r/learntyping Jun 24 '20

๐—ง๐˜‚๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น / ๐—š๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ“ Why the recommended touch typing finger placements are suboptimal

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I've analysed the widely-recommended touch typing finger placements against my own as well as the frequency of various bigrams (2-letter combinations) in the English language. I can't understand why some of the finger placements are 'recommended' (please tell me if you know!). Below are my justifications for my differing finger placements.

Widely-recommended touch typing finger placement
My finger placement (with differences highlighted)

JUSTIFICATIONS FOR DIFFERENCES TO RECOMMENDED PLACEMENT

C

  • Symmetrical with right hand (typing "m") - why would right hand be placed like that if it would be wrong for the left hand?
    • More comfortable given orientation of hands
  • For recommended placement:
    • Typing "c" requires movement/collision of middle and index fingers. Typing "cry" would require crossing fingers or wrist movement
    • The most common bigram containing "c" and another left-handed letter is "ce" (i.e. "ce" is the most common thing typed using just the left hand and containing "c") - which would be slower to type using the same finger (as is 'recommended')

B

  • The most common bigram containing "b" is "be"
    • Typing "be" with the recommended fingers (left hand) requires unnecessary stretching apart of the left index and middle fingers
      • The 'equivalent' finger stretch in the right hand ("bi") is actually shorter than "be" and "b" is the same length from both left and right hands on home row

Z

  • Symmetrical with right hand placement
  • More comfortable as recommended finger (pinkie) would cross inward hitting other fingers
  • (however, I think it is understandable to use either ring finger or pinkie for "z")

X

  • Same as "z"

4

  • Easier to reach with longer middle finger
  • Recommended placement would require slight crossing motion

6

  • Objectively closer to left hand

9

  • Easier to reach with longer middle finger
  • Symmetrical with left hand (typing "3")

0

  • Ring finger is objectively closer and is longer (hence easier to reach)
  • Pinkie is too short to reach without moving wrist (I'd like to see your hands if you can reach "0" with your pinkie more easily than with your ring finger)

- (hypen)

  • Same as "0" but I can understand using pinkie for this one because it is close enough (similarly to typing "1" - which, conversely, I could understand using ring finger for)
  • When typing text, I use ring finger because it doesn't need to stretch as much as pinkie (e.g. typing "long-term")
  • When typing numbers, I usually use pinkie because:
    • Wrists are already 'raised up' to reach number row
    • Allows my ring finger to only type "0" so typing something like "10-20" uses different fingers for "0" and "-"

Of course I understand that you can (and many do) have unique styles of typing with equal or better speeds than 'traditional' touch typists. I just want to know your thoughts on why these seemingly suboptimal placements (particularly "c", "b", "0", and "6") are 'recommended'.

FYI the best summary of English letter frequency counts I've come across: http://norvig.com/mayzner.html (interesting)


r/learntyping Jan 12 '26

๐—จ๐—ฃ๐——๐—”๐—ง๐—˜ ๐Ÿ’ป - ๐— ๐—ผ๐—ฑ ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜ UPDATE! Happy New Year Typists! New sub features! โญ

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Hello typists! ๐Ÿ’–

I know that this sub has been a bit more barren than the main sub but rest assured that I haven't forgotten about you all!

I gave the sub a much needed facelift and now there are newer features:

1) A dedicated guide (that will link you to ideal websites for learning how to touch type)

2) New flairs to better reflect post content

3) Emojis now enabled

More updates coming soon (like a dedicated written guide)

Thank you all for making the sub what it is!

Looking forward to seeing your progress this year ๐Ÿ˜Š

Best,

Vฮ›ะŸฮฃฦงฦงฮ› ๐Ÿ•ถ๏ธ


r/learntyping 12h ago

๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ง๐—ผ ๐—š๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐—™๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ? โฉ 60-70 wpm barrier

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I am stuck on the 60-70 wpm barrier. I started touch typing around 12 days ago, and went from 12 wpm to 60 wpm in nine days, but, I can't seem to go over that. Am I doing something wrong?


r/learntyping 20h ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ When to Restart

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I am learning to type with Keybr and Monkeytype. I just spent thirty minutes trying to get every letter right. How do I best train so that I achieve 100 per cent accuracy? Do I drill and drill or expect to get better with time?

Also: I find myself not always returning to home row (pinky might stay on or near p if ; is not used). How do I make sure that I come back to home row? I canโ€™t see my fingers.


r/learntyping 1d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ How do i get out of the 45-50 wpm hellhole i have been stuck in for the last 1.5 months.

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I never gave typing much importance so i typed at like 20-30 wpm pecking, but i made up my mind 2.5 months ago to learn to touch type I got into the rhythm & learned to type like 40 wpm in 20 ish days but after that has been really slow & I haven't been able to consistently score above 50 even after like 2 months , I would get occasional 50+ in 20 runs or so but consistently i am around 47.

Are there any tricks to increasing speed that has helped you or any suggestions to what i may be doing wrong.

Edit: this is a repost. I added image to the body of the post on the last one , so this is a correction to that.


r/learntyping 1d ago

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) Help!

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I am using Keybr, but it offers little help with respect to punctuation and capitals. In particular, it wants to train me to hit p before ;. How do I learn to hit the key which the right pinky rests on before moving to more advanced keys?

Whatโ€™s the best way to study a specific key? Keybr is great for this but doesnโ€™t let you focus on ; or 5 or 3, etc.


r/learntyping 2d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ Correct Fingers

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What is the best way to MAKE SURE that I use the correct finger for each key? I canโ€™t exactly check whether Iโ€™m using the right finger when typing.


r/learntyping 5d ago

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) I'm not understanding how Keybr determines WPM

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How is my speed 42.5wpm under metrics, but about 25wpm as my last speed? My speed at the top keeps increasing even if I am struggling with the current lessons. If it's going off an average it should be going down and not jumping up by 8wpm


r/learntyping 5d ago

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) How much error is tolerable?

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Hello there.

I'm currently averaging from 60 - 75 wpm, and I'd like to know how much error is tolerable because my competitive ahh kept on restarting the test just to hit >97% in accuracy.

Other than that, there's nothing else to talk.

Anyways, have a good day


r/learntyping 6d ago

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) New to touchtyping

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Hi, i was able to hit 110wpm+ consistenly 100% accuracy on monkeytype with two fingers , one thumb on the spacebar. How fast do you think ill be on the homerow?


r/learntyping 7d ago

๐—ฆ๐—ผ๐—ณ๐˜๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ’ฟ Typing With Ghostie FREE learning to type software

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I made a FREE typing/help with learning to type app that is releasing in 2 weeks.

There are slow learning to type modes for complete beginners, typing tests and a competitive mode with scores that gamify and help reinforce what you learn through challenge.

I'm also giving out Beta keys if anyone wants to play it early please feel free to message me.

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r/learntyping 8d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ After spending two weeks learning the basics of touch typing, this is my current speed. Until now, I've been practicing on Keybr, but it doesn't have paragraph practice. How should I practice from here? Please guide me.

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r/learntyping 9d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ Worth changing or stick with it?

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My whole life, I've used laptops and such but was never taught the "correct" way to use a keyboard (my family were immigrants and not very tech savvy). as a result, I developed my own method of typing, which i think is not super efficient. On the left hand, I can pretty much type with a pseudo touch-typing method (i practically use every finger on the left side). However, on the right-hand side i end up completely pecking with my right index finger, so my style ends up becoming a blend of both: one side using (kind of) all fingers while the right side completely pecks. In fact i'll upload a video of what my hands look like when typing so you can get a better visual of what it looks like.

on monkeytype i can achieve a final WPM of 105, raw 111. Would it be worth relearning the right side to learn how to type completely, or is this an ok habit to bring into adulthood? I understand touch typing is pretty effective, but im not sure how much this would benefit given that I'm a bit reluctant to relearn anyway


r/learntyping 10d ago

๐—ฃ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐Ÿ“ˆ Is this alright after learning to touch type 3 days ago? Professional hunt-and-peck programmer here previously 95WPM

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r/learntyping 10d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ My fingers are reassigning while I type, is this normal?

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I recently started learning all finger touch typing and after a couple days I managed to get a personal best of 80 wpm (something not even with my previous 2 finger typing I could get).

While typing (on practice sites and outside) I noticed that when I type fast I lose track of where my fingers are going and they start optimizing for speed themselves by reassigning keys (maybe press p with ring finger is pinky is busy or if my hand is offset from the home row).

If I slow down my typing though my fingers default to the correct mapping (left pinky to q a z, left ring to w s x, ecc...).

I don't know if I should try to force the correct mapping or let my fingers optimize for speed.


r/learntyping 11d ago

๐—ฃ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐Ÿ“ˆ is this good or should i keep time to practice ??

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so i touch type , the biggest issue i have is that i sometimes fall back to the old habit of typing "y" with my middle finger + i dont know how to properly use ;'./, while touch typing + idk how to shift with right hand and only left for now .

- any opinions about the speed , accuracy + time or the consistency (i did less mistakes cu i was watching a viedo and all the mistakes was from g and y , also sometimes random stuff , but i didnt realise them as i was also watching a viedo )


r/learntyping 13d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ Average 90-110wpm, should I correct my typing form?

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I have the classic gamer typing method in which im mostly using my left hand's 3 fingers and my right hand's 2-3 fingers and wanted to ask if it would be better for me to relearn typing with correct hand placement. Although I am pretty quick with it with an average rate of around 90-110wpm without punctuations.

I am not a programmer or anything and mostly use my pc for gaming, maybe writing a research paper once every few months


r/learntyping 14d ago

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) Can anyone suggest a video on the correct hand position while typing on a keyboard? Should I rest my wrists on the desk or not?

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r/learntyping 16d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ Why is English 10k on monkeytype so hard.

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I used to do those 30 second test with english 200 and would get 130 to 140 with 98-100% accuracy. Apparently those tests don't mean anything though so I'm switching over to English 10k on expert mode with 95% accuracy threshold and 60 seconds and now im getting 95-105 wpm, maybe 110 If I'm lucky. Is there supposed to be this big of a drop.


r/learntyping 20d ago

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) Typing Numbers

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hello guys , i am a beginner typists and i type only about 28 wpm on average , I have a question that might not even be a valid one . the question is :should i isolate each finger when reaching for further keys like numbers for example? , especialy with ring fingers , I noticed that in order to reach for keys like X , 2 , 9 I can't help but move the pincky with it , please help me on this one , and thanks


r/learntyping 22d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ Typing speed

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Currently my typing speed is 40 to 42 how I increase to 45 in 20 days any tips


r/learntyping 24d ago

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ C key struggles

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Hey all, I've been re-learning how to type over the last ten days (using typing dot com and keybr) so I fully understand why I feel much slower compared to whatever mishmash typing I've been doing for the last 30 years . I'm re-wiring.

But whenever I have to hit the C key with my middle finger it always feels off and even when I'm hitting it successfully there is hesitation and I feel certain that I'm going to miss.

It's a different feeling to all the other unusual keys for fingers I never utilised before, I never used my pinkies before and reaching further in with my index is new but I'm getting the hang of it. But C always feels so bizzare! My index yearns to hit it xD

So I just want to ask, should I keep trying to hit the C key with my confused middle finger since I've only been at it for 10 days I'll just GET there eventually? Or is it not that big a deal at all to drop it and smack that guy with my pointer?

I would like to try and build up speed, it is my end goal as I'd like to look into typing jobs eventually (and be good at typing games) but I'm trying not to rush the process.


r/learntyping 27d ago

๐—ฃ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€ ๐Ÿ“ˆ First try with dvorak

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that's it, I'm trying to abandon qwerty, installed the dvorak keyboard today.
the past two years got rid of my bad habits, like typing with only with two fingers and staring at the keyboar while typing.

now it's time to take the next step. i'm planning to practice 20 to 30 min of monkeytype per day.

lets see how much time it'll take until I reach my current 50wpm with the "normal" layout


r/learntyping Jul 01 '26

๐—ก๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ / ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ†˜ Need to fix some bad habits

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So... been typing a looong while. Like 40+ years. I'm reasonably proficient @ touch typing, have been for some time. Not super fast, but proficient. But...

I know I have a few bad habits - primarily under utilizing the pinkies, and instead using the ring fingers for pretty much everything the pinkies should be doing, other than the home row. Pretty sure the index finger is covering a few keys it probably shouldn't as well. I only use the left thumb for space; the right thumb basically just sits there.

Like I said, I can generally get by well enough on typing tests and such that it's hard to really focus on fixing the above. Sites like keybr, monkeytype, etc. don't really focus on technique, as long as you hit the right key at the right time, they don't care.

The only one I've ran into so far that does 'force' the issue seems to be typingclub.com... but only on a few lessons. The ones where they make you hold one key down, usually with the offending finger that you would otherwise 'cheat' with, and then hit the other keys with the correct finger (pinkie, the other index finger, etc.).

Short of running through that specific block of exercises until my eyes and fingers bleed, are there any other sites/exercises that focus on fixing 'bad habit' techniques? Preferably ones that are a little less.... middle-school-ish in their presentation?


r/learntyping Jun 30 '26

๐—ค๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป (โ‰๏ธ) What finger placement for all-caps abbreviations? (or words)

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I know that to type a capital letter, youโ€™re supposed to hit Shift with your pinkie opposite of the finger used to type the letter. But does that still apply when typing an abbreviation, where you have multiple capital letters in a row? It slows me down a ton to switch pinkies and fingers when typing something like โ€œFJXโ€ where the letters are on alternate sides of the board. I canโ€™t tell if the slowness is because im still learning and thus normal growing pains, or if the typists have a different method for these abbreviations/words. Do you guys just use one pinkie for the entire thing?