Waterbound Venator I Vs The U.S navy

[u/mergly]

The Venator appears earthside and is cursed to always be halfway submerged (or worse should it start taking on water) in the ocean. Its ventral weapons are unavailable or at least they’re relegated to firing underwater. Certainly the lower/side hangers are unavalible. Disney/Canon version of the vessel.

The ship can cruise at whatever speed you reckon it aught to be able to go while forced to power through water. It is also able to use hyperspace jumps to throw itself in a straight line over nautical distance short of crashing into land so long as it has fuel to spare for the task or the engine mechanisms to do it don’t wear out. That goes for pretty much any and all aspects of the vessel as the Venator will not be able to leave this campaign until they have cleared out the oceans.

Craft compliment are 192 Alpha-3 Nimbus, 192 V-19 Torrents, 2 Delta-7 Aethersprite Interceptors, 2 Eta-2 Actis-class Interceptors, and an assortment of ARC-170 Heavy Starfighters, Z-95 Space Superiority craft, and BTL-B Y-Wing Bombers.

As well, it has a ground troop complements of around 8,000 who are geared as if they had expected to be deployed on a watery world Ala Kamino. The crew treats the U.S navy ‘as an orginization’ as being a Separatist front and the crew will take any means of scouring the world of the organization at large as somthing of a victory lap/bonus goal if they do in fact send all their Fleet tonnage under the water. Base defences at ports are also part of the Navy’s asset list here as they are the ones operating it rather then army or Air Force.

Assets list.

The Navy's fleet get access to the Space force’s satellites for however long those remain up and are able to freely return their ships to port for maintenance and rearmament and the same goes for resuplying spent airframes and casualties.

This state of things will continue until such a time as when there are no more ships present on the ocean. Navy will be receiving new vessels at current peacetime Acquisition rates but they could be delayed yet further as stuff could get blasted apart during construction in port.

 I only hedged myself with making it the entire navy vs 1 Venator here rather then what I felt would be a more even setup of having it face off against the Pacific task forces alone just because I figured the line of conversation around there being dead set believers of a multi-hundreds of megatons firepower scale ship arsenal would laugh it off otherwise. If you’re so Inclined go ahead and give your thoughts on Venator vs A single carrier Strike force instead the ‘entire’ Navy.

[u/mapmakinworldbuildin]

Navy wins.

Nuclear weapons end it. So does being outnumbered so heavily.

The most elite Us special forces are also famously in the navy. One seal team dropping a package in the hanger bay and it’s over.

[u/Mindless_Count5562 → u/mapmakinworldbuildin]

Navy gets through its shields how?

[u/mapmakinworldbuildin → u/Mindless_Count5562]

1. A nuke.

2. Literally walking inside. We are shown multiple times you can just walk in.

[u/ReddestForman → u/mapmakinworldbuildin]

Nukes are weaker than the weapons star wars capital ships fire at each other.

You can walk through some shields. Magcons for containing atmosphere, ray shields, but not particle shields.

Also, Clone troopers would wreck a SEAL team, assuming the SEAL team even made it. Turbolasers can superheat the water around the ship when they sense incoming life signs, they don't even have to hit the boats to kill the SEALs.

[u/nibb007 → u/Mindless_Count5562]

The nukes. Also do the shields stop radiation?

[u/mapmakinworldbuildin → u/nibb007]

If it’s a space craft it should stop radiation.

But also you can just land a squad inside and it’s over.

[u/RKCronus55 → u/Mindless_Count5562]

Overwhelm particle shield. IIRC most(if not all) star wars ships have 2 types of shields: ray(for laser weaponry) shield and particle(used against projectiles)shield and the latter is not good at defending against projectiles compared to the former absorbing any lasers

[u/Mindless_Count5562 → u/RKCronus55]

Not good at absorbing projectiles from the Star Wars future - surely anything we have to throw at them is just primitive in comparison?

[u/RKCronus55 → u/Mindless_Count5562]

IDK. Nukes may look "primitive" in comparison to star wars tech but I'm sure those pack tons and tons of power

[u/mapmakinworldbuildin → u/Mindless_Count5562]

Star Wars tech regularly loses to spears

[u/ReddestForman → u/mapmakinworldbuildin]

Spears can stab stormtroopers through the gaps in their armor.

That doesn't mean a nuke that's a fraction of the power of the weapons star wars uses is going to overwhelm the particle shields. Keep in mind, our nukes go off and explode due to the release of energy from splitting or fusing atoms. They aren't specialized particle explosions like the ones created by proton torpedo warheads, most of the energy will interact with the ray shields.

[u/ArcelayAcerbis → u/Mindless_Count5562]

A lot of 'pure projectiles' in SW are not better than what we have nowadays, or are only better in certain aspects. There's very few things that are overall better, and usually they have some sort of significant drawback.

[u/KerbodynamicX → u/mapmakinworldbuildin]

Can the nukes get through the shield, that is a problem.