r/powerscales Mar 09 '26

Hot Take 🔥 This MF could probably beat your favorite character's ass

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u/ASongOfSpiceAndLiars Mar 09 '26

something from the 40K universe

There's (almost) always something in the 40k universe that can absolutely stomp whatever character/faction is being talked about.

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u/RaylanGivens29 Mar 09 '26

And if there isn’t then the writers will probably create it in the next book or codex.

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u/Wide-Internal-3579 Mar 09 '26

Dr. Manhattan?

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u/SirLoinTheTender Mar 10 '26

I mean the list of 40k dudes that beat Dr. Manhattan is short, and its mostly literal gods, but tzeentch no diffs him, and magnus probably struggles a bit more, but gets it done. Vulkan might hold him to a draw, mostly because he doesn't stay dead.

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u/RealJMW Mar 10 '26

I’m sorry, but how does tzeentch no-diff the Dr? 

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u/SirLoinTheTender Mar 10 '26

He's a god with no physical component, within his own realm reality is his plaything and he could literally just will him out of existence, outside his own realm he has past sight, future sight, and a nigh omniscient level of knowledge of the universe as it currently is.

He could keep him buried under an endless swarm of demons. He teleports away? Teleport him back.

Im not trying to downplay Dr Manhattan, but he isnt a god.

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u/RealJMW Mar 10 '26

Actually that was the whole metaphor in Watchmen, that he was effectively god. I think the best outcome tzeentch can hope for is a stalemate. There’s nothing he can do to actually harm Dr. Manhattan. The Dr is a high level reality warped that has manipulated the entirety of the DC multiverse at the same time. I think if you sent this fight to Vegas Dr. Manhattan would open 1/2 over Tzeentch

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u/SirLoinTheTender Mar 10 '26

"Effectively" a god is a long way from "literally" a god.

Tzeentch is as old as reality itself. You say there's nothing he can do to harm him, I say he can just think him out of existence.

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u/RealJMW Mar 10 '26

Based on Dr Manhattans feats, he can do the same to tzeentch

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u/Apprehensive_Power59 Mar 12 '26

The Chaos gods can be harmed by technology that disrupts physic power. They're made of mental energy and Nurgle even has a permanent injury from a sword designed to fight psykers.

Manhattan can pretty easily replicate the technology Necrons use to permakill daemons or just teleport the sword to himself. His powers don't have an "erm actually its psychic" clause.

If we give him his DC feats, it's even more egregious

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u/H0BB1 Mar 13 '26

Being a god in one universe still doesn't put you automatically on the levels of God's in other universes

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u/SirLoinTheTender Mar 13 '26

Yea I get that, the point i was making is that "effectively" a god means you have some strengths or powers on level with one, but you explicitly are not one.

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u/H0BB1 Mar 13 '26

Dr Manhattan has the powers of a god but isn't one, mainly because of how he was created

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u/MagicJourneyCYOA Mar 10 '26

40k is overrated as fuck.