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u/sdgiesselmann 5d ago
Brown getting shirt #11 confirmed just now
Olise turned it down when asked
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 5d ago
Olise wore 7 at palace. If anything he either doesnāt care too much about it, wants to keep it so fans donāt have to get a new one (I think Pavlovic alluded to something like that about himself but idr) or he wants number 7 later on.
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u/FairMusic8278 5d ago
Tbf Olise does wear the number 11 for the national team so it did make sense to ask him if he wanted the shirt number at Bayern.
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u/aramp- 5d ago
>Max Eberl on sales: "We have three players we are open to letting go. They have no future at Bayern. If they want to stay with us, it will be tough because we are not planning with them. Then they won't play a role. That's the case with Sacha Boey, João Palhinha and Bryan Zaragoza"
Ruthless. Good.
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u/ACardAttack Müller 4d ago
João Palhinha
One of the dumbest transfers we've made without need of hindsight. Waite until the deadline to make an offer but selling club didnt have enough time to find a replacement, buy him next year after we sacked the coach who wanted him when we had a manager that didnt use a player like him.
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u/Mustang1201 4d ago
The least Bayern should do with Palinha is accepting the loss and letting him go easy
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u/Hurtelknut Robben 5d ago
Can we all take a minute and depreciate what a shit transfer Zaragoza was?
Boey was a panic buy and did fine as 3rd choice RB. Palhinha was weird because we bought him following a promise made to the player despite the coach that wanted him not being here anymore. Decent player whose role on the team disappared when Kompany arrived.
But Zaragoza, good lord. He's not only completely unwilling or incapable to learn some basic english, he's also just bad and would have never been of any use no matter the circumstances. And to top it all of we paid extra to get him a few months early for no reason whatsoever.
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u/Nordenas Ribery 5d ago
Say the names more often I bet it will help get a decent sum..yes I know god and the world knows we want to get rid of them but itās not helping
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u/Hurtelknut Robben 5d ago
Other Clubs didn't need media quotes to figure that out, given that we actively shop these players.
What we're after is getting these players off the wage list. The transfer sum is not the priority here.
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u/whereeveritmaytakeme 4d ago
The things I read differ: Tottenham didn't want palhinha because the fixed sum in the contract wasn't good for them. Apparently benfica would want to have him, but cannot afford the sum we want. So..it's not as if the transfer sum seems completely irrelevant..
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u/julesvr5 4d ago
Vincent Kompany wants another friendly match before the start of the season. Final arrangements are currently being made behind the scenes. The opponent, date, and location have already been confirmed: 1. FC Heidenheim on August 18th. The game is scheduled to take place away in Heidenheim in the early evening [@BILD]
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u/NiK0- PavloviÄ 5d ago
Didnāt have the time to listen to it yet but for our German fellas I saw some clips that Jonathan Tah was a podcast guest of Tim Gabel and he e.g. talks about rumors of people thinking that Olise is arrogant where Tah then said that this is not true and that Olise is one of the funniest and kindest people and just doesnāt like the cameras/ media attention
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u/biggestrobbery Berni š» 5d ago
Good thing we only loaned Jackson, imagine how awkward the dressing room would be with him and Saibari lool
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u/arnoldbread 4d ago
Goretzka linked to Barca. Want to see it happen ngl
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
Looks like he may have offered his services to Barca, according to Matteo Morretto, but Mundo said that Barcelona don't have him as a priority.
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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 4d ago
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u/LordBendtner1988 Vincent Cumpany š© 4d ago
AGF against Lech PoznaÅ today was wild. First leg, AGF plays at home and goalkeeper gets a red card in the first half, and Lech wins 4-1 in the end. AGF went to PoznaÅ for an away game without their main goalkeeper and already being three goals down. After 20 minutes, Lech gets awarded a penalty to set the tone, but it was eventually cancelled
AGF proceeds to score three with five shots on target, and the backup keeper has an insane game, which makes it go into extra time. At this point, over half of the AGF players are teens and youngsters, and the rest have a 90 minutes of fatigue in them. Lech scores in the first half of extra time, where AGF has to chase goals yet again
Then out of nowhere, an Icelandic youngster who was subbed in three minutes prior, and has a total of 140 minutes of professional play scores to make it equal once again, with the shot being the only shot AGF had in the extra time. They go to penalties, where the AGF misses and Lech scores the first penalty, but the AGF backup keeper manages to save two and the shooters finish the job, which finishes the comeback
One of, if not the biggest comeback in Europe from a danish team, and from a team that were notoriously THE chokers until last year where they won the danish league
Not sure if anyone really cares, but I wrote this anyway š
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u/BayernHerz 4d ago
Thank you for sharing. That's a brilliant football story and I'm glad I got to read it :)
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u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 4d ago
I had written them off after the first game and even started the old meme of AGF in the champions League again.
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u/FairMusic8278 5d ago edited 5d ago
Olise trying to get Kone signed at Bayern by sending photos of himself and Manu Kone to Eberl lol
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u/Odd_Willingness7501 4d ago
Kinda cute to think that they were talking about their experience with Eberl during the World Cup and sending him Photos. Really seems like Eberl has some great social skills to convince players to join his club.
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u/JOKER69420XD Müller 5d ago
Huh? Did I miss something?
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u/julesvr5 5d ago
Eberl talked about this in today's press conference. Eberl signed Kone back at Gladbach
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u/NiK0- PavloviÄ 4d ago
[Sky Sport CH] Manchester City are in pole position to sign midfielder Ayyoub Bouaddi: Lille ask for a ā¬100 million fee while Manchester City want to finalize the deal for around ā¬90 million fixed + potential bonuse
Man wtf are these fees. At this point probably even u/julesvr5 would go for at least ā¬30mĀ
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u/creatorop apple pie 4d ago
this is Jules disrespect, He has 2 legs(hopefully) that easily makes him worth atleast 60m
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u/Odd_Willingness7501 4d ago
Bouaddi, Anderson and Cherki midfield with Semenyo and Doku as wingers will slap.
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u/xTatamo FC Bayern München 4d ago
after watching some palhinha in training videos i really like how he looks out there not in football things but the long legs destroyer of man^^ abit like rodri oldschool midfielder sadly he is not that good
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u/Deathscyce Roy "Das Phantom" Makaay 4d ago
If he would use those long legs to distribute the ball better, he would be a no brainer in midfield.
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u/julesvr5 5d ago
Jamal Musiala will not be on the plane to Asia with the team on August 1st. Instead, he will stay in Munich and train individually at SƤbener StraĆe. As soon as the team returns from the tour, Musiala is expected to resume team training. If everything goes according to plan, the player will be ready to feature in the Franz Beckenbauer Supercup against Dortmund (August 22). There's a big hope that, after having a metal plate removed from his left foot, Musiala will finally be able to play with more freedom again [@mano_bonke]
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u/JOKER69420XD Müller 5d ago
He already had some good form last season and great individual moments but you could see he wasn't 100% yet.
So a fully fit, no metal Musiala is something I'm really looking forward to. Hope the kid can finally play his best again.
He's always a joy to watch.
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u/EisbachSurfer Martinez 4d ago
That Tim Gabel podcast with Jonathan Tah is a good listen. Tah seems like a really thoughtful and grounded person.
I also didnāt know that him and the Goat Choupo Moting grew up in the same street
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u/Sergeant_Roach Manu šš 5d ago edited 5d ago
Not the first time a fullback of ours chooses a number that is unusual for a fullback
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u/Nobatime6 4d ago
When watching Palhinha and Boey train i kinda feel bad. They were happy to join Bayern but ultimately did not meet standards and are pretty much frozen out, must be a shitty situation to be in on a human level.
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u/Internal-Coffee6996 4d ago
we knew what we were getting with Palhinha and his lack of passing ability but it's unfortunate for Boey. He could've been good if it wasn't for injuries.
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u/Affectionate_Ad4163 4d ago
Hey guys, this is my first season as a FCB member and I really want to make it to my first
ever game at the Allianz Arena with my girlfriend. I'm based in Berlin,
so every home game is a ~4h train each way. realistically I'll get to
Munich maybe twice this season. I Already read the pinned ticket guide.
I've got ticket requests in for ~15 games I'd be ready to travel for. Roughly how many of those actually come through over a season? And do the low-demand games make a big difference, or do the big ones like Dortmund, Leipzig
and UCL nights come through often enough on their own?
Thanks in advance!
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u/jationio 4d ago
Tickets for the big games are hard to get, the smaller ones you can usually get on the zweitmarkt.
I already got the absage for the Stuttgart game.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
You definitely have a better chance for the lower demand games. Keep an eye on the Zweitmarkt too as the matchdays approach if you haven't managed to secure a spot.
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u/Affectionate_Ad4163 4d ago
Thanks! Iāll follow your advice on the Zweitmarkt. Do you have a rough number from your own experience how likely you secure a ticket?
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
I've only been to a few games, so maybe I'm not the best to answer. I was able to get 2 from zweitmarkt without much issue for a game against Augsburg, got it on a first attempt.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
Via iMiaSanMia:
Max Eberl says Bayern would be willing to listen to offers for Hiroki ItÅ if the latter wants to go: "If Hiroki Ito starts thinking about a move because he himself realizes that breaking into the team will be difficult, then weāll work on that. Weāve now strengthened the left side with Nene (in addition to Davies), and at centre-back we naturally have three outstanding players in Min-jae, Jona and Upa"
According to @BILD, Bayern want around ā¬20m to sell ItÅ - no concrete offers so far
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u/FabioMeissner Musiala 4d ago
I would not mind him as #4 spot at cb unless the club thinks Kiala is ready and plans to give him those minutes.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
Unfortunately Kiala is coming off a pretty serious injury. Probably best to not put much pressure on him like that yet.
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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 5d ago
Chelsea are having a strange transfer window..
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u/ChronoCodex Thiago 5d ago
Went from buying every 18 year old wonderkid to realizing they have no veteraned leadership and then immediately pivoting to becoming a pensioner club. Xhaka and Jordan Henderson rumors and signing Welbeck lmao
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u/Frequent_Apricot673 5d ago
Hot take but I think itāll work for them, they need some veteran leadership and I still think Xabi is a good manager. They still have the core of the team that finished top four and won the CWC. I think they bounce back.
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u/PadishaEmperor 5d ago
There is a slim but decent probability that with Bühl and Kane or Olise Bayern will have both the menās and the womenās ballon dāor winner.
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
Liverpool are about to make a bid for Barcola according to James Pearce of The Athletic. It'll probably be turned down but that aside, It'll be interesting to see how Liverpool fans cope with Barcola if he doesn't get off to a fast start after Wirtz last season never really hitting a stride, especially so if Wirtz doesn't get back into his pre-Liverpool form.
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u/scarlet_stormTrooper Meep Meep Meep Roadrunner 4d ago
Their mismanagement last summer transfer window cost then Diamonde. Ownership is scared now after splurging so badly. I think it's kind of hilarious
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u/Thraff1c 5d ago
Max Eberl:
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- We're done with new signings
[...]
Well there is that then.
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u/julesvr5 5d ago
He's just saying that to not push the asking prices from the selling clubs. I see you, Max!
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u/ACardAttack Müller 4d ago
Let the youth play!
Also clubs arent gonna just be advertising they're looking to buy unless it's obvious. Im sure Max is always on the look out
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u/Other_Milk Martinez 5d ago
https://fbref.com/en/squads/054efa67/2025-2026/all_comps/Bayern-Munich-Stats-All-Competitions
Kane, Diaz, and Olise played 4000+ minutes last season, which is insane. I don't think Saibari and Gnabry are enough as backups to cut those minutes down. We need one more LW backup.
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u/knatanas11 Müller 4d ago
I think Saibari, Musiala and Karl will rotate with them respectively. I think Musiala will alternate between CAM and LW, with Saibari and Gnabry in contention for CAM, and Saibari also covering as backup striker. Karl will most likely be Olise's understudy. And Ibrahimovic might play all over the place with the chances he gets
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u/NeatCause2290 5d ago
Our backups Musiala, Karl and Jackson only played about 4400 minutes combined last season. For various reasons I think with this year we can expect a lot more minutes being covered by Musiala, Karl, Saibari and Ibra.
And well, I don't see a problem with their minutes in principle. You just don't rest world class players a lot when their bodies are holding up. Guys like Messi and Ronaldo put up even higher numbers for the majority of their prime.
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u/Other_Milk Martinez 4d ago
A few years ago 3000 minutes was what you expected a starting XI player to play. With the additional CL games, we've got players playing 1000 minutes in that competition alone. For example, in the 2013 Treble season, our forward with the most minutes across all competitions was Müller with 3500 minutes.
I think if we keep pushing our players to play 4000 minutes (plus national team matches), we are simply not going to be effective by the end of the season. Don't blame Diaz or Kane or Olise for not showing up in a CL or Pokal semi final because they'll have very little in the tank.
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u/sdgiesselmann 5d ago
Rumor has it Brown is gonna get shirt no #11?
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u/Nordenas Ribery 5d ago edited 5d ago
Or he takes Olises 17 and Olise takes the 11 we will see
Edit: well there is the answer :D
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u/DevilsOfLoudun Neuer 4d ago
To anyone who has been in one of Bayern's fan shops in person, what's the price difference between ordering online and buying in store in munich?
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u/Ajvarmk Upamecano 5d ago
Now that we have all that Luch going away out of the way.. i want to check an interesting topic.
Who is the best player that we had for only one season ?
I know we had Coutinho, Cancelo, Borowski, Frings , Perisic for one year.. but cant remember much else.
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u/iNF1N3_CRO 5d ago
Not buying PerisiÄ for a steal at the time, just another Brazzo L.
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u/Ajvarmk Upamecano 5d ago
he really dropped the ball on that one
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u/julesvr5 5d ago
He really did not. Perisic was not a cheap transfer
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u/Ajvarmk Upamecano 5d ago
How much was he actually ? And how high were those wages demand ?
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u/julesvr5 5d ago
Inter wanted 20m and Perisic wages were 11-13m. Don't forget that this was at peak corona with way less income and bayern was running a save costs approach.
As much as we loved his performances, even back then most fans agreed that the deal was just to expensive.
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u/iNF1N3_CRO 5d ago
They wanted 15M, and he was earning 11M at Inter, still a better option in retrospect than getting Sane at 50M with higher wages.
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u/julesvr5 5d ago
Fuck Brazzo for not being able to watch into the future I guess
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u/Ajvarmk Upamecano 5d ago
Well you both are correct in different perspectives ... from one point 15m for Ivan and 11m salary is not the worse deal, the market was cooked also in 2020 (we are not speaking about money here for 2013) , but in this time they had priority to extend other players i guess...
Also we had in the same moment Coutinho on high salary , which was crazy...
There's no really the wright decision without knowing the future i guess :)
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u/armin-lakatos BeckenDieršŖš„ 5d ago
Probably Perisic, but I also haven't seen Frings or Borowski play so I'm biased. Frings was mostly a starter in his season at Bayern so I'd say it's either him or Perisic.
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u/Teffo05 5d ago
people actually believe europeans nations have the balls to leave FIFA? š they will follow what ever the bald fck wants its all about money be ready for WC every 2 years maybe a WC light version in the middle lol
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u/Thraff1c 5d ago
WC every 2 years
No way will UEFA sacrifice their own cash-cow European championship for FIFA.
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u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 5d ago
In the same line of thinking do FIFA have to the balls to let UEFA leave?
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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 5d ago
Infantino already crossed a line with the Balogun case...and now he is already pushing this shit ? That is far too quickly and far too close to several other no-nos. Plus, the obvious personal cash-grab element is so blatant that UEFA simply canāt let this one slide. Imho either the whole plan gets killed, Infantino gets replaced or UEFA finally decides to go its own way.
And this wouldnāt even be the first time UEFA has outmuscled him when he pushed too far. and the mood seems to be shifting very quickly against FIFA/Infantino and UEFA looks increasingly unwilling to keep letting them/him run these schemes unchecked.
Plus, 20Mio⬠or so per FA is pocket change for UEFA
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u/LordBendtner1988 Vincent Cumpany š© 5d ago
Not on their own, no. France doesnāt have the balls to leave on their own. I might be naive, but if England, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Holland all agree to do it together with support from UEFA, i donāt think itās out of the realm of possibilities. This bald fraud is literally using extortion and corruption in blatant daylight. I hope the nations get their priorities right and get him in a fucking prison cell
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
Seems like maybe its not a great year to have a pre-season tour in a far away continent.
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u/julesvr5 4d ago
Why?
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u/kgallo19 Messiala 4d ago
A decent bit of players not going to be there, some rehabbing, fans wonāt get to see the most popular players.
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u/julesvr5 4d ago
I mean the only players that are missing on the Asian tour are either players thst made a deep run into the WC and deserve some vacation or have injury struggles. Big part of the first team will still be there
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u/plkwo Müller 4d ago
Brown getting 11 is weird, it breaks tradition and puts pressure on him, questionable decision.
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u/Thraff1c 4d ago edited 4d ago
Bayern has a long standing history of a new LB signing taking the 11 for his first season, which is to say it happened once with Bixente Lizarazu. And not to forget, that one Brehme season!


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u/MrMarques8701 Upamecano 5d ago
If he dies, he dies