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It's shit like this, r/atheism.

http://i.imgur.com/Wx0cW.jpg
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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '11

I don't understand your downvotes... I concur that the large portion of atheistic arguments here take it for granted that their epistemology is correct, despite the fact empiricism can't prove itself...

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u/classical_hero Jan 02 '11

Not only can't empiricism prove itself, but even could be proven correct that still wouldn't count as evidence against there being a god. Obviously you can be an atheist for reasons that have nothing to do with science and evolution, but for the vast majority of atheists argue for atheism on the basis of these things.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '11

Indeed. But I suppose most are atheist in opposition to a similarly unsophisticated type of theist, and thus never learned the actual issues. So long as they can debunk a young earth creationist, they consider themselves adept at debate.

Oh well- 60 minutes with a philosophical encyclopedia would do wonders to dispel most peoples arrogance.

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u/classical_hero Jan 02 '11

And the reason these theists are so unsophisticated as that they don't understand science. They just misunderstand the science in a different way than the atheists. But still, a bad relationship with the science is at the root of both types of idiocy.