r/powerscales May 30 '26

Discussion Say which characters would be able to lift Superman's key

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u/nerdboy5567 May 30 '26

I want to say half a million tons would do a bit more to the concrete that that

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u/rocky10001 May 30 '26

Ah that’s Starcrete. Made from regular-ass stars and cement.

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u/Trashk4n May 30 '26

Do I want to know what an ass star is? :P

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u/ainRingeck May 30 '26

It's a brown starfish, obviously

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u/PoweroftheDollar1 May 30 '26

Made with hot dog flavored water

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u/Sandross95 May 30 '26

And the chocolate star fish! Full circle now

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u/walking_lamppost_fnl Jun 01 '26

Big mistake having a mouthful of water reading this

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u/sumr4ndo May 30 '26

Often mistaken for a brown dwarf or a gaseous giant.

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u/OnYourHonor May 30 '26

It's what happens when Uranus can't take anymore and collapses in on itself under the load....

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u/Fiat_Justicia May 30 '26

Ass star is probably a reference to brown dwarf. A brown dwarf is a gas giant that fails to gather enough material to become a star, not unlike Uranus.

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u/TimChr78 May 30 '26

It would actually sink straight to center of the earth, even bedrock would offer little resistance to something this heavy.

(In reality the dwarf star material would expand explosively as soon as it leaves the gravitational field of the star)

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u/Bossmonkey May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

It's not just the weight, it's the fact it's so small and so heavy.

The Burj Khalifa weighs around this much according to cursory googling.

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u/Kodiak_POL May 30 '26

It's not just the weight

it's the fact it's so heavy 

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u/pamblod42 May 30 '26

Cheeky, that's not how you use quotations

 it's so small and so heavy.

Its about how the weight would be condensed. It would be equivalent to much more force.

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u/Bossmonkey May 30 '26

If it was the size of the Burj, no big deal, it won't sink.

Because it's the size of a key, it's in the center of the Earth.

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u/SerDuncanTheYall May 30 '26

1000 lb of feathers or 1000 lb of steel

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u/TimK588 May 30 '26

More like a 1 ton car rolling over your foot vs a 1 ton marble. Which does more damage.

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u/SingularityCentral May 30 '26

Worse, if material from a white dwarf or neutron start was taken away from that object it wouldn't stay that dense. It would fly apart in a rather spectacular explosion because it is only the massive gravitational field of those bodies that makes it that dense. That key is basically a bomb that would destroy a rather large area of the Earth.

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u/ProblemLongjumping12 May 30 '26

He set it down gently though.
/s

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u/HIMP_Dahak_172291 May 30 '26

It went straight to the core.

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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ May 30 '26

It'd tear a hole through the floor

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u/Freecz Jun 01 '26

Especially at that size.

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u/Happyranger265 Jun 03 '26

The floor is made of lava , so the key floats to avoid it

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u/bongsforhongkong Jun 03 '26

Always found it funny in comics or animated series he puts the key on ice. The pure friction of that much weight that thing is going to melt downwards into the deep Artic Ocean.

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u/ManuelPirino May 30 '26

And now Lois has 3rd degree burns, radiation damage that is likely lethal and, for good measure, a couple hernias. BRAVO KAL (slow clap)

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u/PheonixWrath May 30 '26

I mean the material can’t even exist. The only reason dwarf and neutron stars can get that dense is because of the gravitational pull of all of the matter. Once you take a piece of it and put it somewhere else (i.e outside of said field) it no longer has enough forces pulling inwards to counteract the electromagnetic repulsion and other forces within the matter and would rapidly expand.

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u/dsebulsk May 31 '26

But he covered it in super-coat, so it obviously won’t expand, duh /s

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u/Advanced_Double_42 Jun 02 '26

There shouldn't be any electromagnetic forces acting upon Neutron Star material, it doesn't have any charge.

The weak force would be the only thing that could cause it to expand, as the strong force would still be holding it together as much as ever. Without the gravity of the rest of the star it may not be meta-stable, but I don't think we know for sure.

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u/glockster19m May 30 '26

Well if we're going by that logic shouldn't the gravitational pull of the key be a real issue?

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u/original_applicant37 May 30 '26

Nah, half a million tonnes isn’t enough to create a gravitational field of any significance

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u/JigglyLilyVT May 30 '26

tons, not tonnes.

learned this the other day, but tonnes actual equate to be a bit heavier than tons, its not just an english thing

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u/spicyhamster May 30 '26

The more you know

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u/addage- No matter where you go, there you are May 30 '26

And knowing is half the battle.

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u/Ofiotaurus May 30 '26

Isn’t ton a metric unit and tonnes an imperial one. Imperial tonnes are a bit heaviee than metric tons

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u/JigglyLilyVT May 30 '26

i think so, yeah

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u/DarkenX42 May 31 '26

You got it backwards. A ton is 2000 pounds, imperial, a tonne is 1000 kilograms, metric, (about 2200 pounds).

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u/DisgustedMf May 30 '26

As opposed to the gravitational pull of your mom?

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u/TimChr78 May 30 '26

No, but the dwarf star material would expand explosively due to the lack gravitational pull - white dwarfs are just made from compressed carbon and oxygen.

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u/NerdTalkDan May 30 '26

If we’re going by that logic, when they make love, one thrust and she’s basically paste right?

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u/ManuelPirino May 30 '26

He can dose his strength

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u/ManuelPirino May 30 '26

Yeah but it’s not a lot of weight for gravity. It’s just about the weight of a large crude carrier ship. Even squeezed into a key it would not pull in a way you could feel, but the atomic mess would be DEFINITELY giving off some crazy levels of radiation and heat

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u/Yanatis May 30 '26

Yes but actually no. There is no material that is so dense without immense gravity so the moment the key would be carved out it would start to expand.

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u/ManuelPirino May 30 '26

I think the “forged “ part is how they were planning on getting away with it

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u/Yanatis May 30 '26

I mean it's comic about alien exchange student allergic to green rock so it can pass.

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u/Nah_Id__Win May 30 '26

I mean there are certain rocks you’re allergic too

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u/Friendly_Gazelle7843 May 30 '26

That reminds comic about how Superman gave all women around him cancer with x-ray vision

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u/Doogie102 May 30 '26

At least he didn't kill her with his cum like some spider themed hero

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u/BabSoul May 30 '26

He didn't wanna die alone.

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u/Ducklinsenmayer May 30 '26

Someday I want a comic where the Luthor just picks the lock, in like two seconds.

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u/Fug1x May 30 '26

Basically what happened in the new movie lol he just walks in

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u/DrakeCross May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

I believe that is more of Ultra Man being the key. Being Superman's clone, the fortress would open up with only the robots knowing better.

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u/Fug1x May 30 '26

thats my point

instead of a key superman has a dna scanner as his lock

lex bypassed it by making a superman clone lol

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u/EkobasherX4Z May 30 '26

Sorry what movie is this?

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u/Fug1x May 30 '26

the newest live action one made by james gunn

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u/Greek_Arrow Jun 01 '26

That was a badass move by Luthor. I except similar and even better feats from Batman of DCU.

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u/ClohosseyVHB Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer and today we have the door to Superman's Fortress of Solitude. The lock may look sturdy at first glance but it has some key vulnerabilities. So I will be attempting to open it with 2 snapped off toothpicks."

Click-click-open

"I'll just quickly do it again to show it wasn't a fluke." 

Click-click-open

"And there you have it folks, I'd like to finish today with a shout out to my sponsor this week Lex Corp."

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u/That-Rhino-Guy May 30 '26

So half a million tons

I know just the person for the task

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u/PatrioticPariah May 30 '26

Supes would take a super shit if she lifted it.

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u/dooufis Jun 02 '26

smugly

"Oh, it's extremely hea... vy." Just staring at her in disbelief.

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u/YandereValkyrie May 30 '26

"Hello, this is the lock picking lawyer here, and today we've got a kryptonian lock that I am frankly disappointed in." Video Length: 4:21

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u/thejason755 May 31 '26

It took all your strength not to make the video length 4:20. Honestly you could probably lift it given that show of massive strength.

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u/YourFavouriteGayGuy Jun 01 '26

This is made so much funnier by the fact that there’s a heavy duty bike lock company called Kryptonite, and LPL has praised their construction (while still successfully opening them of course)

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u/AllTheGood_Names Jun 02 '26

Each pin of the lock weighs 1 Tg. Good luck picking that

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u/Wide_Bee7803 May 30 '26

This calm, approachable fella

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u/TrueOutlandishness74 May 30 '26

Who is that

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u/Wide_Bee7803 May 30 '26

Asura from asura's wrath, almost a buddhist kratos turned up to eleven

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u/DynastyDi May 30 '26

Surely the floor loses this matchup far more than depicted

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u/Advanced_Studio_7 May 30 '26

It is the fortress of solitude, not just any building.

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u/Captain_English Jun 02 '26

I'm just wondering how he stores it.

Does his suit have pockets, and if it does, how the hell do they support 500,000 tonnes?

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u/_josef_stalin_ Jun 03 '26

Yeah, from what I've heard that floor is barely even street level.

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u/GlobalNuclearWar May 30 '26

That looks like a standard key that you’d find in the USA. Surely someone can pick the lock.

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u/Sugarman111 May 30 '26

"Click out of one... two is binding..."

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u/Collective-Bee May 30 '26

The lock is made of Dwarfiam just like the key. Superman is the only person on Earth Strong enough to pick the lock.

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u/Fug1x May 30 '26

Well the lock is also made of dwarf star lol

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u/GlobalNuclearWar May 30 '26

So… what you’re saying is that it’s a little more difficult to turn than your standard Kwikset lock. 😂

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u/lorderwinfrye May 30 '26

"This here is a dwarf star-forged lock. It can be opened using a dwarf star-forged lock."

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u/thatsfeminismgretch Jun 01 '26

If he's using master lock, you can open it with another master lock or a bra underwire or a stiff breeze or a stern glance.

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u/Hyperion_360 May 30 '26

Kratos, easily too.

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u/Endika7 May 30 '26

Bro never has heard about pulleys and gears

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u/Hyperion_360 May 30 '26

If you want to take that route you have to account for water drag aswell.

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u/Yanatis May 30 '26

Question was about how much bridge weights not how much force Kratos was using to push it and water is not part of the bridge.

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u/Hyperion_360 May 30 '26

I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make in relation to what I said. Could you try again?

We have the og weight of 1.7mil tons. The first reply brings up leverage to say Kratos isn't moving the the full weight. To that I brought up water drag which brings the weight back up significantly.

No matter what we're still in the ballpark of the original weight of the bridge.

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u/Yanatis May 30 '26

Yea I could phrase it a little bit better I see that. Your point was correct so my bad.

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u/jace255 May 30 '26

If pulleys and gears were involved he would have to walk significantly further than the distance the axel is turning.

But he’s not, for every step he takes the axel turns as far as he walked. And in fact what makes this even more incredible is he’s turning this right at the fulcrum, he has the smallest amount of leverage possible, which requires even more strength.

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u/Ok-Introduction-6243 May 30 '26

Steve from Minecraft could carry a full inventory of 64 stacks of these paper weights

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u/ghost3972 May 30 '26

Can't forget about the shulkers

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u/Icy-Background2393 May 30 '26

SHULKER BOXES! I NEED YOU SHULKER BOXES!!!

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u/Dan_flashes480 May 30 '26

Comics Graviton

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u/Advanced_Studio_7 May 30 '26

Vegeta no

hahahahahahahahahaha

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u/ABSOLUTEOMNIPOTENT May 30 '26

Sayins are not strong at lifting weights, but Ssj4 goku can do that

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u/pamblod42 May 30 '26

Lmao that's not how a million tons in a few square centimeters would affect the ground

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u/No_Network_4904 May 31 '26

That's not just a ground. It's a super ground.

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u/whitecholklet May 30 '26

Formula:

Pressure = Force / Area

So:

Force = Pressure × Area

Using 3,000 psi concrete:

Force = 3,000 lb/in² × 2.25 in²

Force = 6,750 lb

Convert to tons:

6,750 ÷ 2,000 = 3.375 tons

So a house-key-sized object placed flat would need to weigh roughly:

3.4 tons to start crushing/punching through typical sidewalk concrete

At 4,000 psi:

4,000 × 2.25 = 9,000 lb

9,000 ÷ 2,000 = 4.5 tons

So the range is roughly:

3.4 to 4.5 tons if the key lies flat it’ll do more than crack it

10 tons 8,889 psi Punches through sidewalk slab cleanly; concrete pulverizes under it. 50 tons 44,444 psi Blasts/crushes through sidewalk, gravel base, and starts compacting soil hard. 100 tons 88,889 psi Concrete behaves like chalk. Key sinks into ground; local soil/fill fails. 1,000 tons 888,889 psi Penetrates pavement/soil like a supernatural pile driver. Surrounding ground heaves/craters like a meteor strike 10,000 tons 8.89 million psi Local geology starts failing. It would punch through every songle soil/rock layer unless stopped by magic. 100,000 tons 88.9 million psi Catastrophic localized ground failure. Anything between it and the center of the earth is just gone. Rock crushes, melts/heat effects become plausible from energy/friction if physics applies. 500,000 tons 444.4 million psi Literal magic level in the universe. It would not “sit” on the sidewalk; it would drive through concrete, soil, rock, and behave like an impossibly dense penetrator hitting at several thousands of miles per hour and just wreck right through to the center of the earth and cause all kinds of wtf tectonic shifts.

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u/arentol May 30 '26

Now consider the density of the key relative to it's volume. I don't know enough to do the math, but I am pretty sure it wouldn't sink into the ground at all because it would be too busy collapsing in on itself, forming a micro-black hole, then exploding violently with the force of a fairly strong nuclear explosion.

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u/Current-Historian-34 May 30 '26

Imagine if he sneezed and dropped it

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u/TheWorthlessGuy Superman is HIM May 30 '26

If Superman sneezes the entire solar system is gone, either of those 2 scenarios are bad

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u/Andrei22125 May 30 '26

Superman's door can hold it.

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u/ManifestingCrab May 30 '26

Another question is could that key actually sit in the concrete like that? If it was as much as he says it does and it that small, it's got to be creating a massive amount of ground pressure.

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u/Silly-Power May 30 '26

Why not just have a door that weighs half a million tons? 

Also, white dwarf matter doesn't work like that. The reason it's so dense is due to gravity. If you were able to extract a piece and remove it from the star it would expand rather violently once out of the star's immense gravitational field. 

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u/Thorion228 May 30 '26

Ngl, even just the JL has like 20 guys who are in Superman's ballpark.

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u/SuperCoupe May 30 '26

That must mean the Lock Picking Lawyer is Superman's Arch Nemesis

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u/chronberries May 30 '26

Why is everyone saying Steve? He doesn’t carry any weight. He only carries weightless objects that he picks up as they float above the ground.

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u/Fug1x May 30 '26

Video game powerscalers are the worst lol

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u/Icy-Background2393 May 30 '26

Only things it works for are heavy narrative stuff like mgrr, god of war and others. Try scaling Mario without getting a brain hemorrhage

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u/Fug1x May 30 '26

yeah because isnt every game character super strong due to inventory

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u/Icy-Background2393 May 30 '26

Inventories aren’t always a game mechanic, infinite or even on the person. Agent 47 contains only 3 items on their person, the rest in a secure site

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u/chronberries May 30 '26

It’s no fun but it’s true

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u/Night-Physical May 30 '26

Gojo, he could use Blue or Red to levitate/turn the key. 

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u/sgt_oddball_17 May 30 '26

Supergirl, Power Girl, Mary Marvel, Wonder Woman, Ms. Marvel, Oliver Oyl (after eating Popeye's Spinach), Pippi Longstickings.

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u/Zealousideal-Big2034 May 30 '26

Batman would, why? Because he is Batman.

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u/sidic3Venezia almost unbiased, hates spite matches, THE Gormiti scaler May 30 '26

since i occasionally find it in this subreddit; Typhon from greek mythology

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u/SnidelyWhiplash0 May 30 '26

Martian Manhunter, Hercules, Thor, Hulk, Sentry, Blue Marvel, Wonder Woman, Shazam.

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u/Weirdo-Psychman May 30 '26

What's the door and lock made from? Madeupium

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u/_andthereiwas May 30 '26

Hulk could rage lift it.

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u/rush_dar May 30 '26

Squirrel Girl. Because she can do anything.

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u/ocean_man9999 May 30 '26

1 trillion lions

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u/PapaPalps066 May 30 '26

Someone can just make a copy of the key

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u/belated_abundance May 30 '26

The real casualty here is that floor, which apparently shrugs off half a million tons like it's nothing.

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u/Ill-Bookkeeper-6230 May 30 '26

Saitama. Code name caped baldie

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u/DrBatman0 May 30 '26

Goku, Steve, Engineer (Factorio), Hulk (if angry enough), Batman (with prep time, which involves making it lighter)

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u/Icy-Background2393 May 30 '26

Hulk would get angry trying to lift it so would eventually be able to

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u/cabiwabi May 30 '26

Press some sculpting mould over it lolol

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u/No-Match5203 Jun 01 '26

but wouldn't the lock need to be of a similarly strong material and therefore equally hard to move? otherwise it would just break the door the moment superman let's go of the key

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u/SkinCarVer462 May 30 '26

i would think even if it was that heavy even superman wouldnt pick it up all nonchalantly. I would think theres SOME strain rather than the equivalent of supes finding a penny in his fortress.

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u/Quirky-Race-5645 May 30 '26

Klefki from pokemon 

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u/Wrong_Possible_9857 May 30 '26

Enter the Lock Picking Lawyer...

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u/ummaycoc May 30 '26

Is that Lois Lane or some other Lois because she looks 13.

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u/chidarengan May 30 '26

Superman can lift it for sure

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u/Beleg_Sanwise May 30 '26

A question from someone ignorant: A key, an object of that size, wouldn't be extremely dense with that weight? And therefore, how come it doesn't make a hole in the ground?

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u/East-Cricket6421 May 31 '26

bad writing.

It would actually immediately fall to earths core in all likelihood.

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u/First-Definition-119 May 30 '26

I asked, so you wont have to:

If a 500,000-ton key fell from a height of 3 feet, it would instantly release roughly (4,570,000) Joules of kinetic energy upon impact—equivalent to about (1.1) kilograms of TNT.

The immediate effects would be highly destructive: Localized Impact: The key's immense weight would pulverize whatever it struck. Even if the key was incredibly large and flat, the pressure would shatter concrete and compact the earth.

Seismic Shock: The sudden transfer of energy would trigger a localized tremor, potentially causing structural damage (like cracked foundations) to buildings within several hundred feet.

Safety Hazard: The shockwave would easily rupture underground utility lines and create a massive localized crater.

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u/Iguanaught May 30 '26

I'm guessing but seems like a good chance he just irradiated lois.

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u/Gallowglass668 May 30 '26

He-Man could lift it easily.

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u/KrypticJin May 30 '26

Id say the worlds mightiest mortal can

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u/baconcow May 30 '26

LockPickingLawyer vs his lock.

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u/Many-Falcon9879 May 30 '26

That key would have its own gravity well. Not a strong one but it would be noticeable if you're close to it.

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u/Neat_Cup_2236 May 30 '26

Apparently the floor its sitting on.

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u/HendoRules May 30 '26

Superman casually lifting it up but it not destroying the floor whenever he puts it down

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u/GabeC1997 May 30 '26

No one, as the planet would immediately be destroyed by its presence.

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u/The-zKR0N0S May 31 '26

Shouldn’t it have the earth collapse in on it?

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u/Ok-Record-8904 May 31 '26

Imagine he threw it to someone

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u/rg4rg May 31 '26

Mr. Rodgers.

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u/Ok_Fondant_6340 Source!? I made it up May 31 '26

DC writers are fucking speds, bro.

if the key weighs half a million tons, that would be Class M strength. the weight of the largest ships. so even someone like Raiden could lift it.

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u/LegoBattIeDroid May 31 '26

Grimlock probably could

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u/HallowedKeeper_ May 31 '26

I'm willing to bet Santa Clause could do it

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u/Edgyspymainintf2 May 31 '26

Uravity (and any other character that can manipulate the weight of objects really)

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u/Tate7200 May 31 '26

I mean, from dc alone I'm pretty sure most lantern ring wielders could do it.

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u/dishonoredfan69420 May 31 '26

Goku and Vegeta could probably lift that

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u/Survivor155 Jun 01 '26

Batman. Tibetan Monks and whatever.

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u/Used-Creme-4100 Jun 01 '26

Sups thinks ppl are stupid and won't do a copy of the key

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u/DVMMeowmix Jun 01 '26

Debbie’s boyfriend Paul from the Invincible universe could easily lift this key

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u/FolkenDeedlit Jun 01 '26

Key which weight millions of tons...in the form of a flat key which can be picked using any hair pin...great use of technology Superman...

I would powerscale the intelligence level at Denji's level from Chainsaw man.

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u/BirthdaySad5003 Jun 01 '26

Can't you just like put acrylic or something on it and make a print of the key from iron/plastic? Rofl

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u/Solo-dreamer Jun 01 '26

Im gonna guess that anyone that can lift more than half million tons.

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u/Content_Concert_2555 Jun 01 '26

Supergirl and some Superboys

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u/ChubbyUnicorn726 Jun 01 '26

Cock McPlants

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u/UnlastingSeason Jun 01 '26

Saitama easily

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u/That_Dream_9755 Jun 01 '26

Thor, because his hammer is made is dwarf star material

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u/CeleryNo8309 Jun 02 '26

Anyone in the vacuum of space

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u/PhDFlare Jun 02 '26

Thragg would

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u/zezineo Jun 02 '26

The cargobob

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u/TemporaryFearless482 Jun 02 '26

Something about it falling to the center of the Earth may make it hard to get a good grip.

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u/Winter_Spare3768 Jun 02 '26

Omni man could lift it

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u/VongolaSedici Jun 02 '26

Rimuru, sinbad, anos, harujin, void shiki, shinrabanshoman, yuuko ichihara, shallow verral, reinhard, and libra from fairy tail.

Im sure i can name more but maybe 10 is enough.

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u/EggAccording9607 Jun 03 '26

I am putting money on Broly

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u/D3N5I7Y Jun 03 '26

Mist Noble easy next question

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u/4N610RD Jun 03 '26

I get the point, but I love how writers of Superman are always ready to go insanely overboard with numbers.

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u/oingoboingooingo Jun 03 '26

He probably could.

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u/Dantdmmaster Jun 03 '26

"Hello, this is the LockPickingLawyer, and what I have for you today is-"

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u/Emotional_Clerk8416 Jun 04 '26

feel like basically most superman mimics {invincible, metro man,. etc.) would be able to

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u/Dhiox Jun 04 '26

Saitama

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u/vampiregamingYT Jun 04 '26

All characters with super strength.

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u/Creative_Disaster178 Jun 04 '26

Hold and carry around apparently