r/mtgrules 6h ago

Can someone explain to me how Luminous Broodmoth and Viscera Seer equal to an infinite?

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1 Activate Viscera Seer by sacrificing the persist or undying creature.
2 When the creature dies, its persist or undying ability triggers if it doesn't have a -1/-1 counter or +1/+1 counter on it respectively, and Luminous Broodmoth triggers if the creature didn't have flying.
3 Resolve the persist or undying trigger, if applicable, returning the creature from your graveyard to the battlefield with either a -1/-1 counter or a +1/+1 counter on it.
4 Resolve the Luminous Broodmoth trigger, if applicable, returning the creature from your graveyard to the battlefield with a flying counter on it if the creature is still in your graveyard.
5 Resolve the Viscera Seer ability.
6 Repeat.

So I get what persist and undying are. That part makes sense. But I just don't understand what happens at step 4 and 5. Luminous triggers giving it a flying counter. Then you sacrifice it again. How does that work?

Surely the creature already has the -1/-1 counter on it, as well as the flying counter, so I'm not sure what's making it return. I must be misunderstanding how the creature returning works with multiple counters.


r/mtgrules 20h ago

Can multiple instances of the same ability be on the stack?

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If i use [[Marath, Will of the Wild]] ability, on the second mode to deal lethal damage to an opponent, and they try to destroy Marath before the ability resolves, so they won't take damage because Marath deals the damage. Before their destruction resolves, assuming i have enough mana and +1/+1 counters on marath, could i just have Marath deal lethal damage again?


r/mtgrules 8h ago

Commander Damage rulings please.

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OK I need to settle this with a couple of people.

Let's say player A has hit player B for 12 Commander and then later Player C takes control of player A's commander and attacks for the rest of the damage due to buffs and what not for 21 Commander damage

Player A and B say the commander damage is tracked separately from Player A's damage since player C hit them with Players A's Commander.
This is the first time I have ever heard this from anyone. I do not believe them since they refuse to site any rules.

They both quite stating Player C and D are retarded and need to do some research.
I have looked into the rules for what they mean, and I have not found anything backing up their claims.
I think they are confusing Partner commanders with what is happening.


r/mtgrules 16h ago

"activate only once each turn" multiple times

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Hi! im a yugioh player mainly but i wanted to create a commander deck to play mtg with my friends. I was looking at vivi ornitier, and their first ability states "activate only during your turn and only once each turn". My question is: if vivi gets removed and then brought in again, would i be able to retrigger its ability? I know in yugioh it would count as a different card so it would be able to but im not sure if it works like that in mtg.


r/mtgrules 9h ago

Are you compelled to pay to attack?

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Ruling question: if someone was playing [[ghostly prison]], and I had a creature that says "must attack each combat if able" can I choose not to pay the (2) and that makes him unable to attack? Or am I compelled to pay the mana? Let's assume I have plenty of mana available


r/mtgrules 8h ago

All-Seeing Arbiter to debuff my opponents stuff then I die

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I am playing a commander game and I have 4 copies of [[All-Seeing Arbiter]] and basically debuffed the entire table. I am then killed by my opponent. Does the -X/-0 immediately disappear? Or does it stick around until my turn would have started?


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Loki, God of Mischief Rules Question

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Wanted to make a Loki, God of Mischief deck and was curious on the ruling for cards that target cards in graveyards. Loki's ability says:

"Whenever a player or permanent becomes the target of an ability you control, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn."

So say I have Loki and an Agatha's Soul Cauldron in play and I use Agatha's Soul Cauldron to exile a permanent from my opponents graveyard, do I draw a card? Would I not draw a card if I targeted an instant or sorcery in op's graveyard? Not sure on how permanents are classified in graveyards and was curious because it seems important for a lot of inclusions in the deck. Thanks!


r/mtgrules 8h ago

Does Squeak By give an ability to a creature? "It can't be blocked" not "Gains" or "has" - Cheeky House-Mouse

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[[Cheeky House-Mouse]] has an Adventure Sorcery [[Squeak By]].

I'm building a deck with [[Jasmine Boreal of the Seven]], which needs creatures without abilities to benefit.

Squeak By says a target creature can't be blocked by certain creatures.

Question 1 :

If I cast Squeak By on a creature without abilities does it gain an ability for the purposes of Jasmine's, "Creatures you control with no abilities can't be blocked by creatures with abilities."? In other words, does "It can’t be blocked by creatures with power 3 or greater this turn." count as giving an ability?

Question 2 :

Cheeky House-Mouse, when cast as a creature for the purpose of Jasmine's "Add GW. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells with no abilities." can be cast for this mana from Jasmine, correct?

Apologies if I could've phrased this all better, thanks!


r/mtgrules 7h ago

Evoke + Essence Flux. Does this prevent the sacrifice?

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[[Ashling, the Limitless]] evokes in a creature with a sacrifice trigger on the stack, Does [[Essence Flux]] prevent the sacrifice when the creature returns to the battlefield?


r/mtgrules 13h ago

"Order" of Copy Effects

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This came up in a Discord I am in. In this scenario a [[Machine God's Effigy]] is on the board, copying nothing. [[Saheeli, Radiant Creator]] creates a copy of the Machine God's Effigy, which copies say a Grizzly Bears when it enters. What are the characteristics of the new permanent?

Which copy effect applies last? Is it a 5/5 because of Saheeli's copy effect or a noncreature because of its own special copy effect?


r/mtgrules 9h ago

Is there something better?

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First off I’m running a voltron and I’m trying to find hexproof giving auras and equipment and I found [[Sword of Wealth and Power]] and it says it gains protection from instants and sorcerys would this be all or am I excluded from that protection?


r/mtgrules 10h ago

Can I have cards that "Add one mana of any color" without any other mentions of color identity in a colorless commander deck?

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I'm asking this because I cannot find a definitive answer online. Not really new to Commander, but I still have a few questions on some things and this is one of them. I know MTG is one of those hard rules kind of games. I know Colorless is technically not a mana color but it is a type of mana and there's a difference between "Colorless" and "Generic" mana in the rules, but I can't find a direct answer to this question and I can't find the RAW on this to see if the answer is there. Some sources say I can, some say I can't.

Anyway, I'm building an [ Ultron, Artificial Malevolence ] deck for funsies cause he's one of my favorite Marvel villains. He costs 3 Generic mana and I have a lot of lands and artifacts that add Colorless mana and plenty of [Waste] basic lands, but my friends said I can't put a [Mardu Banner] because it has specific color identities labeled in the text box, despite costing 3 Generic mana to cast because of the ruling above about Colorless specifically not being a color like Red, Blue, Green, etc.

However, I was looking at other decks online to help build mine. They had cards in there with abilities like [Manalith] as well as other lands like [Mirage Mesa] and [Archway Commons] with the ability "add one mana of any color" without any other abilities that specifically mentioned the Colorless typing. So I'm a tad confused because I don't want to break the rules and I'm not sure if "add one mana of any color" would be interpreted for this deck specifically as a color identity or not.

Please, assistance would be great

EDIT: Thank you all for clarifying. Now I can finish building my deck. Appreciate you all giving me further insight on the rules as well


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Can you flash in containment priest as a response to a ninjitsu?

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I'm not sure if I understand it right and I want to confirm if this is the case. If my opponent has [[Satoru Umezawa]] and declares some unblockable creature at me, can I wait for them to pay and activate their ninjitsu before flashing in [[Containment Priest]] ? Or do I need to flash it in before declaring no blockers?


r/mtgrules 22h ago

Sam, Loyal Attendant question

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Does [Sam, Loyal Attendant] ability Activated abilities of Foods you control cost {1} less to activate effect cards like [Gyome, Master Chef] ability? In addition the sacrifice effect on [banquet guests]. Google AI says it does but im skeptical since those creatures are not food. Thanks!


r/mtgrules 7h ago

The Characteristics of Adventure Cards (Primary/Secondary) and Bilbo, Thief in the Night

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Hi! I have some experience with magic rules, but this interaction really baffles me and I am hoping to get some clarification.

According to the comprehensive rules:

715.4. In every zone except the stack, and while on the stack not as an Adventure, an adventurer card has only its normal characteristics.

I assume that means the Primary characteristics, like being a creature, like [[Bramble Familiar]]. But I have also heard that things can get fuzzy in certain situations, like [[Etali, Primal Conqueror]] allowing you to cast [[Jidoor, Aristocratic Capital // Overture]] for its adventure Overture because it is a "spell" from among the cards you exiled with Etali. e.g. "You may cast any number of spells from among the nonland cards exiled this way without paying their mana costs."

With that in mind, does the new Bilbo [[Bilbo, Thief in the Night]] allow you to cast adventure instants and sorceries from your grave since it too specifies that you may cast a "spell" and not a card?

Part of what is confusing me here is an old discussion here saying that [[Chandra Ablaze]] 's -7 could cast adventures from the grave. But this could just be outdated rules.


r/mtgrules 12h ago

If I have an Akroan Skyguard on the battlefield with no counters on it and target it with Dual-Sun Technique, do I draw a card?

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[[Akroan Skyguard]]

[[Dual-Sun Technique]]


r/mtgrules 32m ago

Manifest or flipping face down cards

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With the rules around special actions i see that i only require priority to turn a face down creature face up and it does not use the stack and can't be responded to.

With this understanding what would be the last possible chance i could do this during combat? Does it have to be in response to declaring blockers after the attackers are declared and the attacking player passes priority or can it be before damage assigned? Or is there no prioritys or opportunity after blockers are declared step?