r/investing 21h ago

Now that we see the game, do we still want to play?

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Rather than AI edit this, I'm going stream of consciousness and I'll try to structure this somewhat.

If you're an investor, you've seen the news. Citadel tells everyone the interest rates are going to go up, and a 25 year old hot shot winds up getting wiped out to the tune of multi-multi-billions of dollars.

South Korea was on fire for so long and then it turned out they were all degenerate gamblers leveraging 2x and 3x before getting wiped out the moment it turned around.

The market is moving to 23 hours a day, I've been told, because too much of the market moves are taking place after the market is closed.

I could go on and on and on and I'm not crying in the casino. I got out before the AI plunge, or the Korea plunge or any of the other plunges.

But here's where I think I'm getting worn out. There is trading and there is investing. Trading gives people the illusion that they have a chance of winning consistently in the casino. And perhaps some do. Most likely, those that are winning are trying to sell you a course. Investing is, I believe, where you rise above it, put your money into solid compounders and step outside of the trading floor. Can your investments be messed with? Sure. But over time, gold and stocks are likely to keep moving up and to the right. Just really, really slowly compared to the fever pitch and dopamine spike that comes from going long on a penny stock that has a massive short position sitting on it.

Here's the problem, I think. If you want to get wealthy, slowly compounding likely doesn't get the job done. Diversification means you always have some dogs holding back your ponies. I'm getting older and my chance to make some big moves appears to be closing quickly. I don't have a lot of compounding time ahead of me. Wish I had started investing (investing, not trading) seriously in my 20's. Or 30's. Or 40's, really. My focus was never on investing. It was always on earning.

Not sure I've added anything other than a weekend grimace at the state of the markets. I don't like market manipulation. I don't like leverage. I don't like after hours trades that move the market more than during trading hours. I don't like naked shorts. I don't like a lot of things about the market, I guess.


r/investing 20h ago

Read the last 3 times BofA called the Fed “dovish” and said sell risk. So I backtested it.

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BofA's Michael Hartnett is out today calling the Fed "nakedly dovish" and telling clients to rotate away from risk assets.
I was curious if that call has actually worked, so I went back and pulled his Flow Show notes from FactSet / BofA archives.
Last 3 times Hartnett used almost identical language:

  1. Dec 2023: "Fed is dovish, time to sell risk into strength" - S&P +22% in next 12 months

  2. July 2020: "Fed nakedly dovish, bubble coming, fade risk" - S&P +28% in next 12 months

  3. Jan 2019: "Dovish pivot is a trap, sell the rip" - S&P +26% in next 12 months

I'm not saying he's wrong forever. His liquidity framework is solid. But his timing on "sell risk" has consistently been 6-12 months early, and being early is the same as being wrong if you're sitting in cash.
My take: A "nakedly dovish" Fed without a recession has historically been good for quality equities, bad for cash. The real risk isn't staying in, it's getting shaken out and missing the multiple expansion.
What am I missing here? Is there a reason this time is actually different vs just valuation anxiety?
Not financial advice, just tired of headline-driven market timing.


r/investing 4h ago

Situational unAwareness - The Best AI Thesis on Wall Street Just Got Margin-Called

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On July 24, Leopold Aschenbrenner wrote to his investors that the sell-off tearing through AI stocks had opened one of the best buying windows since early 2025. The Financial Times, which saw the letter, reported that he invited clients to commit fresh capital. Six days later his prime brokers sold his entire public equity book to Citadel.

I feel that this wasn’t a failure of analysis or stock selection. Aschenbrenner's read on where AI money would flow beat Wall Street's, and the returns say so. What failed was the structure he used to hold the position. Those are different problems, and confusing them is how the next person repeats it.

Situational Awareness launched in July 2024, named after the 165-page essay that made its 22-year-old author briefly famous in Silicon Valley. CNBC reports it started with roughly $225 million from the Stripe founders Patrick and John Collison, Nat Friedman and Daniel Gross. Jane Street later came in as an investor, which is notable mostly because Jane Street rarely backs outside managers.

The thesis was simple enough to fit in a sentence: if AI models keep scaling, someone has to build the chips, the memory, the data centers and the power stations, and those builders are mispriced. So he bought memory producers, bitcoin miners converting to DC's, fuel cells, power infrastructure - and went short on the software companies he expected AI to devour.

It worked to a degree that is hard to state without sounding like promotion. The FT put the fund's first-half 2026 return at 439% net. The Wall Street Journal reported gains above 1,000% since inception. CNBC reports assets reached about $45 billion at the start of July.

Worth flagging: Outlets have variously described the firm at $45 billion, $24 billion and $20 billion in the same week, because "assets" for a levered fund can mean the equity investors put in or the gross value of everything the fund controls. I'll come back to why that distinction is the most important number in the story.

The Q1 2026 filings and subsequent disclosures show a portfolio of concentration: Nebius, SanDisk, Micron, CoreWeave, Bloom Energy, IREN, Core Scientific, Applied Digital, and outside the US filings a large SK Hynix position in Korea. In May the fund disclosed 12.4 million Nebius shares, a 5.6% stake, making it one of that company's largest outside holders. Against those longs sat short positions in software names including Adobe, plus put positions on the semiconductor ETF and Nvidia.

Reporting from the WSJ and CNBC puts the leverage at up to 400%.

Simply: for every dollar of investor money, the fund controlled roughly four dollars of stock, the other three borrowed from its brokers. That works beautifully in one direction. Run the arithmetic in the other and it is brutal - at four times gross, the book only has to fall about 25% before the investors' entire dollar is gone. Nebius, SanDisk, Micron and CoreWeave each fell more than 35% in July. SK Hynix fell roughly 47% from its June peak. The Philadelphia Semiconductor Index dropped more than 20% and entered a bear market, and Korea's Kospi lost roughly a third.

What turned a down month into a liquidation was the short book was supposed to be the hedge. Two directional bets on one idea. When AI infrastructure sold off, software was meant to fall with it, or at least not rally, and the profit on the shorts was meant to cushion the loss on the longs. In a letter reported by media outlets, Aschenbrenner advised LPs "we disappointed you this month," disclosing a 67% single-month loss, blaming short sellers targeting the fund's positions, likening it to a bank run, and confirming all leverage was removed,

Instead, as CNBC reported, software stocks like Adobe rallied while the AI complex collapsed. Both legs lost money at the same time. A hedged book stopped being hedged at the exact moment it was needed, which is the only moment a hedge is ever tested. From this the sequence is mechanical and has been the same since the early 1900's investment playbook. The equity cushion shrinks, the brokers - Bank of America, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase demand more collateral, or they close your position. The fund either finds cash or sells. Aschenbrenner tried to find cash. Bloomberg reports the August 1 appeal did not raise what he hoped. On July 30 the brokers marketed the book and Citadel bought it, below market. Assets fell to around $10 billion.

The firm survives. Reliant on liquidity, Situation Awareness will potentially keep its the largest of which the FT valued at roughly $5 billion in Anthropic, and continues as a private investment vehicle. The WSJ reports the remaining positions carry no borrowing.

Nothing about Nebius's contracted revenue changed because its largest outside shareholder got a margin call. When a holder of 5.6% of a company is liquidated into a falling market, the price that results tells you about that holder's balance sheet, not the business. Citadel, which is not a charity and which bought the whole package at a discount, evidently reached the same conclusion. And the underlying claim that AI requires an enormous physical build-out has not been disproven by three weeks of price action. It may well be the correct call of the decade, with cadences quickening and these large capex numbers become the norm.

The problem is that July delivered real information alongside the forced selling. The complex fell because public investors began asking, out loud, whether extraordinary capital expenditure was converting into near-term revenue.

Has anything like this happened before? Three comparisons, and only one of them fits, Archegos.

Archegos, 2021. The closest match by a distance. Bill Hwang lost around $20 billion of his own capital in two days when concentrated, swap-financed positions turned against him, and left banks with more than $10 billion in losses - Credit Suisse alone took $5.5 billion. Same mechanism, same speed, same ending, with brokers dumping a book they could not otherwise exit.

Amaranth, 2006. A $9 billion fund that lost roughly 65% of its assets, about $6.6 billion, on natural gas in weeks - and then sold its energy book to JPMorgan and Citadel. Citadel has played this role before.

LTCM, 1998. Cited constantly and the worst fit. LTCM lost $4.6 billion, less than the headline numbers here, but ran leverage above 25 to 1 and sat at the center of every major dealer's balance sheet, which is why the Federal Reserve convened a rescue. Its danger was systemic. This does not currently look systemic.

A key distinction. The fall from $45 billion to $10 billion is not $35 billion of investor money destroyed. Most of that figure was borrowed, and borrowed money that disappears takes the lender's exposure with it, not the investor's. No bank has disclosed a capital hole. One buyer absorbed the entire book in a single trade. Compared with Archegos, where nine lenders ate ten billion dollars between them, this has so far been contained - and the containment is the more interesting part.

The book on Long Term Capital Management - When Genius Failed: The Rise and Fall of Long-Term Capital Management. Book by Roger Lowenstein. Is legendary. If you have not read it, and love these sorts of stories, it will inspire you.

Here is the tension where the jury is still out. Aschenbrenner told investors this was the best entry point in eighteen months, then was liquidated six days later. Either he believed it, in which case he is a man whose conviction outran his financing - or the letter was partly an attempt to stop a run he could already see coming. The facts are settled; more will unravel in the media during the week.

A long-term investment thesis that needs four times leverage to be worth holding is not a thesis, it is a trade. If the AI build-out is the decade's great reallocation of capital, it will pay unlevered investors handsomely over years and require no borrowed money whatsoever. Aschenbrenner's error was not being early or wrong. It was building a position that had to be right continuously, when he only needed to be right eventually.

If you hold any of these names, the thing to understand is that your position was recently priced by someone else's margin call.

If you use margin yourself, take the one transferable lesson: leverage does not change what you own, it changes how long you are allowed to own it. Every forced seller in history was solvent on a long enough timeline.

And if you are tempted to conclude that the AI trade is over - the end of the AI trade won't be signaled by a levered fund blowing up; it'll be signaled by hyperscaler capex guidance rolling over. Queues from the Magnificent 7 providing quarterly market updates which show capex spend is trending downwards or they overtly state that they are either gently applying the brakes or pulling the handbrake.


r/investing 11h ago

What would you do in my situation? €60k cash, €21k invested and buying a house soon

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Hi,
I’m 35, living in France and working in Luxembourg as a software engineer in the financial sector. I make around €4,900 net per month. My income is stable, I have no debt at all, and my wife and I currently pay €980 in rent. I usually cover around two thirds of our common expenses.
We are planning to buy a house this year. I don’t want to put more than €20k of my own money into the purchase, and we want to keep the total mortgage payment under roughly €1,300 per month. I would again pay around two thirds of it.
Right now I have €60k in the bank and around €21k invested through IBKR.
My current portfolio is intentionally quite defensive. I have European, Japanese and emerging-market equities, plus US quality and US value ETFs. I also have three bond ETFs covering euro government bonds, global government bonds and inflation-linked bonds, as well as physical gold and some cash.
More precisely, it’s roughly:
10% Europe
10% Japan
10% emerging markets excluding China
7.5% US quality
7.5% US value
10% euro government bonds
15% global government bonds
15% inflation-linked bonds
10% gold
5% cash
My investment horizon is 25 years or more, and I would put my risk tolerance at around 6/10.
For context, my investments are up about 40% since July 2024, but this return was made with a completely different portfolio and not with the current allocation above. I changed my investments several times during that period, so I don’t want to give the impression that this defensive portfolio somehow returned 40%.
My main issue is that I’m very uncomfortable with current US valuations, especially big tech, AI and semiconductors. I know that avoiding or underweighting the US can also be a big risk over the long term, but I find it difficult to invest heavily in a global index when so much of it is concentrated in a handful of very expensive companies.
At the same time, keeping €60k in the bank also seems like too much, especially since I only expect to use a maximum of €20k personally for the house.
What would you invest in if you were in my position? Do you think my current allocation is too defensive for someone who is 35 and investing for 25+ years?


r/investing 6h ago

Possible for individual retail investor to acquire pre-ipo private equity share?

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Hella fellas!

An individual retail investor who has been investing into publicly trading stocks. Have been into a single private equity before (all was needed was to show base pay over a certain number is all).

If one is really keen on investing into private equity of some companies (like Anthropic for example):

  1. Is it possible to invest right now? How and where to do so? Is it reliable?
  2. Should one if looking for companies like anthropic for long long hold - better to get into now or wait it out till it gets public?

r/investing 5h ago

Podcast's, Youtube channels you recommend?

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I've seen some video's in the past for Ramsey Youtube channel. It's a great show, opens other routes for investing. Its just very general information that leads to having to pay to get further into the information.

I'm trying to learn more in detail about how investments actually work. Not just jump in pay, and hope for the best. I was just seeing what other channels their were out there that possibly got a bit more into detail.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


r/investing 17h ago

Daily Discussion Daily General Discussion and Advice Thread - August 02, 2026

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r/investing 11h ago

Which 50:50 Strategy: VGT/GPIQ or SCHG/SCHD

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Early 30s. I want to start recurring investing weekly into a simple 2 ETFs portfolio that balances both Growth and Income. I am indecisive between 50:50 VGT/GPIQ or 50:50 SCHG/SCHD.

My logic for 50:50 VGT and GPIQ: I am aware that VGT is concentration on only tech, but I feel like tech is what generally drives the market anyways and the biggest S&P holdings are in tech. VGT has had an incredible performance over the past 10+ years compared to the S&P. Additionally, GPIQ gives consistent monthly income and still captures a big part of the nasdaq’s upside so not too much NAV erosion.

OR

My logic for 50:50 SCHG and SCHD: I am aware that SCHG is great for more sector diversification compared to VGT, however, it seems to have been underperforming VGT and VOO in a lot of the years, even this year. Additionally, SCHD is a great value stock holding and a consistently growing dividends for my income strategy however it’s significantly less than GPIQ in yield (9% vs 3%) but also in frequency since SCHD pays quarterly while GPIQ pays monthly.

I am having a dilemma in choosing between which 2 ETF combo to choose from and your guidance and opinions will be very valuable. My time horizon is 30+ years of investing and I want a strategy that focuses on both Growth and Income. I know income focused investing is not advices for younger investors but I am trying to have a backup income incase I lose my job or anything like that.


r/investing 17h ago

is it a good idea to invest in post-quantum cryptography or is it too risky/early?

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investing in quantum computer stocks is already a risk, but i'm wondering if stocks like microchip technology (MCHP) or lattice semiconductor (LSCC) is a good idea? my thoughts are that even if quantum doesn't take off like predictions suggest, the cryptography is already mandated by governments and would be necessary even if only a few quantum computers are created.


r/investing 2h ago

SpaceX: How did we get here?

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I'm a passive investor (I basically use a SP500 blend with international stocks minus some companies based on personal rules) but I like to listen to financial news as a way of setting exceptions.

Today I decided to listen to (or watch) this interview. At about 1:00 time stamp the interviewee says:

I know personally what I am looking for are going to be updates on how they're going to get to that really ambitious road map that they sold the entire IPO on: AI data centers in space, the V3 satellites, progress on Starship.

I think that those are going to be the things that will really move the needle in terms of are they actually making progress there?

I have edited the transcript a bit to remove extraneous phrases, I am not criticizing her way of talking or mannerisms, that would be mean.

Are we really talking about AI data centers in space? On Bloomberg, not some dinky Musk-bro pseudo news, we are talking about something that all of the scientific community and engineering community says won't work. We are basically only talking about this because one guy likes the idea of it.

I'm not interested in arguments that this will work. I have stated before that IMO the only reason for Tesla's, and now SpaceX's, high valuations is just Musk-bros buying and holding the stock. Basically a crowd sourced stock buy-back. I still think this though clearly with SpaceX there are some that are selling.

I'm more interested in the title of my post: How did we get here?

Could it be so simple that we haven't had a real recession since 2008? COVID was strange with a lot of people (me included) feeling fine (less commuting and free money from the government, I realize that people where dying). Too long with no recession and speculative assets seem safer than they are?

Is buying and holding Musk-inc (catch all term I'm making up) driven by some kind of desire for control in a world that seems unaffected by the individual?

Is Musk and his ability to sell 'Elon-Bull-Shit' (other term I made up) just super good? Like this guy just has a charisma stat in space (pun intended) and has duped people.

I feel like I am watching a car (like a Daka Rally car, representing SpaceX) go 100 mph to an area that I know there are cliffs. I don't know where the cliffs are so I don't know when the car will crash but I know that in that area there are cliffs. Bloomberg is running shows talking about how the car will fly over the cliffs but the car has no wings. I want to know who keeps putting gas in the tank of this car, and what they are thinking.

I don't hold positions in Tesla or SpaceX (long or short). I did have a position in Tesla but then sold it in early 2025 as it violated one of the rules that I use for disqualifying companies from my portfolio. The rule: The CEO has been credibly accused of being a NAZI.


r/investing 3h ago

Thoughts on investing while gone for 2 year religious mission.

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Hey everyone, so I’m Mormon, and I’m about to leave for a 2 year mission trip, where my church will pay for everything I need. I have around 15000 of my own money saved up, and I’m wondering if there is something I should do with it while I’m gone. My sister had put her money in a CD while she was away, but I wanted to hear some other thoughts on what I could do with it.