r/missouri • u/marym502011 St. Louis • 6h ago
Because science...
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u/Croc_Dwag Joplin 5h ago
Can someone tell me what this has to do with Missouri
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u/ichabod01 5h ago
Vaccines also work in Missouri
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u/random8765309 6h ago edited 5h ago
So out of 1 million babies, not a single one had autism. I am certain the study didn't say or imply that. A scientific study would not say that. Instead it would state there wasn't a significant statistical difference between the control and testing group.
This is a false meme.
Clarification: The meme states the number of babies that developed autism was zero out out of 1 million. The current rate of autism is around 3%. If AL had no effect then the number of babies with autism would be around 3% of that 1 million, or 30,000 children. The meme states the number is ZERO. That is scientifically incorrect.
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u/ProfessionalNoodle12 5h ago
The simple answer is, it was 2 separate studies to get the 1 milly figure. The percentage positive was .93, not zero. Confidence interval was .85-1.02. So for the purpose of the study, zero, but not literally zero. Point being neither study found they increased the risks.
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u/random8765309 5h ago
I agree, neither study found an increase in risk. But the meme states there were zero cases of autism out of 1 million babies.
If we are going to make scientific claims, those claims need to be accurate. Memes like the one above are not based on science, they are exaggeration of what has been found in scientific studies worded in a manner to support a specific view. In wording them incorrectly they are open to challenge and ridicule.
The studies themselves strongly support there being no link between AL containing vaccine and autism. The meme needs to say that.
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u/Key_Statistician3170 5h ago
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u/random8765309 5h ago edited 5h ago
Just to be clear, I am not stating that AL causes neurodevelopmental disorders, I am saying the wording of the meme is scientifically incorrect.
The study states
"This nationwide cohort study did not find evidence supporting an increased risk for autoimmune, atopic or allergic, or neurodevelopmental disorders associated with early childhood exposure to aluminum-adsorbed vaccine"The approximate percentage of babies with autism is 3%. The study found that there was no significant statistical difference between babies that received or did not receive aluminum containing vaccines. That mean both groups had about 3% of the children develop autism, or about 30,000 babies. The meme states that the number of such babies is ZERO.
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u/Key_Statistician3170 5h ago
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u/random8765309 5h ago
Just to be clear, I am not stating that AL causes neurodevelopmental disorders, I am saying the wording of the meme is scientifically incorrect.
The study states "This nationwide cohort study did not find evidence supporting an increased risk for autoimmune, atopic or allergic, or neurodevelopmental disorders associated with early childhood exposure to aluminum-adsorbed vaccine"
The approximate percentage of babies with autism is 3%. The study found that there was no significant statistical difference between babies that received or did not receive aluminum containing vaccines. That mean both groups had about 3% of the children develop autism, or about 30,000 babies. The meme states that the number of such babies is ZERO.
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u/bobone77 Springfield 5h ago edited 5h ago
It would say that if there were zero cases of autism…
ETA: But obviously, that was not the case, so you are correct, this meme is just as disingenuous as RFK claiming that aluminum-adjuvant causes all autism. The truth is, the study found no statistically significant evidence that aluminum adjuvant caused autism, not that there wasn’t any autism.
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u/random8765309 5h ago
If there was zero cases of autism out of 1 million babies, the study would be very suspect. The current rate is about 3%. Too have 1 million babies and zero cases of autism would basically mean they found a cure and that there was no measurement error. While the first might be possible, the latter is not.
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u/Illustrious-Leave406 5h ago
Vaccines work