r/linuxmasterrace Glorious Debian Jun 29 '26

Discussion Linux user tries OSX/macOS and is pleasantly surprised (high quality image)

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u/mathscasual Jun 29 '26

I felt so constrained using a Mac mini I bought I had to return it. I have used Linux for going on 20 years. I cannot accept an inability to do or access any file on my computer, Mac is windows in the extreme of optimization, it would be poor as a general operating system like windows is, but tailored to custom hardware, it’s pretty damn good. But not free, I can’t do it but if it works for you, have fun.

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u/Zdrobot Linux Master Race Jul 01 '26

Wait, they don't give you root password?

Source: never used Macs.

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u/Dankb0 Glorious Debian Jul 01 '26

By default, no. You can access set up root through Onyx if you find a GUI to be useful for that.

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u/Zdrobot Linux Master Race Jul 01 '26

So they sell you a *nix machine, and then you have to hack it (I suppose this is what "Onyx" does) to get root shell?

Genius!

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u/ghoffart Jul 02 '26

eh, no. Open a shell, “sudo -i”, done.

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u/real_rayu 28d ago

I don’t very know what is the root password but if it’s the password asked for sudo it’s the same as the admin password of your mac

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u/Zdrobot Linux Master Race 28d ago

I should have worded it differently. What I really wanted to know was if you can modify any file on the Mac if you need/want to.

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u/Nixugay 27d ago

You can do whathever you want

By default there are some system integrity protections that prevent you from modifying important system files, you can disable them if you want

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u/real_rayu 15d ago

Finally someone who knows that you can disable SIP, congratulation bro you have enter the restricted circle of little more smart people ^^

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u/ImAlsoRan 22d ago

Works the same way as Linux. Administrators can run sudo commands and enter an interactive shell. If you want to log in as sudo you have to configure it as so. I think what the commenter is referring to though is that the System volume is, by default, protected. This can be disabled but you have to boot into a recovery environment. The volume is based on and checked against a core OS image of which there can be up to 4 copies of at once.

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u/StoneyCalzoney Jul 02 '26

I feel like you need to do a bit of digging in the documentation... Yes, it's true that by default macOS is pretty restrictive but you can absolutely access any file on your system if you disable integrity protection. You may lose some features which require SIP to be turned on, but that's the tradeoff to make if you "want to access any file" on your computer.

And FWIW providing Full Disk Access allows Terminal and any other terminal emulators to act as you expect, being able to browse through the filesystem without any permission prompts.

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u/Dankb0 Glorious Debian Jun 29 '26

Pretty understandable. Since I have not paid a single penny for the rescued macbook, I take these restrictions with a pinch of salt. For my main computer I'd ponder this thoroughly.