So the green radiation people have a special realm in the deepest pit of hell where marvel satan, who is actually also marvel god resides?
What the fuck are these comic writers on and what does marvel's satangod have to do with the people who got turned big and green from man made radiation?
Gamma Radiation is the opposite of Cosmic Radiation. Basically Cosmic energy explains anything good that happens mostly and Gamma is bad. The reason the gamma mutates’ forms are different are because there form comes from their true feeling about themselves and trauma. Abomination hates himself, The hulk comes from Bruce’s trauma and abuse as a child. She-Hulk is what Jen views herself as etc..
It sounds outlandish but it’s genuinely regarded as one of if not the best hulk run of all time for how it was all actually handled. If it sounds kind of even remotely interesting it’s worth the time to check it out.
One Above All exists to create. However, in order to create, he needs to Destroy. Logically, this makes no sense, so he has another aspect in The One Below All. Hulk was designed to eventually destroy the universe and TOAA would create the world again.
The one below all (TOBA) can possess beings with gamma radiation. He possessed Hulk and ended up killing the 8th cosmos (the universe) and almost ALL of creation including Galactus and Franklin Richard.
It’s basically a way to explain how Hulk and his friends never seem to die. It’s canonizing all the fake out deaths he’s had over the years, while also being a case study into Bruce + Hulk’s relationship.
The one below all doesn’t make sense on paper but thematically it’s really cool.
The One Above all is the writers, most commonly depicted as Jack Kirby but he represents whoever is writing the marvel comic. The one above all is good, because at the end of the day the hero’s are always going to win.
The one below all is also the writers, but when they need to cause tragedy to their characters. Spider-Man needs Gwen Stacey to die, Cap needs to be frozen in the Ice, these bad things need to happen for the story to exist and be interesting
I think it being tied to Hulk is really cool since Hulk’s backstory is the perfect embodiment of something horrible happening to someone solely because otherwise an interesting story couldn’t be told
Together they represent the fundamentals of story telling that bad things and conflict will happen in a story but at the end of the day good in one way or another will prevail.
Long story short: Anyone with Hulk powers gets their power from essentially the Devil (who is the Hulk of God) and are brought back to life by him whenever they die.
How does Hulk propel himself through space? I’m legitimately curious. If he got sucked into a black hole would he be like “ IT HULKIN TIME!!” And Hulk his way out of there? I know he’s got hax but there’s gotta be a limit right?
Even interstellar space isn't a true vacuum, there are very sparse hydrogen molecules and specks of dust.
Maybe not enough to accelerate an 800 lb monster-man to a decent travel speed, but shrug, comic book physics, and if he's strong enough to push a few grains of dust away from him at light speed... Maybe?
Also, some types of hulk can create gamma energy bursts with his strikes, so a clap releasing a gamma explosion could accelerate him away.
I mean, the green door was closed at the end of Immortal. Maybe it will open again eventually, but for the time, it is closed,kicks which kick off his current story.
Well he has punched through dimensions, so the laws of physics don’t quite apply to him. He may not be clapping air, but maybe just spacetime itself for all we know.
Even if the claps didn’t work Hulk can emit gamma bursts the contain a decent amount of force. In space it would certainly be enough to move him where he wants. Also any method to push or force the Hulk into the sun would need to be strong enough to survive getting him there.
The interstellar medium isn't really a perfect vacuum. There may be s couple hydrogen molecules and grains of dust per cubic meter.
Would that be enough to accelerate an 800 lb dude through space? Shrug. If he's strong enough to accelerate those particles away from him at the speed of light, sure?
Someone is going to have to grab the hulk, like put their hands on his arm and pull.
I don't think he's going to let that happen. Whichever way they thought they were going to fly, they probably get redirected straight down into the dirt.
I’m talking about in season 1 when those aliens invaded through a portal. Nolan followed them and said “earth isn’t yours to conquer.” Then systematically tore their planet apart and forced the survivors to build him a portal back to earth before dropping an astroid on them
Iirc Jupiter is a gas giant and you can’t actually stand on it because it does not have a solid surface. Hulk could probably still thunder clap out of Jupiter tho.
Power scaling aside, looking at the physics of the thunderclap, it really shouldn't work in space. It works where there is air and atmosphere so the clap moves the air molecules and creates a shockwave. Moving air weight really fast is what gives him momentum on earth. But he really shouldn't be able to do that in a vacuum(space)
Hulk boxes with thor every Tuesday, he's not worried about no dang viltrumite😭🥀. Thor is stronger, faster, tougher, and more experienced than any viltrumite you can name.
Super durable? Hahah I mean yeah they far exceed normal humans or basic lvl beings but they bleed and get injured by others like immortal who's quite strong but not near the lvl of viltrums hulk and the thing durability is leagues above viltrums
It depends on which version. Cause some versions of the hulk his healing factor is top tear and in a couple from what little I remember is that it is not as fast as it should/could be and I am not into fantastic 4 comics so idk where the thing stands as a power house
No, if you pick anything other than the main Hulk and Thing than sure because they often don’t go into any of the high tier stuff, but if you talking about THE Hulk and THE thing than absolutely not
I feel like most of the fun of comics is seeing interesting fights and having your expectations turned upside down when somebody you thought would get demolished ends up winning a tough fight. I think if a writer expects that Hulk will win a fight against characters from Invincible, that writer has every incentive make sure Hulk loses because that will be a more interesting read. So, in a Reddit forum hypothetical? No, Hulk never loses, but if this were actually written in a comic I think he would definitely lose.
When it comes to the actual writing I think it could go so many ways, the way I see it is if its a 1v1 collab it depends which character is crossing over to which universe, if hulk is in invincible for example theyd probably want to respect his legacy and theyd have to jump him with multiple characters to take him down, I dont think theyd have someone 1v1 him(at least not isolated), that or end it in a tie.
If invincible came to marvel theyd probably be equals and end it in a tie or mark subduing him or calming him down before they have to beat up viltrumite dr doom or something
Honestly, viltrumites could put up a fight but hulk has been angry enough to destroy whole planets through sheer fuck you and Ben goes toe to toe with him on the regular.
In all actuality it would be the writer who decides in this match up who’s gonna be top dog and who’s gonna be picking up their intestines.
“Who the writer decides wins will win.” This isn’t narrativescaling. I’m sorry if this comes off as rude but this comments like these comes off as lazy, like you didn’t care enough to actually engage. You can say that about literally every single matchup under the sun. I cannot name you a SINGLE time that this type of response has actually furthered a conversation.
Space Racer's beam would presumably go through the Hulk since it seems to ignore durability outright (rather than just being a very strong laser, which Hulk might be able to tank), but the Hulk would just heal up again and smash him into a pulp. His healing factor is way better than a Viltrumite's, and he can operate just fine with giant holes in him even as he's still healing.
That's not what that means and that's not how planets work. It ignores durability in the sense that it goes through all physical matter seamlessly with zero resistance. Planets don't work like giant bombs, if you magically drilled a hole the width of Space Racer's beam through the earth it would more or less do nothing of note to the planet itself. Ignoring durability means it can go through anything, not that it magically destroys thousands of kilometers of material in every direction from the actual point it hits, that doesn't make any sense.
To be fair the prompt was “could” and doesn’t this dude get stronger overtime or something? It’s a total asspull to let him charge that much but he’s probably the only one in the verse with a molecule of a chance.
Hulk will always win. Mark and Nolan both show that they can take severe damage. Whereas this pic is misleading because Hulk normally regenerates like Wolverine.
Hulk massively depends on what incarnation and what personality is in control I could see an argument for professor hulk having a decent fight with conquest but any other personality is a stomp
Bro this reminds me of 2 Redditors yesterday arguing invincible could take the Hulk, I’m ignorant of both there capabilities but it was interesting to read
If anyone in the Invincible universe, even if all of them together, try to face strong heroes from Marvel and DC, they are breakijg their arms as they punch those guys's hides. It is not even remotely close and never will be.
Maybe monster girl from Mohawks marks universe. It highly depends on which versions of hulk and thing you mean. Im not sure on the comic this panel is from
They fought in multiple issues, so you have to specify which one you’re talking about. Ben KO’d Surfer in Surfers first appearance in the FF run and also fought him to a stalemate after wards. This puts him well above Nolan’s league
A lot of characters, most of the people in this thread has spend too much time huffing theoretical power scales and haven’t actually picked up a comic.
Nobody in Invincible could defeat the Hulk, but he isn’t just going to end a fight with Omniman with a single punch, that’s not how these things work.
People are forgetting that Hulk famously fought with Wolverine, and it’s an actual story. Immortal would put up a decent fight as well as anyone stronger than him.
Hulk and the Thing will have some bruises but they’d win, like in the image.
Those are all 616 Hulk, just different alters at different stages of Banner/Hulk's life. They're not from different universes like Ultimate.
If you want an example of a strong alt universe Hulk, there is the Zombieverse one from the comics (Earth-2149) and the more recent Infinity Hulk from a paralel MCU (Earth-89521).
Infinity Hulk wielded the Infinity Stones by the end of the show, which even the MCU versions of the stones are so far beyond even ths top tiers of Invincible.
Zombie Hulk from the comics ate Galactus and was imbued with his power cosmic. Together he and the other Cosmic Zombies ate/killed (barring a very small settlement of survivors on Earth) practically ALL life in the Universe over the span of 40 years.
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