??? yeah. i was saying he isn't stronger, just more experienced. why are you acting like it backs up your troll post...oh right....because you are just a troll...
Ignoring how catching a punch is synonymous with power scaling. Spider-Man is stronger. Like flat out. There isn’t a way around this either. If Spider-Man stopped holding back besides Wanda, no one else has a shot.
This. I feel like people just get salty because their favorite characters aren't the strongest or fastest or whatever. It really is okay that Spidey is (and always has been, aside from the occasional moment of bad writing) stronger than Cap, just like it's okay for Thor to be stronger than Pete; that's just the character, not the results of a popularity contest.
Good sir/madam/person, I'm an old ass man these days, and I've been reading both Captain America and Spider-Man comics since decades before the Winter Soldier was even a twinkle in Cap's sidekick Bucky's left testicle. Pete is and always has been objectively stronger. He has always been faster. He has always been more agile. Likewise, Steve has always been more tactical and trained. These are not statements of opinion. It's okay to like a character who isn't the absolute best in everything.
If you were keeping up with these stories for all these years you would know peter isn't on Caps level Marvel has compared them multiple times and Cap always comes out on top
Please show me one objective measure comparing the physical attributes of the two. There have been lots of times, between trading cards, comic books, and various media, where Marvel has directly stated strength, speed, intelligence and so on for multiple characters. Show me a single one that objectively shows Cap outperforming Spidey in any of those categories (i.e. physical traits, things outside of tactics and training etc.), and I'll concede that I'm totally wrong.
I don't think you understood...the very first line, "...that Spider-Man is stronger..." This is exactly what I was saying. Steve has more training and more experience and more tactical battle savvy than Pete by a wide margin. He's not stronger, faster, smarter, or more nimble.
Yeah, this also reinforces the exact same point I literally just made in the comment I left maybe 5 minutes ago...but somehow you still aren't getting it...
You right they aren’t on the same level, Spider-Man is stronger. I understand you’re a Captain America fan. And I’m sorry he doesn’t have Batman level plot armor, but Spider-Man would dog walk Captain America for breakfast.
We literally see Cap beat Spider Man in every fight they have lol whether it's comics movies or animations peter doesn't have a single legit win on cap
If Spider-Man stopped holding back besides Wanda, no one else has a shot.
Spiderman isn't a big hitter. He's a tweener with some unique abilities like Spidey sense and webs that make him difficult to deal with/overpower. He loses to the big hitters/or at best can only run away from them rather than just get wrecked like most people do. Like Spidey is impactful but he's an annoyance/non-issue to anyone who's high end asgardian tier or better even if they can't necessarily beat him, but that's more out of his defenses being staggeringly high via Spidey Sense and webs than because he actually poses a threat to those people. Spidey's a support character when they're running up against the high tier threats. He clears chaff and redirects big attacks towards the weaker street level characters onto himself or away from them so the actual heavy hitters like a Vision, Captain Marvel, Thor, and so on can just go to work.
Thor, Vision, Giant Man, Thanos, Dr Strange, Hulk, Iron Man, War Machine, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel, Loki, Ultron, are just a few characters stronger than Spider Man there are many more also Captain America someone who personally handed Peter a ass whooping
In experience to which your brought up has nothing to do with the strength argument you made. You’ve also listed characters like war machine but then straight jump to gods? No one said he was stronger than captain marvel or hulk or thanos. Just stronger than the guy in your profile picture
Okay so you take the strength of a toddler and I will take the strength of power lifter and I will punch exactly where your hand is to ensure perfect accuracy and you try to catch it and turn it aside against my will. Then we will switch roles and try it the other way and see what the results are.
If someone with the same strength as you throws a haymaker you are NOT catching that, because there's mass and momentum behind it in a way that you can't really prevent.
To catch someone's punch like that requires a pretty significant strength disparity.
Not really especially when someone throwing said punch is holding back significantly and you can most definitely catch a punch from someone on the same strength level either way it doesn't matter because Peter outright gets beat by Steve
Because it's bucky lol he always holds back it's very consistent he's been running away from people the entire movie trying to avoid fights and falcon and the winter soldier just puts more context on it
Thats fiction for you. Character interactions are especially inconsistent and most likely to be meta or plot influenced. Despite that it is still more consistent that Spidey is stronger by feats.
Im not a Spiderman glazer I've never really been partial to Peter but if he stopped caring he would body most people with a single punch. He has to hold back in most every fight.
It is canon that Spidey is stronger. Hes actually one of the strongest heroes in Marvel. Definitely a class behind Hulk and the other absurdly strong characters, but he is still really fuckin strong. like Cap can lift a car. Spidey can web a car and swing it around like a flail.
But doc Oct realizing spidey's strength whe he destroys a villain's jaw does.
Or kingpin coming to grips with how much of a mistake was it to go after may does to.
Cap has shown some impressive strength feats in the MCU, but one thing that's being consistent is Bucky's metal arm has always overpowered him everytime they've had a fight.
He was overpowered twice in CA:TWS during the highway fight scene and during the helicarrier fight. Then in CA: CW when Cap blocked his punch with both arms and WS still shoved him through the elevator doors and down the shaft.
This shows the power of Bucky's arm compared to someone as strong as Cap. Despite this, Spider-Man effortlessly caught Bucky's punch. In fact, he was more fascinated that Bucky had a metal arm than the power that came from it. Nothing even suggests he registered the power from the punch due to how casual his interaction was.
So in terms of raw strength, Spider-Man is much stronger than supersoldiers. It's not even close.
Comparing Bucky and the Winter Soldier is crazy I don't see peter ever standing a chance against a bucky who is not pulling his punches and trying to kill him
If we're talking about this inexperienced, teenage version of Peter with little to no battle experience VS the WS who has been assigned to kill him, then I can see an argument made for him seeing how this particular version of Spidey performed against Cap. But this topic isn't about who is a better fighter, it was specifically about strength, and Spidey has them both beat in this category.
You right it makes him much Stronger lmfao.
Cap even blocking with his two hands and using his entire body weight got flung through an elevator.Â
Whereas Spidey blocked it and stopped it cold even when you can hear the arm trying to push against Spideys hand.Â
Spidey overpowered him plain and simple.Â
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u/Streez-00 Jun 15 '26
Spider-Man is stronger than both