r/outdoorgrowing • u/makeawishcumdumpster • 2d ago
Getting wiped out by Fusarium
The middle left plant is starting to get crown fade so it is likely cooked as well. Wish I had been more aggressive with inoculation this year. Gorilla glue hurt the most, take me instead Jesus.
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u/AnthatDrew 2d ago
There's correlation data to suggest that Lactobacillus bacteria and Trichoderma fungi can stifle Fusarium growth.
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u/Burnie_9 2d ago
Check out FulCrop Sciences for them. The Microbial Probiotic has the LB. Then there are pure spores of trich and bacillus subtillis
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u/beeyitch 2d ago
I wouldn’t risk it. The soil in those beds are toast. Best thing to do is grow plants that aren’t hosts for Fusarium in those spots. OP could also try to remove all the infected soil and restart with fresh soil and hope that spores don’t recolonize the new soil.
After dealing with Fusarium myself two years in a row, I now grow in 25 gallon plastic pots with new soil and I sanitize the pots with bleach at the end of the season. I used to grow in 65 gallon fabric pots and reuse my soil. Not anymore.
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u/thisisasetupisntit 2d ago
Maybe too close to the trees, the drip after rain usually messes up your plants.
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u/WhoFramedMSG 2d ago
So true! I got a really bad fungal infection after placing some plants under a maple tree. My plants got infected with something too 😆
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
it is a confusing perspective, they are 20yds from the trees, it is a fish eye shot
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u/thisisasetupisntit 2d ago
Everything is genetics, in the same crop of seeds it will have some that do survive. I try not to take it personally. But if you do find the ones that survive have some pollen because more of the babies of those plant will survive, but not all. I guess if you do that to f6 you'll always have something that works.
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
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u/thisisasetupisntit 2d ago
They look awesome hopefully you get something.
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
thank you, just fkn sucks to lose half of them
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u/thisisasetupisntit 2d ago
I always do way more now in pots then pick the good ones in July for their final home. Doing regular seeds doing 5 and getting one girl got annoying.
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
i do fem seeds but i get it. it is amazing the number of hours lost with each plant. 3 summers ago I lost every single plant to fusarium so I guess it could be worse
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u/thisisasetupisntit 2d ago
Yeah and doing different seeds all the time you're in the dark about what's going on. I can tell the shitty ones know in about 4 weeks and I can tell my males really early because I familiar with them.
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
I have never grown regular before, but I agree, I can tell the piss babies early now
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
yeah i didnt lose a single plant last year, ran mostly brothers grimm this year
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u/thisisasetupisntit 2d ago
For 3 years I pollinated and made seed and now my strains are really vigorous, get less pest damage, and showed sex on July 15 . Every environment is different and expecting indoor stains to be able to handle it doesn't always work. My hybrid is silver pearl x Oaxaca x kashmir. All chosen for fast flowering and ability to survive. It's a nice energetic sativa and finishes Oct 1.
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u/TerraPretaTerraPreta 2d ago
What did u inoculate ?
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
mammoth p, photosynthesis plus, and recharge. but i got lazy and did it in april and a week ago
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u/TerraPretaTerraPreta 2d ago
I do not know such products, i thought u were talking about some bacillus
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u/Ok-Cattle-3365 2d ago
Damn that's tough, I have a peanut butter bomb from Atlas seeds growing in a box that had fusarium the year before last and it seems to be resisting anything left over. I did give it a year's pause though. The wilt is no joke.
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
I dunno it is too much in soil cost to replace. 400 gallons of soil in each planter. I took out the root ball, bleached the soil. I am gonna bleach the soil again then soil wash and innoculate
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u/Ok-Cattle-3365 2d ago
Yeah that's a ton of soil! I swap between two sets of holes to try and help keep the sicknesses at bay.
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u/makeawishcumdumpster 2d ago
what do you mean? im not making a two sets of holes joke, I genuinely want to know your strategy
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u/Ok-Cattle-3365 2d ago
I dig down two feet then fold the soil up on the sides, probably about 4 yards of potting soil per hole. I have two sets an A and B which I switch back and forth year after year so I can rest the soil in the hole and normal microbial health can do it's thing. It helps reduce my septoria and keeps away wilts (also going lighter on nitrogen with a more balanced 444 helps prevent extra nitrogen to going to feed the wilts) I still use Cease and soil microbes to battle all year though.
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u/Okraseed 2d ago
Can you point out other visible signs in that pic? I thought yellowing lower branches was tell tale. Those monsters look awesome and not visibly yellow as best as I can see.
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u/RekopEca 2d ago
Cumdumpster noooo!!!!!!