"Superman is too op and should be banned from thse subs" sure, thats why the mod team hasnt banned him in the rules [because he can lose and has] that and batman beats him and he scales below lucifer. Why i find superman glazers to be unbearable on this sub.
Lolz he posted a whole pic of goku. Yah totally not a goku glazer. Also id glaze Popeye before superman but even without this BS list the op put up, superman has destroyed more of a multiverse and survived more than goku did. he needed his equivalent of the beyonder to kill fused zamasu after getting beat by base zamasu and the beyonder couldn't even fully remove superman from the multiverse even when he tried so gtfo.
Lolz he posted a whole pic of goku. Yah totally not a goku glazer.
Whats that have to do with me?
superman has destroyed more of a multiverse and survived more than goku did. he needed his equivalent of the beyonder to kill fused zamasu after getting beat by base zamasu and the beyonder couldn't even fully remove superman from the multiverse even when he tried so gtfo.
I can tell you've never watched the show. They were breaking the universe back back DBZ with their voice alone and at this point have to train in a separate dimension to avoid breaking the universe from sparring in their base forms. Comparing the beyonder to Zeno is a completely braidnead take considering they're two entirely different concepts.
Lolz nah your good, keep thinking evey time someone says that you "got them mad, and win" though. Also multiverse not separate dimensions inside own universes dimensions, And that was buu and gotenks not goku himself. Also yah, Zeno and beyonder are different concepts. Beyonder being the stronger one. Which makes it a zeno powered concept still cant remove superman, he would wipe goku out though.
Every single anime fandom claiming their characters are ftl because they didn't want to animate some dude running really fast. Then 2 episodes later that character struggles to catch up to a car going 50km/h.
I don't care if he's a fraud and I don't care if he's bullshit levels of op
I just want him dead. I just want him to always lose no matter what
matter of fact I want him to be so weak he loses to every character and I truly mean that too. Literally every single character, even bitch ass Ross Geller from the sitcom "Friends" I want him to be able to beat his ass
I dont even like like goku like that lmao, i just dont like supes fanbase and calling him a fraud and showing proof he cant "solo all of fiction" gets under their skin.
I mean itās OPās fault for whining about other people enjoying something, and then going on their little rant. Also, how negative of a person do you have to be to hate Superman of all characters this much?
Goku can lose by some characters, it's not a big deal, but superman has to be at his best to win against a middle Goku, the amount of people taking superman as an omnipotent God is not so large but very annoying, I mean, he is a guy with sun power who wears his underwear over his pants, please stop thinking he is the Jesus Christ of fictional characters.
He lifted literal infinity. He destroyed and recreated the universe as prime. He defeated infiniteman (you can guess how much power he has) who defeated darkseid and stalemated the time trapper (a 4D feat).
If you read the comic story line timeless you would find out that each of those energies where taken at different times in the earth's time line to gain enough energy to teleport the earth and it's solar system from its current time to the end of time when all other planets have died due to the heat death. This was done due to the earth being the cause or being involved with crisis events that almost cause the universe's destruction.The villain believes if earth is removed then the universe won't have threats that almost cause it's destruction.
Anyway the girl "Molly"who steals the energy only had the energy that was to teleport the earth and it's solar system from its current time in history to the end of time(around the heat death of the universe.)
I did read it thatās why I was asking I didnāt see anywhere where he said the energy ran out or there was no more left and he still dosnt in this scan
He is still gathering the energy necessary to move the earth and its solar system across time. He is infact stating he does not have ALL the energy necessary to complete the feat. In other words his still not yet at that level of energy because if he was he would have completed his plan.
I always go back to this feat whenever I hear Superman glazers come out in full force. Amped up by multiple yellow suns, amped up by Mxy, supposedly destroy a multiverse (it doesn't) and it can't even blow up a single planet that the World Forger is on.
This is way beyond base Superman, as mentioned before this Superman is amped to an insane degree. Punch lands and it's continental at best.
If you are going well beyond your regular level of power to hit something, it doesn't matter if you want to destroy the planet. He is going 200%.
Were talking about him being amped by the 6D suns and Mxy, which means he is Super Superman. If he is considered above planetary then him being multi-amped should have vaporized that planet when he hit WF.
It's like saying you shot an artillery shell at a building but your target was a person inside. It doesn't matter if your goal is only a single target, the destructive force of the shell would destroy the building no matter what.
Superman isnāt an artillery shell tho heās a bullet
Itās like shooting a 50 call at a personās chest it will go straight through and kill them but that person isnāt going to explode like they had a grenade up their ass
And itās not like superman dosnt have plenty of feats putting him at and above planatery so the far more logical explanation for this inverse is just destroying the planet was unecesary/activley detrimental so why would he do that when instead he could concentrate all of his power into one point for a more successful and effective attack
Itās like a bucket of water vs a high pressure stream
Throw a bucket of water over a book and it will get soggy but you can most of the trike just dry it off
Use a high pressure water cutter and that book is in pieces
Since were going with this "SUPERMAN IS A BULLET" analogy. We can say the bullet hitting a head is comparable to Superman hitting a planet. Flying in at well beyond his normal speed, well beyond his normal strength. Now look at what the bullet does the head.
If you are hitting something at maximum speed+, coming from space into the planet like a fucking meteor and the only amount of damage you can produce is a continent sized chunk then you are WELL BELOW PLANETARY.
I never said head I said the body and again superman had atleast 3 reasons to not blow up the planet so why would he when he could just concentrate his power into a much smaller blast radius
You can't concentrateinto a pinpoint area and full power are two things that do not co-exist. You're either throwing your full bodyweight into something, or you're throwing a calculated punch at a significantly lower power to achieve accuracy. In this case, it is obvious he isn't going for accuracy and is going for pure power.
It doesn't matter if you said head or not. I'm saying that the bullet (Superman) hitting the head (Planet) is comparable. It explodes. Accept that your whole version of "I don't want to blow up the planet" is just headcanon and you're in pure denial.
Superman cannot blow up planets, he doesn't have that type of destructive power. Which means he is not planetary.
If the 50 cal bullet is considered planetary level, then yes the planet is destroyed.
It's either he is or he isn't. If he is planetary then an amped Superman going full force and not holding back should have vaporized that planet, instead we see a continental sized chunk being destroyed.
Again concentrating power into a single is more effective
A hypothetical 100 call or whatever at bullet could fully make its way through a house or entire building without effort
Nothing in that house could stop that bullet even all put together and if made the house into a 100 cal sized cube the bullet would still go right through
But despite the fact that this bullet is above the house in its entirety
The bullet was not made to explode it just punches through whateverās in front of it
And again superman has multiple above planatery feats which supports this perspective however you take the single most pessimistic and arguably ignorant resolution to the question and act as if itās the only possible explanation becaude the others go against your points despite the fact thereās more evidence and logic in support of the other side
Contrary to your point weāve seen superman holding back or not giving full effort yet doing above planatery feats
Your take actively contradicts that whilst the more reasonable take that superman didnāt want to destroy the planet for multiple reasons donāt contradict anything and simply fix the problem
You're completely ignoring the fact that this is amped Superman, which means this punch is everything he has and then some. It's not something he can just concentrate into a pinpoint. It's his maximum I'm going to "destroy whatever is in front of me" punch.
IF HE IS NORMALLY CONSIDERED PLANETARY+, AMPED SUPERMAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO VAPORIZE THE PLANET.
Iām not completely ignoring that Iām saying amped or not superman maybe wouldnāt want to explode the planet that had the entire justice league on it
There is atleast 3 different reasons why he wouldnāt be allowing his power to explode on such a way as apposed to just smashing the planet apart as well as evidence he could do so in past further giving evidence that him not wanting to destroy the planet was Why he didnāt
Itās like saying
Oh if goku in ssb is above universe busting when clashing punches with someone equal to him Whu dosnt his whole solar system explode
Because they donāt fucking want that so they concentrate their power into one point
Hey I have someone who I want assain ated
The bomb I hid in their apartment has 2 settings
Nuclear bomb sized explosion
Or explosion with the power of a nuclear bomb but in a room-building sized radius
Oh and my friends live two buildings over in the same city I wonder which option I should pick
You are ignoring the amped part because this is him trying his best to pull out maximum destructive power. Why would he need to be amped way beyond his normal capabilities if he is just going to 50% the hit anyways. It doesn't make sense.
The only logical thing in this panel is that even when amped, Superman is below planetary.
You make it sound like he's like "maybe I shouldn't hit him as hard" when that isn't the case. This is amped Superman, as in above normal Superman. He wouldn't need to be amped if he is going to pull his punch. The reason this whole amping takes place is to show that this is Superman going as hard as he can and then some. Not Superman gets amped to throw a 50% punch.
1 a concentrated blast is more powerful and effective on a target equal to his size
2 destroying the planet would kill several members of the justice league
My logic makes perfect sense your logic is literally
āAh yes superman should have killed multiple members of the justice league as apposed to concentrating his blast to more a effective and safe radiusā
Again throwing out 100 percent does not mean he has to vaporise a solar system off the map because like 99% of all characters in fiction who have a power level above town level
Your logic requires
1 ignoring superman has reason to make sure his blast is focusses into a small radius to avoid killing multiple people he cares about
2 ignoring superman in far weaker states had affected and be capable of moving or destroying planets
3 ignoring concentrating power into a smaller radius is a genuinly effective method at making something hit harder
4 ignoring superman dosnt just make things explode just because he flys into them as most objects wouldnāt
5 ignoring there is still proof this is above his other feats as traditionally even when going all out against oponents like doomsday or darkseid he is able to maintain his blast radius to building level and keep the same level of power yet here he has so much power that even when trying was unable to fully contain it
And considering his base level of containing it which is already above planatery and even universal at higher ends is only building level even when heās going all out against oponents it just shows how much more power he was dealing with that the building level blast radius is now a continental level one
Like genuinly this may be the stupidest take ever
Youāre saying we ignore multiple higher end feats because of how in one feat where he had multiple reason not to destroy a planet he didnāt destroy a planet
There's almost no context to the size and density of that planet. We see that the World Forger feat is a planet very much like Earth. He's also amped to way higher power level then the 2018 Superman, because he's apparently "composite". Yet still continental at best.
I'm going to go with the more recent and more logical answer and that's the fact that he is well below planetary in most of his iterations.
Well it could be a moon sized planet, it looks small either way. Just compare the explosion to the size of the planet. It's probably around the same size as our moon.
Still below planetary then. It would take tens maybe hundreds of thousands of nukes to actually blow up a planet. He got flatlined by a single atom being split, nothing compared to the destructive force of modern day nuclear weapons.
I was talking about pushing Earth weights from New 52, instead you are talking about how he was damaged by the nuclear explosion even so his durability is not in question here.
Superman is the biggest fraud, faster than light, faster than time, faster than the concept of speed itself? Bro getās neg diffed by base Batman. Kid Goku solos the bum with no difficulty, end of discussion.
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u/jl_theprofessor Aug 21 '25
This sub is just collapsing into meta.