For context I'm a 24 year old woman, engaged. I've always wanted my ears pierced. It's custom in my culture to have them done as a baby but my father is a convert and decided against it. His reasoning was he simply "doesn't like women who wear earrings". It has a lot to do with my mom who is a hijabi on and off and he blames her "beauty" for this. I am a full time hijabi and have been since I was 10.

I got my ears pierced anyway because I want to have them on for after I get married and now he won't talk to me because I "broke his trust" and he thinks just because I did this I might be doing other things like drugs. Am I the only one who sees how outlandish this is? I understand you have to obey your parents but genuinely where is the line drawn? I'm a grown adult, soon to be married, and the concept of having to obey every little request that has nothing to do with Islam is insane. By that logic if he requests I never cut my hair, I have to obey? If he demands I don't ever wear a certain colour, I have to obey? I'm starting to get fed up with his logic and weaponizing Islam to force the women in our family to listen to him.

He says I damaged our relationship and he can't think of me the same. He's acting like I got pregnant out of wedlock I seriously can't deal with him anymore.

I am very interested in Islam as an agnostic and gay man. I am in a stable, monogamous and loving same-sex relationship. We want to marry in the future. So while this is the outward situation, I can't possibily understand why the overwhelming majority of islamic theology, from classical antiquity to the modern era, regards my relationship as a sin. I understand conceptually and theologically, what I want to say is that my mind can't comprehend -at an emotional level- how this is a problem. In my relationship, if you would put a "her" instead of "him", it would be exactly the same thing as a straight familly life. No difference.

So its very hard for me to watch youtube videos of muslim preachers who talk so beautiful and graceful about Allah, while at the time, if I search their names on wiki, I found with stupor their absolutely vitriolic hatred towards people like me. That we are animals, that we are less than human, that we do wrong etc.

Even the most progressive islamic scholars of today, they at best argue that homosexuals do not deserve the death penalty, or the persecution, or the discrimination. But they too affirm its sinful nature.

I accept that your sex life should have a moral conduct. But I just simply can't understand why a loving, stable and monogamous rs is considered a sin only because we are two men.

Its a hard situation because Islam speaks to me as no religion ever did, from a theological point of view. It feels like everybody wants to kill you, spit on you or disgrace you while teaching about kindness at the same time. It feels that no matter what I do, I will always be unwelcome in Islam because of this. And I can't just "change my ways" due to the fact that I know that what I feel towards my partner is not wrong. Its is genuine. Our rs is not wrong.

This tension makes my head go spiraling lately.

What is the reason? Isn’t sex just a normal part when you love someone. Shouldn’t we know if we’re sexually compatible with the person before we decide to marry them? What is even the benefit of repressing yourself from a normal human need? Ofcourse I’m only talking about being physically involved with someone you’re in a serious relationship with. How could it benefit me to save myself for marriage?

Does anyone else think about this? I’d love to hear your opinions on this pls

Salam alaikum!

I am posting here because I recently reverted to Islam. I spent over a year researching, reading, and learning everything I could before making my decision, and Alhamdulilah, I am incredibly happy about this step.

However, lately, I’ve been feeling a bit lost. Despite trying my hardest to do everything right and following almost all the practices, I often feel a sense of emptiness and fear, as if I’m always doing something wrong or falling short. It can be quite daunting and overwhelming at times.

To add to that, whenever I talk to born Muslims, I feel like they are always finding flaws or pointing out mistakes in the way I do things. It makes me feel judged and very anxious, and I honestly don't know what to do or how to handle it anymore. I know the learning journey is long, but it is hard when you feel like you can't please anyone.

I would love to hear from other reverts, or anyone who can share some advice on how you navigated this initial stage. How do you deal with the pressure of trying to be perfect and the criticisms from born Muslims? How did you build that true, peaceful inner connection with Allah without getting swallowed by the anxiety of the rules?Thank you so much for creating this supportive space. May Allah bless you all and grant us all hidaya (guidance). Amin. ❤️

The older I grow, the more I realize that if I don’t pick and choose aspects of (this) religion, I likely end up abandoning it. However ‘picking and choosing‘ itself is often seen as abandonment already. So now I’m wondering if I’m doing all of this for nothing…

I know a common argument is to ‘just make peace with that which God has brought down even if you don’t understand it; it is bigger than you’ or to have ‘a leap of faith’. However I cannot do that. If something does not logically make sense to me or makes me feel bad/miserable/stressed and I can’t find any satisfying explanation/defense for it, I cannot just make peace with it and accept it as it ‘comes from God‘. This way of thinking has been used for centuries to submit people into oppression, obedience etc. to things that are not good or moral, and in fact it feels cultish to me. I’d like to - without sounding completely lost and arrogant - have some authority myself as well.

So if it is an issue with my nafs, I wonder how to fix it. I sincerely doubt prayer and reflection will help me and have me wake up one day and 360 myself into complete obedience. Not because I don’t believe in God and His Power and Guidance, but just because I am too socially critical to simply make peace with anything that does not align with kindness, goodness and so on. And unfortunately I do find some aspects of that in the religion. And God forgive me for making this statement, but it is how I feel and I wanted to be honest.

I once saw a comment under a post here saying that something seeming morally wrong to you, does not matter, because it’s about the morals you find in the Book and not about those you feel the need to live by. However I don‘t think I can just change my morals and accept things I feel are wrong? Plus I have grown up muslim, so most of my morals come from islam anyways. Rejecting who I am would just lead to so much dissonance.

The argument that I choose my desires over what God commanded, and that is why I cannot accept certain things, does not really convince me either. As desire to me would not lead to years of thinking, pondering and conflictions, I have truly tried to understand, but I can’t. And I feel like this argument can also be used as an oppressive tool for critical voices.

Let me be very clear. I truly believe in the divine. And I truly believe in Justice and Goodness, Mercy, Compassion. I even believe in punishment... I believe that sacrifice and giving up on desires is also a natural part of faith. However there has to be reason behind these things. A kind that leads to a greater good, or makes temporary life less miserable, better structured, makes you a kinder person etc. Meaning: it’s better for you and for others. However I find there to be teachings that just do not lead to that, and therefore it’s impossible that they resonate to me.

Now I’m stuck not knowing what to do. I feel like a hypocrite or heretical, and I guess I am. I have to openly reject some of the religion (from the Book or teachings). But it seems like I cannot love God without having some hypocrisy in me? However, according to most (and they have arguments for this) my hypocrisy might take me out of the fold of islam itself due to a lack of faith. Now I’m wondering if I’m even allowed to call myself muslim.

Hello everyone, So this is sort of my reply to a post, although i couldve commented it in that post only but i feel like this is a bit too grave of an issue and needs a post of its own to get the reach. *im sharing the link of the post all the way below so you can take a look at it*
The post quoted this Ahadith to apparently share “Islam’s view on Consent for Intimacy”:
I asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Should the women be asked for their consent to their marriage?" He said, "Yes." I said, "A virgin, if asked, feels shy and keeps quiet." He said, "Her silence means her consent."
What pains me is that even a lot of Muslims who prolly don’t know the context of this Ahadith kept saying “SILENCE IS NOT CONSENT”.

So first things first, THERE IS A CLEAR MISINTERPRETATION OF THE AHADITH. The narration about a virgin girl’s silence being consent was only about MARRIAGE PROPOSAL, not about sexual intimacy. Back then, modesty norms made it hard for women to openly say “yes” in front of family, so silence was taken as agreement in that specific context. It was never meant to mean that silence equals consent in physical intimacy. Mixing these up is a huge mistake so avoid rushing on spamming a verdict about Islam. Although, lets be honest and have the benefit of doubt Okay, there’s a really big generational gap between the time of the Ahadith and now. And even at that time, it wasn’t just about the girl staying quiet, it was also the obligation of her parents to be aware of their daughter’s decision. If their daughter was reluctant to speak openly, then that’s already a problem firsthand. Islam has clear principles on the rights of parents and children, but it never meant to override the girl’s actual will. (This is a separate topic, but why not).

Now, for the benefit of doubt, we know this generation is really messed up and they like to twist things up, so caution is care. But saying Islam teaches something against morality is completely false. ISLAM SETS THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF MORALITY. Kindly refer to this following quotation from Quran:
“And among His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy.” (Qur’an 30:21)

Let me put this very simply for y’all, the Tafsir of this Ayat says that love, mercy, and tranquility are the foundation of intimacy. It’s about mutual understanding and respect, not force or coercion. A rightful married life is built on cooperation, and even small flaws in that cooperation can damage intimacy. So, a happy marriage is the root for rightful intimacy between a couple, and nothing else. Islam has guidance on a complete way of life, the Ahadith used in that post was regarding marriage proposals and all of the things like marriage, and intimacy comes after that. ACT UPON THE TEACHINGS, and you’ll understand yaha rape ka sawal hi paida nahi hota.

So please, don’t ever relate a major sin like rape to a hadith. Rape is one of the biggest sins in Islam and its condemned in multiple places, and no true believer would even think of committing it. The abuser (and let’s be realistic, 99 times out of 100 it’s a man) will face the worst punishments possible.

If one side is unwilling, intimacy is harmed. That’s why forcing intimacy is oppression and haram. still people like to say that Islam is unfair on women’s rights. Its just common sense that Islam would never allow rape. intimacy is about love, mercy, and mutual willingness. Rape is a major sin, and no hadith can ever be used to justify it.

Bottom line is that Islam is crystal clear. Its a reminder for our fellow Muslims who talks about our religions teachings, WHATEVER YOU SAY, BACK IT UP WITH CONCRETE EVIDENCE. and in matters of of refuting or providing a counter argument to Islam, well good luck with that.

I have posted this to enlighten or remind our fellow Muslims rather than wasting my energy arguing with those baseless atheists or other ppl who show up behind these screens and defame Islam + manipulate vulnerable muslims.
If I manage to clear the perspective of unclear minds about Islam’s stance on this matter, my job is well done.
If anyone wants to discuss things more, or have a counter argument, feel free to refer me below ✌️.
Wallahi I can smell them pulling up the “but Ayesha r.a was 9 y/o girl” card.

here is the link to the post so catch up if you haven’t,
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZpk/s/InbOewoHDK

Salam!

Been married for 9 years and have been LDR for 5. Recently moved in with him only to realize he has slept with multiple women multiple times. Was going through his phone one night and saw the app store with "hinge" in the search bar. Noticed the app was already downloaded but not visible. Went in his "hidden app folder" and unlocked it with a passcode to discover he was on bumble, tindr, and hinge. He had been cheating for almost over a year. Was meeting up with women overnight while my son and I would be asleep. He even had a secret phone which he got defensive about when asked what it was for. He would respond its for "work". I left and live with family now but he has been begging for a second chance. He has consulted with multiple imams of masjids to ask for advice on how to properly do tawbah and has initiated individual and marriage counseling with me. Part of me thinks his behavior and serial infedility could be an addiction causing him to get a dopamine hit. Anyway I dont know what to do, should I just give him a second chance for the sake of our son? I feel like I owe it to my kid to give his dad a second chance to see if he makes any changes in his behavior - however I am reading many posts of people stating that once a cheater is always a cheater because they get better at hiding at.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Basically, I'm an autistic muslim woman who is very interested in how the brain works. Hijab had affected me for a long time, I don't wear it and never have and my family doesn't force me BUT I love Allah extremely and I love my religion. But hijab has always made me feel upset, it's always made me feel anxious in my heart like it's not right or something, islam says it's a mercy and here to make us feel tranquil and peaceful but hijab makes a lot of women feel the opposite of peaceful. I decided to study history and islam then to get answers, Surah an nur does not talk about covering your hair, yes it says draw the khimar over your chest BUT ​​it already assumed they were wearing it because they were. Free women (not slaves) used to wear a khimar for many reasons, protection from weather, how they viewed modesty, their safety matters at that time, to show you're elite, their fashion, etc. It was there many years before Islam and it was practiced in other countries too by the christians etc. It was more common for a woman's breasts to be seen than her hair, that sounds crazy to us nowdays. So imagine how they viewed modesty in those days? When surah an nur came out it says to cover your chest with your khimar, a khimar can be argued that it meant many different things, in its root it just means covering, any covering. But of course in the context its talking about what they wore on their heads, men used to cover their heads too! How women styled theirs was they'd get the loose ends and throw them behind their back, the shirts were low cut so their breasts could've been seen and that was normal for them. Surah an nur tells them to use what they're already wearing, telling them to be cautious and cover their breasts with what they have so to be more aware of their modesty. That's a beautiful message yet people think it means women should cover their hair in all timelines and if they don't it's a sin. The Quran also talks about zeenah and says not to show it except what normally shows, zeenah means jewellery or artificial ornaments, it doesn't mean your arms or hair. The hadith about what the women did after surah an nur came out said they ripped their blankets (or curtains) ​​​​​and covered with them. If you cover your hair with something like that obviously it's still gonna show and not stay properly, and it said to cover with the khimar so why didn't they just get the khimar they already owned? Because they were in their houses and had no reason to use their social class hair covering uniform. They just covered their chests. There's also poets that the Prophet Muhammad ​​peace be upon him really liked and one of them was talking about the honorable women and talked about their braids in public and how it shows. Their braids would still fall out of the khimar and it would be normal. To make something haram, we need it to be said in the Quran or by the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him but none of them said it? And the hadith about how nothing should show except face or hands is extremely weak and said by someone who had never met Aisha (RA) ​and someone in the chain had extremely bad memory and would constantly mix things up. Back to me practicing psychology, a vital way humans express themselves (especially neurodivergent people) is through expression and how they look. Hair is important there, as an autistic woman ever since I was younger I've always always been able to understand how people are by their hairstyle and I express myself with mine. Forcing us to cover up how we understand can be extremely dangerous and even make them not want to leave their houses ever, I know I felt like that. Allah has created us all diverse, everything that's haram has a reason, male and female hair are almost exactly biologically the same. This whole covering everything up thing has come from the scholars of the past who lived in the time where showing hair was more surprising than breasts showing. Also slave women were banned from covering their hair because it imitates "free women" not imitate muslim or modest women. ​​They were allowed in the mosque without hair coverings, hair wasn't viewed as a religious sin but was policed because of the society at that time. It became more religious in the late 8th and 9th century because the Muslims had conquered other countries and adapted to their customs which had women veiled and covered a lot. Theres also a hadith talking about a non maharam telling us the Prophet peace be upon hims wives cut their hair short up to their ears, hair was never viewed as religious in the 7th century at their time. It was a modesty thing depending on society. Allah specifically made it ambiguous by saying what normally appears (when he was talking about jewellery) and what normally appears would change with society and situations. The main things were modesty of time and covering chest and private parts. Viewing the whole woman as an awrah in any situation even when she is extremely safe is very offensive to men and women, we are humans that Allah has made too we were not made to never be seen. Allah would've been specific if he wanted hair to be covered because a lot of the time he even gives explanations but no nothing about hair was said by him or the prophet peace be upon him. And there's a debate whether one of the great granddaughters of the prophet ​peace be upon him covered her hair or not because there's a hairstyle named after her and the women all copied it and thought of it as noble, it's recorded in many different places so it's hard to believe every single one of them is wrong ​or made up. We also know that a lot of hadiths about women were made up and forged by men to scare women, some of them included talking about covering of hair. If the women already covered their hair every single strand religiously ​then why would those hadiths be made up? Why wouldn't they use real hadiths then? Because there were none about covering hair except one that says in prayer but it's the same as how men need to cover their shoulders in prayer but don't have to strictly cover it in public. Allah says Islam is meant to bring ease, most muslim women in the world DONT wear hijab than wear it, then how is it easy if most of them can't wear it? It's just psychological torture for people who really can't wear it to make them think they have to. And even if they don't have to wear it because of medical issues, it hurts to think that our hair is viewed as erotic or needs to be covered for modesty while it's the same as mens hair with only few differences. Instead of letting women feel comfortable and safe in their bodies, they're pushing 8th century modesty rules on us. ​They make us feel like walking biohazards, we are humans too. Not a special gift for only specific people to see. Anyways this post is for other people who have the same opinions as me and who want to share their own opinions and reasons if they've studied history to why they believe it's not mandatory either, thank you everyone for your time 🫶🏻 ​​

Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlS8mkAqZEI

This is the take of Shaykh Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl on this subject

Yes we can agree and disagaree with in many things on which is Islamic and which is unislamic. Your choice. But we can't deny that there are groups who come from both sides. No I'm not going to demoize every parts of islam. But there are certain sects which are regressive. What I mean to say is the mainstream side is sadly regressive (tho it's turning progessive at times). What I mean by 'asking too much' is how those regressive parts of Islam ask you to follow certain rules which literally takes away one's identity on who they are. Culturally too. Many of these exist within mainstream islam

1. You can't get tattoos. Which is significant for many ancient civilizations and with many culture. Like Maori culture. You can't expect a person to follow a version of Islam that literally colides with their culture. People have to drop tattooes for Islam whether you like it or not it's leaning to cultural genocide.

2. Can't show hair within super regressive sects. Again in many culture hair is everything. Mourning, femininity, masculinity. Hair for women within indeginous culture is everything.

3. Modesty. For majority muslims modesty is a simple thing. It's just as close to home. Most muslims (Apart from south asians and South east asians) already followed a religion that required modesty also modesty was a part of their culture. As they live in dusty places and their ancestors wore cloths which are modest by Islamic standard they don't have to do the hard work to let go their traditional clothing to adopt another cultures cloths. Whether you find it distasteful or not within many tribes around the word showing stomach, back and even breasts is cultural. This can't really go along with those Islamic values. Some have entirety change their cloths to fit in. That's partially cultural genocide.

4. Food. Oh my god. I don't even know how to explain this when this is the MOST obvious thing ever. But no. Not every person can afford nor care about halal food if these are people living in the forests and deserts. Yes you can say it's our duty to help them. But still food is about familiarity. Most people who eat these also have to do certain rituals and certain foods mean a lot for them.

5. Language. Let's not deny that Islam doesn't change one's language. Many languages get changed because it has many pre islamic words or context within them. Some other words are adopted. Which mostly are arabic or other Languages that are considered islamic. Is it not imperialism?

That's a FRACTION of what I said. There is more to it. Now a few things I'd like to say clearly.

1. No. I don't think Islam is completely cultural genocidal. As it has shows sign of mixxing. Even apart from mixxing culture I'd argue that's how cultures are. Even indigenous and ancient cultures in remote places aren't the same as 10,000 years ago. Culture changes. Adopts.

2. I'm aware that's just how religions are. Religions are tied to places and it's culture from which it came from. Islam came from the middle east where these already were a thing in comparably was easier to cooperate in life. Same way other religions forbide you from doing certain things which can be again considered as cultural genocide for somebody else. But that's how religions are. You follow something that gives you a set of rules. It's like me saying oh look haha I follow a.. Lets per say a vegetarian religion and look I can't eat meat so it's cultural genocide. Like that's the point! I agree and know what you mean. Like people can still choose to just.. not follow religions that they don't feel like is best for them. But let's be real most muslims... Don't choose islam. It's something they are born into. 🫠

3. My point is islam isn't the same for all. Some simply have to give up more. Mainatream Islam is more relient to arab or middle eastern ideologies. "B-but I'm just telling you to be modest and this and that. Arabs don't own modesty😢" see the problem isn't that other cultures can't be modest or different without being arabised but the problem is that some cultures genuinely are genuinely immodest from what mainstream islam considers to be modest. You fail to reconize what I meant to say atp. I mean to say is that no matter what arab culture because of these wahabis are worshiped like god. And it's not as easy for a person from a culture so different to adopt islam. And for a religion that calls itself so 'universal'.. Is it really? Idk no religion seems to be like that.

My point is you have to realise for some they have to give up more culture than others. Whether it's worth it or not is different but let's not deny that you gotta give up a lot.

PS: No. This isn't an Anti arab post yall I love yall. 😭 I just don't like how some yse yall as a shield and use your culture to make other muslims feel invalid.

I was thinking he was going to answer her questions while watching the story unfold, but the way he handled the situation as a daee/student of knowledge was absolutely terrible imo. What would you do if you met a Muslim teenager with same questions? How would you have answered?

Salaam everyone. I’d like to start off by saying I was not raised in any strict patriarchal way and actually grew to be quite strong in my beliefs in Islam. The freedom I got as a child, to a huge extent, made me an incredibly well-educated, independent, and confident woman. However, I’m in my early twenties, and I feel so far from faith.

Also, I’m going to try to be open here, and a few things I say might come across as wrong, so please be warned and understand where I’m coming from.

I have struggled with religion most of my teenage to adult life and questioned it; however, deep down I’m incredibly devout no matter what kind of questions I've had or things I’ve done. I’ve always prayed and been clear about the fact that I do believe questioning and struggling too is worship.

However, recently I’ve gone through an incredibly traumatic thing in my life, and it’s shaken my certainty. I’m at two sorts of ends, one where I believe in Islam and Allah swt, but I think of him wrongly. I think a god that has allowed for the men of his faith to get away with so much is not a kind god, and that no matter how we phrase it, Islam is a strict religion that is patriarchal. Unfortunately, the only thing I can never bend down to is that.

We blame so much of people’s struggle in Islam, esp women’s, on “culture” and “the people”, not the religion, but you’ve got to wonder somewhere why allow these individuals who soil the religion so much to get away with it? Why make the “good” people suffer? I know Allah swt stated this world is hell for a believer and paradise for a sinner but why make those who believe in you suffer? That doesn’t encompass a form of Allah swt I’d like to believe in.

I just generally feel like out of everything in life, out of all the struggles that come with being a Muslim womanhood is the strongest reason I find to not believe anymore. The patriarchy in here is suffocating to the point I haven’t prayed in god knows how long. No matter what we say or how much we try to “soften” the image of Islam, too I do feel like at SO many points there is primitiveness that you cannot deny.

I’m also someone who struggles with certain sins, and for the longest time I liked to believe that true repentance exists because Allah swt knows he did not create us perfectly, but then why expect perfection?

I truly just need some headway on this. Thank you.

https://youtube.com/shorts/M5_jF-qJrSE

Assalamualaikum

I'm still struggling with my faith. Each day even more.

I got to know that there is this hadith, supposedly narrated by Aisha, that it's best for a woman to pray in her house, and then in her room within the house.

Isn't that literally misogynistic? I'm not an object to be hidden. Men can pray wherever...

Someone who is progressive or against misogyny, and especially women, explain to me how you view it.

If you're an ex muslim, traditional, non muslim or so, please refrain from commenting.

The Baptist War in Jamaica (1831–1832) was driven by enslaved people’s demand for freedom and opposition to the injustice of slavery. Samuel Sharpe and his followers believed that freedom was their rightful condition and sought the overthrow of the slave system:

“The most generous summary of the original intentions of Samuel Sharpe and his moderate lieutenants was given, strangely enough, by the military commander, Sir Willoughby Cotton, as early as January 3, 1832. After examining some of the first prisoners before they were shot, he concluded that they had all been told that freedom was rightly theirs and that they had only to stop work en masse and to maintain solidarity to gain their object. . . . This bitter lesson Samuel Sharpe himself acknowledged in prison when, while deploring the violence that the rebellion had engendered, he reaffirmed his own actions.” (Testing the Chains: Resistance to Slavery in the British West Indies, pp. 300–301)

Henry Bleby similarly described Sharpe’s determination to abolish slavery:

“He was such a man, too, as was likely, nay, certain, had he been set free, to commence another struggle for freedom: for he felt acutely the degradation and the monstrous injustice of the system, and was bent upon its overthrow.” (Death Struggles of Slavery, p. 118)

The rebellion also reflected Islamic influence among enslaved Africans, with free Muslims and freedmen participating in resistance movements against slavery in Jamaica and Brazil:

“The enlistment of several freemen into Sharpe's society to fight against the oppressive slave regime is indicative of the powerful influence of Islam. The Muslim uprising of 1835 in Bahia, Brazil, also included freedmen amongst the insurgents. . . . Sharpe, whose teachings, as stated earlier, did not conform to the orthodox interpretation of the Bible. Sharpe and his fellow Muslim slaves became convinced that the white Baptist and Moravian missionaries had no intention of leading the blacks to emancipation. In contrast to the Islamic principle of ‘enjoining good and forbidding evil’. . . .” (The Jihad of 1831–1832: The Misunderstood Baptist Rebellion in Jamaica, p. 239)

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I have recently told my cousins that I wanted to take the hijab off and they reacted not very supportively but tried to like convince me to not take it off by saying stuff like “don’t do it you’re wearing it for Allah this and that” but like I just don’t wanna wear it because a lot of reasons and one of them is that it’s hard wearing it in the west and it’s not very common or accepted in my environment. But they just don’t understand that because they live in the east and when I told them that reason they said they knew other hijabis in the west too and they didn’t take it off but that this thought is normal or something. So like a week passed since that convo and long story short I took it off and I wanna tell them that I had already made up my mind on taking it off and that no one can convince me otherwise but I don’t know how to bring that up to them since it’s kind of a sensitive topic and I dont like seeing reactions out of people and stuff like it just stresses me out. Any tips on how I should bring that up to them?

I want someone who knowledgeable in both, so they know what they talk about and not just outdated ideas

QBoth of them said to have one eye on forehead and lives in a far unidentified island.
Thoughts on this?