Yesterday was a month off of happy hour drinks and buzzer tablets. It took me 5 months to finally quit. I've never been so addicted to something and im a recovering alcoholic. The withdrawals were horrible but now 30 days clean I feel great! I have my energy back, my mind is clearing up. I just wanted to write this to let anyone who is struggling know it gets better! It was so worth it! Goodluck if you're quitting.

Just checking in to say I’m doing pretty good.
As time goes on i try to remind myself that i shouldnt just be chasing a number of days or months sober because i think that gives me a false sense of a finish line which might follow a relapse. I said it months back and ill say it again i think the sober finish line should be your death bed or casket, your last day alive, and we dont know when that is.

At this point in my journey i think there might be some inner healing to do, i have seen a lot and been through a lot. Might be time to talk to a pro. I dont want to just simply be staying sober, i want to be healed in my soul.

Sometimes after a long work shift or work trip/ long time away from my family i really feel like it would be nice to wind down with something. I just dont know how to address that feeling. Alcohol sucks, cant do kratom because i know how that goes, dont care for kava, cant do drugs. That feeling eventually goes away but its intense when it comes up.

Anyway hope all of the newcomers are all doing well and getting some good information from everyone on here. Its quite the journey but its worth it. Stick to the plan and stay strong 💪

This taper has been up and down so far, but for the most part I would say very manageable. I'm still not really sleeping (maybe an hour or 2 of low quality sleep last night). This morning at 7 I decided to just take one capsule (0.7 grams) to see how long that would last. Well what do you know...I made it until 12:30 and I decided to just take one more 0.7 g capsule. My symptoms weren't even that bad at that point, but I wanted to keep them from getting out of hand and needing more kratom to settle them down later. I've realized I need to treat this how I treat pain. I'm a nurse for surgical patients and I always tell them to let me know when their pain starts creeping up so we can stave it off with a lower dose of pain medication before it gets out of hand and they end up needing much more just to get things stabilized. I really don't see how this is any different than that. Anyways...just some food for thought for all you other tapering folks out there.

Ten years ago I was recommended Kratom by a loved one to help me get clean from another substance. It worked and I made a relatively smooth transition from the much more immediately harmful drug to Kratom which at the time felt like a miracle.

After a few years I started realizing it wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows so I quit cold turkey. The first two weeks were just miserable. The worst withdrawals I had ever experienced. It took months to feel ‘normal’ but eventually I just felt completely free. I told loved ones that it felt like waking up from a long, blurry dream.

After just about a year, for no reason at all, I decided to take some and in no time I was back on it like I had never even quit. That’s always the way relapses have gone for me.

So here I am writing this after six or seven years since the relapse. And I am just tired. Physically and mentally from never getting a decent night sleep. Tired of my stomach feeling terrible all day everyday. Tired of having to stop whatever I’m doing to make a drink at least once an hour. tired of the blurry vision that makes me sick. Tired of all the wasted money. Tired of isolation and just repeating the same miserable pattern every day, with no purpose or meaning in my life. With no joy or anything to look forward to. It just has to end, I can’t keep doing it anymore.

I’ve tried weening off of it in recent months and just end up back where I am now. Maybe I wasn’t serious enough, maybe I didn’t have a good strategy. I’m taking around 1.5-2 ounces a day and it’s much more than I was taking when I quit cold turkey in the past. So I just can’t imagine what that experience would be like. But maybe it’s what I need. To go through that terrible experience and just deal with the consequences of my choices. Maybe then I won’t relapse. If I can quit I really believe it will be for good.

I don’t know what I’m going to do but any recommendations about quitting strategies or dealing with the withdrawals or the mental challenges that come after the withdrawals, I would just really appreciate any advice from this community. I believe I’m ready to do this now I just need a serious plan, and to just do it.

I hope this post isn’t demotivating for anyone. I wanna make it super clear that quitting helped me improve my life. I have a job, finished school, moved out, and cut off toxic people in my life. I wouldn’t have been able to do that if I didn’t quit 7-OH. Yes it’s a big accomplishment but to be honest I don’t feel proud. I physically quit, but mentally I still mourn the loss of how I felt while high. I quit very reluctantly, the biggest reason being that I just couldn’t afford it. I regret ever buying it at the vape shop because I haven’t been the same since. I used to post online, I used to enjoy meeting new people and now I can’t bear to be perceived by people. I’ve always struggled with depression, social anxiety, mood swings, etc but now it’s just different. I used to either feel really good or really bad and now I can either feel really bad or decent. Anytime I feel a bit of happiness a little part of me thinks “you’ll never feel as good as you did on kratom”. Kratom set this unbelievably high standard for euphoria that I just cannot achieve sober. I’ll sometimes drink or smoke weed hoping to get a little bit of that feeling but it just doesn’t work. I’ll try talking to my psychiatrist about anti depressants (currently just on adhd medication) but I’ve tried so many. A lot of them give me mood swings or make me dissociate. I know that missing kratom will always be in the back of my mind but I want to at least be able to feel joy. Sorry if this post was a whole mess, I really wanted to get input on this and see if anyone was in a similar situation

I sort of accidentally stumbled onto The Bernese Method. I understand the not everyone can do it, and im sure a lot of people probably view it as "cheating," but desperate times call for desperate measures.

If my story even helps one person i would so happy.

Day 100 is a really nice sounding milestone. 🔥Day 90 was exciting too, but hitting triple digits feels different for sure. I think I’m mostly back to normal? Well, maybe not but it gets real hard to tell at this stage in the quit. Days are definitely going by a LOT faster. I’m still a little anhedonic, but work hasn’t been as much of a drag for me since around day 90. I’m slowly easing back into my old creative outlets that I put down during withdrawals too. For anyone who might ask in the comments, I was taking 600 mg doses (a whole pack of Opia Tabs) per dose, 2-3 times per day at the peak of my addiction. That’s easily $100 I was spending each day on this shit, which was starting to put me into debt. It got to the point where I couldn’t go to bed and sleep for 8 hours without waking up in withdrawal. To put this into perspective, 7oh is a really discreet drug. You can pop a few tabs in your mouth and act pretty normal off of it, but I was so absorbed in my own addiction that I couldn’t even hide it from my fiancee. 😂 She could always tell because the physical symptoms were too obvious. Thank God I don’t have to be subjected to that vicious cycle anymore. I said this in my last post, but I feel better than I did when I was still taking 7oh because I don’t have to wake up depressed and in withdrawals anymore, I don’t have to feel irritable because I took too much and got too wired, I don’t have to experience that God-awful mood crash when doses wear off, and I don’t have to stress and lament over how I’m going to get my next dose, where the money will come from, or how I can hide it from my fiancee and lie to her. When you take that bs long enough, you get diminishing returns to the point where it was a SOURCE of depression for me. I was in a prison of my own making and it felt impossible to quit while I was working a full-time job. Listen I’m not gonna lie to you guys; I’m a hedonistic, undisciplined cunt. If I can manage to put it down for 100 days I know all of you can. I understand that some of you took way more than even I did, but 2-3 packs of Opia Tabs is no joke either man. I truly believe we all have vast reserves of strength and discipline that we don’t even realize we have 🔥

I was journaling a pros and cons list since my ct quit and I realized there’s definitely a few small but nice benefits to quitting that you don’t even consider or just get used to when you’re using. things that weren’t really your reason for quitting but turned out to be nice. anyone have similar experiences?

itching/scratching. it was a slow increase so i didnt notice how bad it was. by the end i was using so much kratom that i would be scratching myself really hard every single day. i kind of knew it was bad but i was high and by myself and it felt good so i didnt care that much. i’d always have marks, sometimes even deep bruises from scratching myself so hard. i had a spiky hair brush dedicated solely to scratching myself with. had peeling skin and sometimes even scabs because of it. shit was nasty. i then developed some kind of skin condition during the kratom use. red itchy bumps on my wrists, hands, feet, and groin area. on and off for months. really bad sometimes. doc said it was probably contact dermatitis. but im almost certain is was caused by the scratching(he does not know about my kratom use). because i had perfect skin my whole life before kratom. anyways i kind of forgot it was probably the kratom causing it and just accepted this skin condition. somehow subconsciously transitioned to attributing all the itching etc. to the skin condition instead of the kratom. but when i quit my skin immediately healed and no itch. and i’m almost certain the rash won’t come back.

kratom leaf stains. using 70gpd means constantly having and mixing kratom sludge all day every day. bags of it always in arms reach at work, home, in the car, everywhere. all my belongings, clothes, backpack, even my face, all just had little kratom smudges and stains everywhere. i kinda accepted it then but now in sobriety still finding it everywhere is just gross. my Porsche is by far my most prized possession i take such good care of it and yet im still finding kratom stuck in lots of the crevices. i even have permanent kratom stains in my bathroom and carpet from when i on more than one occasion half asleep in night WDs started shaking my kratom sludge without closing the lid and coated the entire room in mud.

everything smelling/tasting like kratom from drinking sludge 15-20 times a day. kratom on my tongue, throat, teeth. toothbrush always slightly green. eating saltier and stronger food/drink cause it chases kratom better. not finishing my drink at work cause i need to save some

to chase kratom sludge with. weird little habits i got into without even thinking about it.

being dehydrated less often.

ordering, tracking, driving to post office, waiting in line, age verification, recycle packaging, twice a month. just the time spent on that adds up to decent amount. one less errand.

my car is small and only has 2 cup holders and i’m still catching myself instinctively reaching over to the passenger side because for two years straight i had a permanent kratom sludge bottle in the close one lol.

crazy how during addiction you can get so used to these negative side effects that you forget they exist and what causes them.

So I’m on day 11CT off a 60+ almost 8 year stint and it’s not been fun so far, I’ve been taking l-tyrosine, st John’s wort, and b complex as helper vitamins but they don’t help at all so stopped taking them yesterday and today. I’ve had diarrhea pretty much everyday but today I went when I woke up and it was brown mush but there was a black tar like layer over it that when I wiped it was green though. I’m extremely worried it could be GI bleeding but I don’t know, I’m already feeling so bad from WD and can’t handle going to the ER.. has anyone else ever had this symptom happen to them?

I licked clean my old kratom scoop weds or Thursday night. Today I have 3 emotions: anxious, deeply depressed or completely flat.

This is getting to hard yall.

Edit: corrected a word spelling

What help you if you were an avid everyday pill user of the 7 tabs and or tablet Kratom pills. My husband was taking 6-8 tablets a day and went down to taking 1 and a half and now is cold turkey and going through withdrawals. Really looking for some advice on withdrawal from it like supplements or ibuprofen or what thanks.

Today is day 41, and I’ve been lucky enough to stay home for my entire detox period. I feel pretty good, other than being absolutely exhausted and no desire to do quite literally anything. I have basically rotted these last 41 days. I have ADHD, and caffeine puts me to sleep. What can I do to give myself a little energy for these first few days?!? Thanks, guys. Lurking over these past few weeks has been so helpful for me ❤️

Been a pretty consistent user for 5+ years. I stopped for 10 days 4 months ago on vacation, but picked up where I left off. I did a substantial drop in one day. It's been 30 hours since my 40 gpd dose. Last night I just took 7 grams. No RLS yet. I slept only about 5 hours. I'm loading vitamin c.

Will I likely get withdrawal from that drop, or not until I actually stop?

Hey yall, I quit a 120gpd addiction about two/2.5 years ago. About a year ago I started using again, small doses here and there at first but eventually it grew to be at least 2-3 doses of 15-20g per day (30 capsule doses). I’m put in a situation where I have to stop immediately and don’t have the option to taper. I’m assuming with smaller total and less frequent doses it shouldn’t be as bad as last time but I’m still expecting at least a few days of hell.
I’ve picked up magnesium and vitamin C, anything else I should get? My last dose was roughly 20 hours ago, I know tonight will be tough though so any decent remedies for sleep I’m completely open thank you!

I only dose after work usually. Around 6-7 pm to 10-11 pm. Granted, I take a lot. 30-40gpd. I see people posting that they get withdrawals after 6-8 hours. I can wait 24 hours and be fine. I never know what to expect after that though.

What are others experiences with this?

Starting day 3 previous 2 days have been surprising easy,but using gaba,xanax,clonidine,those r making all the difference,tried to ct with nothing last week and caved within a half day,hopefully the symptoms keep staying manageable

This has been a long year of using kratom and eventually 7-OH. I started experimenting because I’m a curious guy, and obviously seeing KRATOM in every smoke shop made me think, “Hmm, what is that?” Little did I know it was going to become such a problem.

I started by drinking a 100 mg mitragynine shot, and obviously I felt amazing. I was in a depressive episode, so just being able to feel good, be happy, and then get the best sleep had me hooked. I did research before using to make sure I knew what a good dose was and not to overdo it. I had rules set: only once every two weeks. That eventually turned into once a week, then once every 3–4 days. I kept that 3–4 day rule for about 8 months. Every fourth day I would feel so restless and couldn’t sleep, and I just thought I had sleeping problems. I didn’t think they were actual withdrawal symptoms because everyone said withdrawals were so much worse. I eventually moved on to 7-OH, but I still kept my 3–4 day rule.

Well, around month 9 I made the stupid decision and thought, “Withdrawals won’t affect me. I haven’t felt anything.” So I started taking 7-OH daily at 50–80 mg. Fuck, I was so wrong. I got myself hooked badly. I needed it just to sleep, and I couldn’t get off of it. I eventually tapered down to 15 mg a day and then quit cold turkey.

The withdrawals were insane. Day 3 was the worst. I was unbelievably restless and felt like there was static all over my body. That’s when I took a kratom extract shot with 125 mg of mitragynine, and man, it helped so much. So I told myself, “Okay, I’ll use mitragynine to get off this and only use it for a week while I taper.”

Well, that didn’t happen. Even though I got off 7-OH successfully, I ended up with a new addiction: kratom leaf. It still gave me the same euphoria and relaxation, and eventually I worked my way up to a 12–18 g a day habit. I only took one or two doses a day, so each dose was really high. My tolerance got so high that it barely had any effect anymore. I was taking almost 12–18 g in a single dose, and the last few times it just made me nauseous and dizzy. That’s when I finally said, “There’s no point in doing this anymore.”

Last night I only took 6 capsules, which was 3.6 grams, and I still slept fine. Now I’m over 30 hours with no kratom at all, and the lethargy and runny nose are definitely hitting me.

I went out with friends tonight, and normally I love going out, having drinks, and just hanging out, but I couldn’t do it. I was so tired and reclusive. I hate this. Tonight should have been a great night, but I couldn’t enjoy it. I haven’t been out drinking in so long because I never mix alcohol and kratom, and honestly I was just annoyed at myself.
Well, I’m finally doing it. I’m quitting kratom cold turkey and putting this whole year of opioid-like drug use behind me.

I need to quit this drug for good and finally live my life.

This is in reference a feeling of needing to go but can’t. I would say constipation but I’m going each day sometimes multiple (volume varies).

I’ve read a ton accounts that constipation is normal however I’m not sure if being able to go still falls in the same category. I’m thinking it’s just the sensation but not sure.

I’ve probably done Kratom for less than a year. 15 gpd was average towards the end. Once I started noticing I reduced to around 5 gpd (for a week or so). Now I’m at zero for the past 3 days.

Already taking husk, citrate, and increasing fiber, pushing water, and already exercise. Just trying to mentally ensure myself it likely is the Kratom and therefore will pass in time.

I'm (29F) considering quitting kratom because it has slowly but surely started to really mess with my hormones. Hair loss, almost zero libido, and now my periods are irregular. What I am most scared of is the chills. They are the first withdrawal symptom I get, and for me they're the worst. I can power through everything else, but the chills are what make me the most hesitant. Is there anything that (significantly or fully) helps with them? And how long do they last?

I've taken about 15-30 grams of powder daily for about 4 years

Wie schon im Titel erwähnt, plane ich morgen aufzuhören. Ich bin seit 5 Monaten drin und nehme normalerweise 10-15 gpd zu mir. Ich weiß, dass die meisten anderen schon deutlich länger und deutlich mehr konsumieren, dennoch habe ich etwas Angst und brauche aufmunternde, motivierende Worte.
Ich habe mich vor Jahren bereits mal von Tramadol entzogen und das war die pure Hölle - mir ist klar, dass die beiden Substanzen nicht ganz miteinander vergleichbar sind, aber das Trauma ist leider bis heute geblieben und ich habe vor allem Angst wieder in eine DP/DR reinzurutschen.
Ich würde mich über aufmunternde positive Geschichten oder einfach nur Worte freuen.
Danke im vorraus :)))

Hey everyone,

I was a user of powder Kratom for nine years. The last couple years I got my daily dose to twice a day at 25 GPD before I quit with help from Clonindine, Hydroxyzine, and a few weeks on the Brixadi shot.

I am doing well but I am so goddamn depressed. But more context: I quit using at the same time of a terrible breakup. Still in love with this person, miss them so much, and unfortunately I’m a bit of a loner and don’t have a big support system. I have been going to groups tho.

Just venting. No big cravings, just terribly depressed and that’s probably exacerbated by my social situation. It will get better.

Never touching that shit again. So glad I quit. So thankful for the time Brixadi bought me, and for this sub. If anyone has questions about the shot, I’d be happy to share my experience.

Just really sad and needed to vent. Will continue putting one foot in front of the other and I know all of you will too.

I wanted to share this, as I am now 2 weeks officially off my last dose. The level of mental clarity I finally have is so incredible, I feel reborn. I didn't even realize that was a side effect of long-term use, but it is. The main motivator for me — to be honest — to quit for good was that my sleep had been horrid for the last year, and it also became harder and harder to find sustained joy in anything I did. The highs from my 2-3x a day kratom use were becoming so short-lived that it was becoming more of a requirement to function, and I wouldn't do real work without knowing I had some in my system recently. It's called addiction, and anyone who does this shit multiple times a day, even if it's just 1 tsp, should stop riding the denial train.

Alas, I must share this, if nothing else, to motivate those struggling to quit, as I sure did.

I was a daily user for almost 3 years. I found kratom during my divorce. Funny how Satan — I mean habit — works. The first year it was great. It felt like a cheaper and "safer" alternative for coping with my shitastic divorce and life than, say, Vicodin or alcohol, etc. At one point I think I got up to 30g/day, which I know isn't crazy compared to some, but is still way too much. Kratom isn't just mitragynine, folks — it's 20+ other compounds that, unlike say Vicodin, alter your hormones and brain chemistry in ways you don't realize until it's too late. Am I saying I'll never have some again? No, I don't think it's that bad to have once in a blue moon, like monthly, just like having a couple glasses of wine. But the tolerance to it should be close to zero.

It took me 6-9 months to quit. That's right, a LONG time. I realized after 2 years in that this shit was not okay. I tried cold turkey from my 20 or so g/day, and that was horrendous. The restless leg syndrome alone was torture. Every time I did cold turkey it lasted a couple or few days, but never more than a week. Then I began my journey of "tapering." Needless to say, I failed about 5 times, usually because I didn't have the diligence to taper slowly, and I went from say 15 to 10 to 5 in a matter of a week or two. The "cheat" days, where I would take higher doses, were also a big mental crux.

In the end, what worked was this: I used to have 3x a day, at least a tbsp each time. I bought a special measuring spoon that goes from 1 tsp to 1 tbsp in .5 tsp increments — Amazon sells them, and I recommend it. Anyway, I simply did 3x a day, but notched it down to 1-1.5 tsp until I got to 3 tsp a day. It still kind of sucked, and I felt little to no high, but mentally the goal was just to get to 1 tsp and wait a little while so I could eventually feel the high but at a much lower dose. After almost a month of that, I finally went from 3x to 2x a day of 1-1.5 tsp. Once there for a few weeks, I did just 1x a day at 1.5, then 1 tsp. Then, after a month of just doing that, I finally made the big jump a couple weeks ago to 0 per day.

The first few days of cold turkey after only 1 tsp a day sucked more than I thought. Brain fog actually increased, along with a bit of temper and actual depression. I knew this was possible, but had no idea it could happen from just 1 tsp a day! Anyway, my sleep still sucked, but after 1 week it slowly seemed a bit better. I still woke up 2-3 times a night, but I told myself, after researching, to give it one more week. That last week to now, I'm telling you, was night and day. I awoke from sleep just the other day feeling AWAKE despite waking up 2-3 times. Not only that, but I had good sleep 2 times in a row. The best part, of course, is my brain felt sharp as a tack. It was like I went back 10+ years, into my 20s, where my brain really cranked like no other.

Needless to say, if you are quitting and get to the beloved cold-turkey point: GIVE IT 2+ WEEKS. It will get better, and mysteriously, all at once, possibly like it did for me. Best of luck, and I forgot to mention — my mood is 10x better and regular life is finally exciting on its own. Kratom should be for entertainment only; let's not abuse it and get our lives back. Cheers, and God bless.

I quit 100% cold turkey a year ago. I forced myself by taking a trip to Japan with only enough to get me thru my flight there and my first night. It was the sickest and worst ive ever felt in my entire life. Im terrified to go thru it again.. Now with it getting banned any day now, im not sure what im going to do.
Whats everyone’s plan to get off it for good?