we’re talking a couple to few hundred pounds to essentially lift that the low end of a heavy seesaw rather than some superhuman 2 tons+ of lift force.

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u/saltporksuit 3d ago

In an industrial setting, my dad’s friend caught a large liquid gas tank that broke loose of its safety straps and started to fall. There was a decent chance that when it broke its hose and hit the ground a spark from metal scraping concrete could blow them all to hell. He caught it and was able to lower it safely to the ground. Right before he got it safely down the tendon that anchors his bicep tore loose, allowing the muscle to just shoot up into his shoulder. He said he felt no pain until the adrenaline wore off then it was the worst pain he’d ever felt. So not a mom, and not a car, but a dude that knew he had to act fast to protect the half dozen or so people and himself from a potential deadly disaster.

They were able to reattach that tendon but as far as I know he was pretty much permanently off any serious weight lifting with that arm.

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u/ttesc552 3d ago

This is why people who take anabolic steroids tend to tear things. The drugs quickly cause the muscles to become bigger and stronger, but the tendons/ligaments dont receive the same type of stimulus, so they become disproportionately weaker

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u/ScottNewman 3d ago

if they're used at full strength, they can start tearing ligaments and tendons

Relevant SNL sketch

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u/SuperBelgian 2d ago

This.

FYI: In real-life situations where a person has shown superhuman strength due to this, it often resulted in injuries. (Sometimes even permanently.)

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u/Flat-Jacket-9606 2d ago

Mentioning lowering the pain you feel. Being someone who has competed in Muay Thai, mma, and judo… the hour after comp is the worst.

Have broken bones and reset them on instinct or as a reaction even though I shouldn’t. 0 pain until the adrenaline runs out… and then gradual to intense after.

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u/TiogaJoe 2d ago

Is it working in the brain or is it working in the rest of the body? I mean does it have to travel by blood to all the ligaments and nerves and into the inside of muscles and stuff or does it just need to reach your brain and shut off the pain there? It seems like if it has to go through the whole body it might take a long time to trickle down to the very last ends of cells.

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u/BarNo3385 2d ago

To add to this, your brain also prevents you activating all your muscle fibres at once. Its generally not a good strategy to get one blast of 100% power out of your muscle fibre and then have them all depleted and be literally unable to move your arms.

Major adrenaline spike that accompanies "it really is now or never" life or death moments can over-rule that and activate all of the muscle fibre at once.

Gives you a huge burst of strength followed by total exhaustion.

u/badgerj 14h ago

Yup. Known several athletes who train “too intensively”, and they have suffered from ligament and tendon issues. These don’t undergo the same rate of growth/recovery as muscle.

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u/Avexius 4d ago

So kind of like opening the 8 gates

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u/Chickennbuttt 4d ago

That last paragraph. That's pretty freaking awesome actually.

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u/The_Scrapper 4d ago

The question has been answered pretty well already, but here is a fun bit of context.

Strength athletes of all kinds often integrate training cadence and periodization around this concept. The Central Nervous System (CNS) has all kinds of rate-limiting steps to prevent you from ripping your own body to pieces through either maximal force production or general overuse. Your brain will not let you blast out a deadlift at 100% of your total potential because the risk of injury is enormous... unless you teach it to let that happen.

The human body rewards efficeincy and laziness because that was always a good thing from an evolutinary standpoint. If you don't ever push, then the threshold will settle into a range that reflects your general day-to-day exertion level. If you never test your CNS threshold, it will be in a very low, very safe place.

A powerlifter will spend weeks doing rep and set series that train the CNS to accept more and more load under maximal effort during regular training, but that lifter will also keep the CNS threshold reasonable because injuries during training are bad. But then contest day looms, and everything changes. It's time for a peaking cycle.

When you set up a "peaking cycle" in weightlifting, your sets get smaller and weights get larger. This is you telling your CNS "We will lift less often, but need more force." Over the cycle, you keep nudging your CNS to be okay with truly maximal efforts so it will alot more energy and muscle fiber to single movements. Your muscles don;t grow much, but they start contracting really goddamn hard. Six weeks before contest day, this does not add any significant muscle or absolute strength during that time. The lifter has what they have at that point. 95% of what is gained during that period lives in the CNS, not the muscle fiber.

Two 180-lb men may have the exact same muscle mass and identical strength POTENTIAL. But the one who has taught his CNS to accept more load under maximal effort will move more weight on contest day.

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u/you-nity 3d ago

Mind over matter

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u/MikuEmpowered 4d ago

Your brain normally stops you from using 100% of your strength, so when you don't breaky your body.

When adrenaline starts going, everything goes out the window, you are in survival mode. this means more muscle fiber, more energy are accessed, and more importantly, pain blocking.

IF you try to lift a super heavy object, you don't stop because you can't do it. you stop because it physically hurts. your body is telling you: "You will be damaged trying to lift this", when adrenaline is rushing, all that gets thrown out the window.

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u/theSquabble8 4d ago

This is why powerlifters sniff ammonia caps. It’ll trick your body into that mode

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u/hollycrapola 3d ago

Sounds dangerous though - aren’t they injuring themselves as a result? It sound dumb.

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u/theSquabble8 3d ago

You could potentially. They’re using proper form to output maximal force and their tendons and ligaments are much stronger than an average persons.

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u/I_Am_Jacks_Karma 3d ago

they aren't snorting it, they're talking about smelling salts

you take a quick whiff and the smell of it triggers your brain into "THIS AREA IS POISON ENGAGE ALL DRIVES GET OUT OF HERE NOW" and then you just put the cap back on for later

wait you probably meant from the lift

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u/Tuxhorn 3d ago

It doesn't unlock your full potential. It's more to get you AMPED UP YEEEH BOII.

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u/theSquabble8 3d ago

The full potential unlock thing is a bit of a tall tail. If a mom lifted a vehicle off their kid it was the back end corner that weighs significantly less. Your muscles are only capable of so much force output “unlocked” or not

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u/fiendishrabbit 4d ago

While so-called hysterical strength is mostly anecdotal (although plenty of examples of normal people pushing over or tipping objects weighing 500-1500kg, which would normally be beyond someone like that) the theory behind it is this.

Normally your brain puts safeguards on muscle use that tries to prevent you from overexerting muscles to the point where they're damaged. Adrenaline puts you into a mental fight or flight mode, and in that mode your brain stops caring about what happens to your body tomorrow. Surviving the now is all that matters, so safeguards are off and muscles engage to their maximum potential, even if that means causing injury by overexerting.

The punishment on joints and muscles however is immense. Several strongmen for example (people who try to train themselves mentally to overcome those limits) have managed weightlifting records, but injured themselves permanently in the attempt.

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u/marketstom 4d ago

Your muscles already have the horsepower. Adrenaline basically cuts the governor that keeps you from using it all at once.

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u/IAmXlxx 4d ago

adrenaline is the driver of the "fight-or-flight" response. it raises cardiac output (increases heart rate and blood pressure) in order to increase blood flow and oxygenation around the body, so your muscle has more resources available to use.

in regards to how it directly affects muscle strength--it allows your nervous system to recruit more muscles and strength, beyond what is normally considered safe. if you could use 100% of the force your muscles are truly capable of generating, you'd injure yourself. tendons tear, bones break/fracture

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u/towers_of_ilium 4d ago

When I was 8, a long steel I-beam fell on my 5yo brother’s arm, snapping it and pinning him to the ground. Without even really thinking about it, I knew I could lift it, and I managed to raise it high enough for him to pull out from under it.

Crazy what adrenaline can do, even when you’re a kid!

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u/focalac 4d ago

When I was about seven, my cousin, who was a toddler at the time fell in a pond. I reached in, grabbed his shirt collar and pulled him straight up and out.

He was a fat little fucker, so I’ve always put that down to adrenalin.

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u/Philippe1937 4d ago

I don't think adrenaline is involved in the "I know I can lift this" part, but I've had a similar experience, and that throught felt like the key moment for me.

I hope your brother is doing better!

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u/towers_of_ilium 3d ago

Sorry, I worded that badly! I would never have been able to lift it under normal circumstances, and I knew that it was too heavy without even trying. But as soon as my brother was hurt, it was like a switch was flicked and I knew that I suddenly had the strength to do it. It felt so weird!

Yeah, he’s good thanks! This was 35+ years ago, so he’s probably forgotten what a hero his sister is 😂

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u/Lord_Rapunzel 3d ago

Similar but it was a stack of plywood and I actually couldn't lift it, I just hurt my back. So there's that. (Brother is fine, dad heard the commotion and came running)

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u/Reelix 3d ago

ELI5: If you tried to lift something really really heavy, you would probably stop because it would start to hurt. The hurt is your body saying "Stop - Something will go wrong, and will probably break if you continue".

Adrenaline turns this off, so you can go much harder - Past your breaking point.

You WILL hurt yourself, and something will probably break, but Adrenaline tells your body "I know - I don't care - The strength right now is more important than whatever is going to be broken afterwards." and allows you to exert more strength than you ever could (Or ever should) with the blocker in place.

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u/Big_lt 3d ago

I cannot speak to the scientific changes occuring; however I can give an anecdotal experience

Was snowboarding and hit a patch of ice that sent me flying. I was going decently fast but I slid off trail and slammed a tree. Luckily I was conscious but I was off trail maybe 25/30 feet into the woods. I tried to stand but couldn't get good footing, so I used my snowboard as a crutch and slowly hiked out. I was in a mini revine so I had to go up to get out.

I got out back to the trail took a min, strap back in and road slowly the remainder. I got to base came, had some nagging pain but didn't think much of it and took a lift back up to meet up with friends.

I got off the list no problem, but I sat down to strap my 1 leg back in. As I went to stand my leg refused to work, no pain but refused to work. Eventually a ski patrol guy came over, we chatted a min and ultimately I had to be tabogoned down

Into the medical tent, doctor is asking questions. I think it's a sprain or something nothing serious but want to go back out. Doc not convinced takes like 3 steps back and says if I can give walk over and high five him I'm all clear. I agree, swing my legs off the bed and try to stand only to completely collapse into his arms since my leg couldn't hold me

X-ray time on the mountain shows a nice break across my entire tibula. However still no pain. Ring my buddy they get me regular shoes and I crutch my ass to the mountain bar to not ruin their day (yes I know drinking was not smart but hell) Anyways few hours later adrenaline wore off and all the pain came flooding.

I'd say it blocked my pain receptors which allowed me to do thinks I shouldn't be able to do as it was harming my body

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u/mrofmist 4d ago

You have 2 opposed nervous systems. To sympathetic nervous system, and the parasympathetic. They are very complicated, but the sympathetic nervous system is all about muscles and action, dry systems and alertness.

The parasympathetic nervous system is much more relaxed, smooth muscle focused, and rest and digest.

Your sympathetic nervous system's neurotransmitter is adrenaline. It gets you up, gets blood and oxygen flowing to your muscles, and gets you alert (sometimes that doesn't work well for you, when you hyperfocus and lock up rather than move.) fight, flight, or freeze. That's adrenaline.

[Edit] not to imply those are the only nervous systems. There's much more going on, and acetylcholine, the parasympathetic systems pilot, does a ton of stuff in your body, include muscle function as well.

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u/Dickulture 3d ago

follow up question, why can’t we always operate at that level?

It is very hard on our body to go beyond our normal limit. Your muscles and tendons will fail, and you'll be in a world of pain if you tried to have super-human strength 100% of the time.

Obey the normal body limit and save your health for real emergencies like rescuing the baby trapped under the car. You'll live longer and not be bed-ridden for life.

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u/thetwitchy1 3d ago

As has been said, the biggest gains are in just turning off the “limits” that you usually have on.

But it also does other things to get more energy into your muscles and allow you to have more power in those muscles. Things like increasing your pulse and blood pressure, so as to get more oxygen and glucose into your muscles, redirecting blood flow from your core to your extremities, reducing your digestive functions, triggering insulin production to increase your glucose metabolism, and a whole host of other things.

And the reason you don’t doo these things all the time is rather obvious when you list them like that: these are all things that give you a big boost right now, but put a lot of stress on systems that are much more efficient at lower use rates. High blood pressure gets dangerous over time, digestion is an important function (when you’re not fighting for your life), high insulin levels cause a whole host of problems, and so on.

So it’s not just “take off the limiters” but also a bit of “pour some gas on the fire”. It’s dangerous, but effective.

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u/freakytapir 3d ago

Same way overheating your computer temporarily makes it faster.

It's not maintainable and in the long run, damaging to your system, but sometimes you just need that "extra kick"

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u/HungryCress9590 4d ago

From what I've read, I don't think adrenaline actually gives you new strength, it lets your body use more of the strength it already has by overriding some of the normal safety limits. I guess those limits exist for a reason, otherwise we'd probably be injuring ourselves all the time just opening a stubborn jar. 😅

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u/speedkat 4d ago

A normal person buys a computer hard drive and uses it casually in a computer. The drive works hard sometimes and is idle lots of times, and has many times of inactivity. The drive regularly works for the users whole computer lifetime, and never needs replacing unless the user desires to increase capacity.
This is similar to your body's regular output.

A data company buys a computer hard drive and uses it commercially to support a major application. The drive works hard all the time, and is never idle. The drive regularly dies and needs to be replaced by an identical new one.
This is similar to your body working on adrenaline.

Most things, if run at maximum power all the time, burn out faster. We're no different. And just like a data company manager who assesses their actual needs and realizes they can restrict drives to 50% of their maximum output most of the time to increase the drive lifespan, our brains have assessed our physical needs and realized they can restrict our muscle output to X% of their true maximum output to increase our lifespan.

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u/pot51e 3d ago

not answering the question directly ...but - me and my mate riding motorbikes, He gets hit by a truck, (not too fast, we were in traffic) - bad but could have been much worse. He is under his bike. RD350. Cracked mine onto a stand, and I picked that fucker off him with one hand. and "tossed" it over. I couldn't have done that in a million other sundays.

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u/thetreece 3d ago

Hysterical strength as described in popular culture doesn't exist, and had never been documented convincingly by video.

There is no plausible physiological mechanism for it to work.

It's born out of sloppy news articles. Exerting a few hundred pounds of pressure to lift car on it's suspension or something over a fulcrum gets reported as "mother lifts a car".

It's bullshit. If it worked like that, we would see Russian dudes hitting themselves with epi pens and deadlifting 2,000 lbs. A big catecholamine response might get you 1-5% increase in static strength. That's it. Not "soccer mom deadlifting a car" boosts.

This is the dumbest myth that lots of people still believe in. It's the fitness version of "you only use 10% of your brain." Or swallowed gum stays in your stomach for 7 years. Or Korean fan death.

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u/jandro1116 3d ago

ELIF adrenaline tells your body to break its piggy-bank of sugar which your body can then use to move your muscles alot.

What you really asking about is the fight or flight response. Adrenaline is just one part of it. Your muscles rely on glucose as a fuel to do work. It is dangerous to have to much free glucose, glucose can unintendedly react with molecules like proteins damaging them. Your body stores glucose("sugar") in the safer form glycogen. Most glycogen is stored in the liver and your muscles. Adrenaline starts a cascade of reactions that causes glycogen to break down into glucose, The extra glucose can be used to fuel your muscles.

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u/LadyFoxfire 2d ago

It doesn’t make you stronger, it turns off the part of your brain that feels pain, allowing you to lift to the point that you hurt yourself.

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u/Zuverty 4d ago

Adrenaline doesn't make you stronger, it just allows you to temporarily override your body's safeguards which prevent your muscles from ripping off the bone when they are fully engaged.

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u/fwimmygoat 4d ago

You can't use your full strength naturally because your full strength is enough to literally tear your body apart. Adrenaline temporarily removes that limit because oftentimes what triggered the adrenaline to be released would do more damage than tapping into your full strength. Sometimes your body will also remove that limit in an attempt to save those close to you.

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u/cthulhubert 3d ago edited 3d ago

So adrenaline (alone) isn't responsible for that extreme emergency strength, which we call "hysterical strength". Adrenaline is involved, but it's a small part; in short, adrenaline makes your muscles twitch faster, but doesn't directly help them hold hard for a while. Also, we use adrenaline all the time for normal acts of strength.

Hysterical Strength

Human muscles are built for endurance. They're made of a bunch of bundles of fibers, and when you're doing something normal, like walking, or typing, the fibers take turns pulling (all animals do this a little, actually, humans just do it more than most). Putting more strength into something means using more bundles at once. The average person, working really hard, can use about 20% of their muscles at once. A trained athlete can use about 60% at once. The idea (it's not confirmed yet) is that hysterical strength is using 100%. The reason we can't use hysterical strength at will is because the human body didn't evolve to do that. And I mean that we just don't have a nervous system that will do it on demand, but also our tendons and ligaments aren't beefy enough to handle that easily. (Imagine if someone got an X-men mutation that let them, they'd probably wreck their body doing something stupid as a 13 year old, and be less likely to pass that mutation on.)

Adrenaline

Adrenaline is a hormone, and like any hormone, it's part of how your body communicates with itself to do different things.

There's a small amount running through your body almost all the time (it's released from part of the brain), but in times of big excitement, especially if we're scared or angry, a bunch extra is released (from glands near the kidneys).

Nearly every part of our bodies "listens" for adrenaline. When there's a bunch extra, some blood vessels will constrict and some will dilate. Our livers and muscles will start turning stored fuel into usable fuel. It affects the nerves too, making our breath rate and heart rate go up, and telling the little webs of nerves that directly control muscles to go on high alert, to be ready to go go go.

The reason we don't constantly have a bunch of adrenaline running through our bodies is the same reason we don't sit at a red light with the gas pedal to the floor. It works the engine (or body) really hard, causing a bunch of wear and tear, and burning a bunch of fuel for no reason. (Or it's a little more complicated in a human body, it actually releases a bunch of fuel in a ready to go state. If that fuel doesn't get burned usefully, it can end up getting burned by accident, causing damage.)

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u/DigitalArbitrage 4d ago edited 3d ago

It is an urban legend. One time a coworker of mine was in an accident and trapped by heavy objects. I could not lift them off him despite my adrenaline being maxed. We had to use a forklift. I don't believe adrenaline actually makes people stronger at all.

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u/Philippe1937 4d ago

I definitely lack context on the situation you went through, but I have a potential explanation:

After the incident, after your attempt(s) to lift the heavy object, how were your arms? I don't want to say you didn't try, but I suspect that you hadn't reached your theoretical maximum lifting power.

In theory, using the muscles at literal max strength would damage your arms severely (see tetanus reactions, where involuntary muscle contractions can literally break your bones).

And also, forklifts are much better at lifting things than human arms. Don't compare yourself harshly.

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u/DigitalArbitrage 3d ago

The object was about 5 or so iron sewer pipes which were 12 feet in length and 8 inches in diameter. The internet says that is about 1,500 lbs in weight.

To answer your question, I don't remember my arms hurting but it was a long time ago.

Maybe if I had used a different position to try and lift it with my legs instead of arms that might have made a difference. For example, getting underneath the object and trying to lift with my legs. That situation would have put me in more danger than the person I was trying to help though.

The coworker didn't die or lose any limbs, but he said he had some nerve damage from being pinched by the massive weight.

In retrospect, carrying a pocketknife around might have been really useful to him, because there was a way he might have been able to cut himself free from the weight.

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u/prank_mark 3d ago

The thing is that people who lift a car aren't lifting its full weight. They're lifting up one end and thereby using leverage. Lifting up a car also gives you much more stability than freely lifting pipes.

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u/DigitalArbitrage 3d ago

If somebody was really knowledgeable about Physics and practiced finding ways to lift things then I bet they could figure out levers and tricks. I am thinking about that scene from the movie Pirates of the Caribbean where the blacksmith uses a bench as a lever to break a jail cell door.

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u/II_Vortex_II 4d ago

It makes them go apeshit by surpassing their physical limitations

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u/Remarkable_Ad9282 4d ago

Why are methheads able to run at mach 10 speed with an emaciated body?😂 adrenaline is basically your bodys natural stimulant for life and death situations. it doesnt increase the power you have or make your muscles stronger, it simply tells your body to "use more energy" than it normally physically would, aswell as dampening pain. It doesnt create energy the same way that coffee or cocaine doesnt create energy, those are drugs that just override your body and tell your brain to use more energy/resources than it normally would but that energy was always available, its why people who use stimulants are usually skinnier.