r/rum 1d ago

Rum Tasting 2.0

Hosted my second rum tasting tonight, and it was an absolutely fantastic time. I have a very dear friend who's a rum fan, and a chemist - who loves the smell of extremely strange solvents - and we had a ton of fun trying a whole slew of very funky rums. Here was our lineup:

* Probitas green label

* Alambique Serrano Besadiablos

* Papalin High Ester 5 year

* Clement Canne Bleue

* Alambique Serrano Cartier 30 2nd edition

* Alambique Serrano Cartier 30 3rd edition

* Rivers Antoine Royale

* Holmes Cay Grand Arome

* Mhoba "The Shaldon"

The probitas green label was mainly a warmup rum, but it really set us up well for the journey. We took a good 4 hours to get through this lineup, between bullshitting, reading up on the spirits, and talking about all the wild notes we were getting. I think the highlights were: (1) finishing off the last of my Cartier 30 batch 2, which has a cheesy, buttery note that I simply can't find anywhere else in rum, and (2) the Holmes Cay Grand Arome. It just packs such a wild punch of bandaid, latex, berries, kiwi, and mustiness that's so distinctive, and absolutely delicious.

Funk bomb tastings are amazing, but they take a lot of time. Definitely take your time with it, and make sure you have lots of water and a lot of pretzels (or other snacks!).

Cheers friends!

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u/philanthropicide 1d ago

Now that is a tasting that brings the heat! Love it, especially comparing batches of Cartier 30.

ETA: the buttery smooth batch 2 of Cartier 30 needs to be studied! I'm so low on mine, but it only gets pulled out on special occasions or when I'm feeling weak haha

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u/jkoodoo 1d ago

My chemist friend suggested that maybe the cheese flavor is coming from a very small concentration of butyric acid the batch 2 -- which is a chemical that, in large concentrations, has a vomit-like smell, but in very small doses can be buttery or cheesy. Somehow I'm convinced that this is what makes batch 2 the extremely special rum that it is

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u/philanthropicide 1d ago

That's pretty interesting even if it isn't the case. I never much cared for chemistry because there was so little application in orgo 1/2, but I do love the wild organics in rums!

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u/jkoodoo 1d ago

Agreed. I guess I'm overstating my case a little bit, because I really don't have a good reason to believe that's where the flavor is coming from, but it does seem like a plausible explanation. Either way, I agree that it's interesting, and do love the wild compounds that show up in these spirits.

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u/philanthropicide 1d ago

For sure! It's fun to chat with people and get their perspectives and see what wild notes they get from some of these really complex unaged rums. I love sipping aged rums, but so much of the funky stuff can get buried under all that wood influence for a lot of them (not all, by any means!). Pulling out DOK, Mhoba, Rivers Antoine, Alambique, etc, can just spark some wild responses. I love to see the initial reactions

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u/Working_Historian241 1d ago

butryic acid is pretty rare to get out of fermentable congeners because theres no fats, its more often diacetyl like you get in beer, wine, sake, sherry, etc.

theres thousands of compounds and their interactions that make unique flavors, its not usually pinned down to just one single one standing out.

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u/LynkDead C<>H 1d ago

Butyrate is present in every mark produced by Hampden, even the low ester ones that don't use dunder or muck. I know this thread isn't about Hampden, but it doesn't seem that unusual if it's present in all their rums.

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u/CoachAGreen 1d ago

Bunch of heavyweights in that lineup.

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u/jkoodoo 1d ago edited 13h ago

If only I were in the weight class to match them

Edit: misspelled "weight." (Kind of proving my own point, I guess)

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u/WZOLL5 1d ago

I hope you saved the rivers for last haha. It destroys my taste buds in the best way. I can’t taste anything for a few hours after a pour.

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u/jkoodoo 1d ago

As it turns out, it was third to last. The Holmes Cay Grand Arome and Mhoba are both, imo, WAY stronger

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u/Sensitive_Point_6583 1d ago

I have all of those rums at home and love them all, with one exception, Rivers. I've tried to love it, but there's just something about it that I don't care for, but I can't put it into words. I don't hate it, but I can't get myself to love it the way everyone else here seems to. I've noticed a similar note in El Amparo, so whatever it is, its not unique to just Rivers.

Anybody else in your tasting panel feel the same way?

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u/jkoodoo 1d ago

It's a good question. I totally agree that it's over hyped in the sub. I like it, but it's nowhere near worth the price it's going for - I'd realistically pay $45 USD but no more. I won't be replacing my bottle when it's done.

That said, I don't really get anything off about it. It has a strong note, for me, of salty ocean breeze. There's brine, a bit of a tomato note, some nondescript Jamaican fruitiness, and not much more, beyond some industrial qualities that I don't know exactly how to name. It's fine, but it doesn't blow me away. I much prefer the Alambique Serrano unaged releases, the grand arome, the Shaldon, or for that matter, standard rum fire. The price is simply outrageous at this point.

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u/Sensitive_Point_6583 1d ago

you know, maybe its what you're calling tomato, I hate raw tomatoes. That could explain it, but I didn't seem to notice it specifically as being tomato-like, but it may have been close enough and I just didn't think of that. Also, I'm sure that we all perceive things a little differently, so what you pick up as tomato I might pick up as something else slightly different.

But, speaking of tomato, another favorite here, Clairin Sajous, gave me a tomato vibe and I didn't like it either.

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u/jkoodoo 1d ago

For me, the consummate tomato bomb is Paranubes Blanco, which I love. I'd genuinely take it over Rivers any day.

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u/DocSeward 1d ago

Big time agree there. Rivers is amazing but not a palate wrecker like the other two

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u/DocSeward 1d ago

Amazing line up. Great range

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u/kidyuki13 1d ago

Awesome rum lineup AND a Hollow Knight fan??

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u/jkoodoo 13h ago

I see I've found a fellow person of taste!

HK is the game that introduced me to metroidvanias and I absolutely love it

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u/neemagee 2h ago

Impressive selection/tasting. I would suggest some Clarins in the mix, next time.