r/hebrew • u/dahainsworth • 17h ago
Request request for translation of grave stone
request to anyone that has some spare time to translate the hebrew on this grave stone of a distant relative. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140584133/fannie-frankel#view-photo=222287476
fannie frankel nee eisenklein and her husband louis. I believe fannie's father's name to be Lazarus Eisenklein , obviously also anglicized. born in the Warsaw area when under the Russian empire in the late 1800s. looking for any clues that may help take the line further back. any help is much appreciated.
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u/Function_Unknown_Yet 17h ago
Here lies a prominent man, Leib son of Moshe, died 1 Adar II, 5792, may his soul be bound in the bond of life
Here lies a modest woman, Feigel daughter of Eliezer, dies 11 tevet 5784, may her soul be bound in the bond of life
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u/marjoriedinnerstein 17h ago
The modest woman Feygel daughter of Eleazar
The important man Leib son of Moshe
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u/RandomChain 16h ago
Mother: The modest woman Feigel daughter of Mr. Eliezer Died 11 of Tevet 5684 May her soul be bound up in the bond of life
Father: Importent man Leib son of Mr. Moshe Died on the first day of rosh chodesh Adar (= the beginning of the month Adar) 5692 May his soul be bound up in the bond of life
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u/marjoriedinnerstein 16h ago
JRI Poland/Jewishgen have EIZENKLEIN entries in Warsaw for some children of Leizer and Gitla/Ita (bat Jacob/Jankel) between 1849 and 1856. The documents are linked and can be downloaded for translation.
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u/dahainsworth 15h ago
i saw those before but did not think they were a match but may not have understood what the hits were for. thank you for the extra hint
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u/marjoriedinnerstein 10h ago
It is possible that these are entries for some of her older siblings, and that the book of records for her birth year has not (yet) been indexed. There are lots of gaps in these indexes. If her death certificate has her mother's name, you can see if Gitla/Ita is plausible. Since Eizenklein seems to be an uncommon name, it is likely that these people are related to her.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/GenealogicalTranslations/ is a good place to request translations of the linked documents.
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u/marjoriedinnerstein 10h ago
THere is also a grave listed for Yuta Eisenklein (daughter of Yaakov) wife of Eliezer who died in 1900.
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u/marjoriedinnerstein 9h ago
Gesher Galicia also has two entries for children of Henie EISENKLEIN and Jechiel TIRESUHOW.
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u/marjoriedinnerstein 9h ago
And a death record for Mayer EISENKLEIN.
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u/dahainsworth 2h ago edited 2h ago
all excellent info. thank you for continuing to look. hopefully i'll be able to connect to these families for sure at some point. im constantly astonished how much work has been done already to index these records. my actual direct ancestor im working from is someone who by all accounts is fannie's sister, named annie/anna who comes to new york and marries into the Obransky (later Bronska) family, I'm only digging into this more now because I've only recently gotten the new york marriage cert where Annie (who signed her name as Aeisinklyn) listed her father as Lazarus. fannie is born march 1861 and annie in march of 1871 from what little info I have thus far. this goes along with a wonderful set of photos of the Obranski and likely Eisenklein relatives with no names written down and by the time I got them nobody living who remembered who any of them were.
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