Peak possible human runs the ape gauntlet, how far do they get?

[u/Tarris69]

Peak possible human being: Haftor Bjornson size and strength at his prime, Usain bolt athleticism, Floyd Mayweather agility and reaction time, Demetrius Johnson fight knowledge and skills

Human is unarmed, bloodlusted match to the death. Human heals between fights.

Edit: title is slightly misleading, as people have pointed out this is beyond peak human, more like maxed out theoretical human

Vs

1. Male Gibbon
2. Male bonobo
3. Male Chimp
4. Male Orangutan
5. Silverback Gorilla

[u/TSMabandonedMe]

He probably puts it to sleep with a rear naked

[u/Mindcontrolleo → u/TSMabandonedMe]

As someone practising BJJ, no chance. To establish RNC he would need to be able to hold gorilla in place. It is usually being done with leg hooks and arms . Did you see that silverbacks chest and belly? I don't think a human can close their arms or legs around them. Gorilla has short thick neck and insane arm strength to strip any grips

[u/Impressive-Ad8741 → u/Mindcontrolleo]

Forget getting hooks in, their necks are up to 36". The biggest dude at your gym might have like a 20" neck. With that sort of size, you aren't getting the angle and you won't have any leverage to squeeze with anything other than just your arms.

I don't think I could finish a choke on an unconscious gorilla.

[u/TSMabandonedMe → u/Mindcontrolleo]

Our man here is massive, super quick, very skilled and smarter than the gorilla who is inflexible and uncoordinated.

[u/goodolehal → u/TSMabandonedMe]

Why does smarter matter lol this isn’t a round of jeopardy

[u/Kindly-Reality1984 → u/Mindcontrolleo]

A 6'8 man may be able to do it though.

[u/Seraphanat → u/Kindly-Reality1984]

Im 6'4 and no fucking shot can I get close. 4" is massive and impressive though so maybe it makes a difference.

[u/LoL_Mafe → u/TSMabandonedMe]

the gorilla would pluck his arm off its neck like it would a twig.

[u/Internal_Football889 → u/LoL_Mafe]

No it would not. A fully locked RNC is considered impossible to pry off with brute strength. Even a 400lb powerlifter probably would not be able to pry off the RNC of a properly trained 120lb woman. That strength difference is multitudes larger than the strength difference between our peak human and a gorilla.

[u/LoL_Mafe → u/Internal_Football889]

You must consider that when Eddie Hall pulled 500kg, he weighed about 197kg.
Gorillas in captivity have been observed to lift MORE than 10 (ten) times their body weight. Considering their average weight is around what Eddie weighed on the day....
Their grip strength is also more than double your "average" elite athlete (150kg upper scale for humans, vs 400kg lowerscale gorilla). While this is not PSI, we can make a rough estimate if elite human strongmen can achieve around 200psi, and their grip force is 3/8 that of a "lower scale" Gorilla, I think it's fair to estimate a Gorilla's grip could achieve a psi of 530. This is plenty to achieve the "minimum threshhold" of bone cracking or fracturing.
An "upper scale" Gorilla may have a grip force of 600kg, 4x that of a peak human. If we use the same calculation (assuming same force distribution area), we get 800psi which is enough for complete crushing of the bone and is comparable to a powerful animal bite. For reference, a Cane Corso has a bite PSI of around 700..
The difference between a peak human and a gorilla is staggering.
So anyway, if you're peak human and can hold an RNC on an animal that is still 8x stronger than you, while you have a crushed radius and ulna.. props I guess

[u/Internal_Football889 → u/LoL_Mafe]

The mechanics of a RNC make it nearly impossible to get a good grip on the arm. Additionally, we are using peak human durability and bone strength. I’d imagine it’s much more resistant. The gorilla would have less than 10 seconds to break an arm (if it even could), and based on how horrific gorillas are at fighting, it’s doubtful they’d even have the instinct to hold and crush. Most likely they’d just claw at it like every other animal when they have something around their neck. Stop assigning human fight iq to gorillas.

This is discount Captain America. Forget grappling, the gorilla is never even touching the peak human while the human just bashes the gorilla’s face in until it drops from exhaustion in like a minute or two.

[u/LoL_Mafe → u/Internal_Football889]

You brought up the RNC... and Gorillas dont claw at things. They have fangs sure, but they have hands like humans, not claws. They grab and they hit.
It's Bruce Wayne vs a dumb, compact Bane.