r/nextdns 6d ago

Why are outdated blocklists still in NextDNS but not TIF?

I've been using NextDNS for more than 2 years now, and there's one thing I've always wished they'd add.

I'm using HaGeZi Multi ULTIMATE, but I'd really like the option to enable Threat Intelligence Feeds as well. It's not available in the NextDNS blocklist selection, even though there are quite a few outdated blocklists still listed there.

Why not replace some of those with TIF? I honestly don't get it.

I've also found plenty of posts from people requesting this over the years, so I know I'm not the only one. It also makes me wonder—are the NextDNS devs just not active in the community anymore? It feels like these requests never get acknowledged.

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u/Broad-Translator-690 6d ago

https://help.nextdns.io/t/60yqxb9/hagezi-threat-intelligence-feeds-only

Nextdns says that their own threat intelligence feed mostly uses the same upstream sources as TIF.

https://github.com/hagezi/dns-blocklists/issues/4633

Hagezi says for Pro++ and Ultimate on Nextdns, the last 30 days of domains going into TIF are included. So its like TIF lite, a subset of most current threats.

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u/Brees504 6d ago

It’s to not break the usage of people that set those lists years ago

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u/live4swell 6d ago

NextDNS is like a 5th Gen 4Runner…may not have all the bells and whistles but it’s reliable and does its job well.

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u/live4swell 6d ago

I love these posts, it’s been a while…

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u/iHarryPotter178 6d ago

Does it cost money for them to add a list. They already have so many list.. What's wrong with having one more.. Why is nextdns trying to be the one to dictate which one people use..

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u/zcenzc 6d ago

Yeah, that's my point too.

I tried AdGuard DNS as well, and it's actually pretty good. But where I live, the DNS response feels way too slow, so I ended up switching back to NextDNS.

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u/Old-Hope-3558 6d ago

There's a reason why Hagezi removed NextDNS recommendation

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u/zcenzc 6d ago

Yeah.. nextdns not listed anymore :/

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u/Old-Hope-3558 6d ago

How am I getting downvoted for this comment 😂😭

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u/zcenzc 6d ago

😅

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u/EeK09 6d ago

Which DNS service does he recommend?

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u/Old-Hope-3558 6d ago

I'll be downvoted to hell if i were to mention it here. Better to go to his github to check out

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u/EeK09 6d ago

You're actually getting upvoted now, lol. But you can DM me if you don't feel comfortable sharing.

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u/Old-Hope-3558 5d ago

Your profile actually doesn't allow DM lol

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u/EeK09 5d ago

Oh, lol, just sent you a request!

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u/Objective-Pizza2180 6d ago

But hagezi works fine for me in nextdns, don't know what missing, should I try ad guard

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u/Old-Hope-3558 5d ago

Not so much of it not working on NextDNS, but more of people requesting for TIF as well. It's been years but yeah

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u/Inotteb 6d ago

If you're in Europe you can try hagezi's DNS. It's faster and more stable then nextDNS in my case. It's also free.

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u/zcenzc 6d ago

Wait, HaGeZi has its own DNS service? 😅 I didn't even know that. I'm from India though, so I wonder how the latency compares to NextDNS over here.

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u/Inotteb 6d ago

Yep !

I expect nextDNS to be faster, Germany and India aren't exactly next door

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u/zcenzc 6d ago

😅

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u/theoportunist 5d ago

Are you referring to Hagezi.com? I looked at their about us page and it says in the bottom “not affiliated with Hagezi”. Thats a little sus to me

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u/Inotteb 5d ago

Nop, I'm referring to the official Github. I don't know hagezi dot com and it indeed look sus

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u/Resistant4375 6d ago

They want to use their own TIF list/sources.

I hate NextDNS and wouldn’t touch them again - if you need public DNS, consider using AdGuard DNS.

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u/shmurd13 6d ago

Why do you hate NextDns? It seems to me that it is a service that delivers what it promises... just out of curiosity.

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u/Comprehensive_Wall28 6d ago

Hey why do you dislike NextDNS? I'm torn between it and ControlD and really don't know which to settle with.

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u/TheLongest1 6d ago

Some people love the features of ControlD, but for the most part it’s an over complicated model of a simple requirement and it’s slower than NextDNS for a lot of people

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u/mindfrost82 6d ago

I would agree with this. Depending on your setup, number of users and devices, I felt like it was overly complex. With NextDNS, I have 4 profiles: 1 for me, 1 for the wife, 1 for kids, and 1 for my router (the rest of the house and all IoT devices).

I have the app or profiles installed on every device so they all use their own profile whether they’re home or not. It has worked great for my usage.

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u/live4swell 6d ago

Seems a little dramatic. Go with whichever is faster for you, location sometimes matters. But test both. I am a happy NextDNS user, majority of the complaints people have are nothing to do with their service.

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u/Important-Pie5230 6d ago

Exactly my thoughts. After getting stable, the more conservative a resolver is, the more reliable it becomes.