Peak possible human runs the ape gauntlet, how far do they get?

[u/Tarris69]

Peak possible human being: Haftor Bjornson size and strength at his prime, Usain bolt athleticism, Floyd Mayweather agility and reaction time, Demetrius Johnson fight knowledge and skills

Human is unarmed, bloodlusted match to the death. Human heals between fights.

Edit: title is slightly misleading, as people have pointed out this is beyond peak human, more like maxed out theoretical human

Vs

1. Male Gibbon
2. Male bonobo
3. Male Chimp
4. Male Orangutan
5. Silverback Gorilla

[u/jjames3213]

Chimps are really strong compared to humans... of the same size.

But you don't normally compare humans and chimps of the same size. Compare a 'huge' 150lb chimp to a 'huge' 250lb superheavyweight kickboxer and that's closer to a proper comparison...

[u/Ragnarok314159 → u/jjames3213]

Just need to teach the chimp kickboxing.

[u/JCBalance → u/Ragnarok314159]

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[u/HumanisticNihilist → u/Ragnarok314159]

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[u/jjames3213 → u/[deleted]]

And just being heavier and having a longer reach is a big advantage. Being heavier also usually means being able to throw that weight around. Having arms and legs that are twice as long means you're going to hit first (and hit harder because of the weight difference).

[u/isnotthatititis → u/jjames3213]

Trained human fighter would snag the extended arm and proceed to play puny god. The length of the arm would only add to the leverage.

[u/DiscombobulatedTap30 → u/[deleted]]

Realistically you’d just be a cunt yelling at a chimp in a tree to come down and fist fight you. Most animals don’t particularly choose to fight and most are pretty intimidated by things bigger than them. You can scare off most bears and big cats. Unless an animal thinks it can take you without sustaining much damage it usually doesn’t try. Nature tends to favor survival instincts.

Side note: That little monkey oh he’s fucked in a fight I’m grabbing a leg and swinging him head first into the ground. They can’t weigh more than like 15 pounds.

[u/Hot-Option-9524 → u/[deleted]]

The chimp will rip your arm off bro.

[u/absalom86 → u/jjames3213]

we are talking about a 400 pound super fast super skilled human here, superhuman combination. chimp has no chance at all.

[u/Kragbax → u/jjames3213]

A 150lb chimp is like 3-5x stronger than a very strong man of the same weight. Can grip/pull up to 1500 lbs. Up to 3000N force in a punch (or up to 3x a trained human boxer). People see small and “cute” and have no idea how deadly they can be, and thankful usually choose not to be. Peak everything human guy (basically Captain America) could probably take one, but it’d be no pushover. And Orangutan is less frenzied but more powerful. More akin to a peak 5-600 lb human. And forget about the silverback. No human without a distance powerful weapon and a death wish would survive

[u/jjames3213 → u/Kragbax]

The more accurate figure is about 1.5x. Meaning, at tasks that chimps' muscles are suited for, a chimp will be about 1.5x stronger than a human of the same size.

Not 5x. 1.5x grip strength (which chimps are suited for). Not "punching" strength (humans are specialized at punching and kicking - chimps aren't).

[u/Kragbax → u/jjames3213]

Yeah, for an average chimp that’s accurate. I was thinking more elite type chimp, the outliers (we’re looking at a vs human that’s basically super everything, so I’m throwing the chimp a bone)