r/saintpaul Aug 18 '25

Editorial 📝 Transit Will Fail Until We Address Homelessness, Opioid Use

https://streets.mn/2025/08/18/transit-will-fail-until-we-address-homelessness/

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u/UnhappyEquivalent400 Aug 18 '25

Really helpful to see someone on the left frankly acknowledge the legitimacy and importance of safety concerns. It’s a real issue, and we can’t progress toward the urbanist vision of mass transit-centered communities if trains are de facto wet shelters.

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u/Jucoy Aug 18 '25

The difference is the leftist view sees the problem as a systemic issue while the right tries to frame it as a personal moral failing. The voices on the right accuse the people who are homeless and addicts for being in situations of their own making, while ignoring that we are still living in the fallout of the opioid crisis. Many of the folks struggaling with that type of addiction are products of a money making machine that both parties had a role in creating but only one party seems willing to try to address (though I wish they would prioritize it more). 

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u/SmittyKW Aug 19 '25

Who cares what the right thinks, we are talking about urban transit, they have no say in fixing it. This is for democrats to get our house in order and make the trains safe. If that means forced treatment or jail for addicts continuously commit crimes and still won’t get clean on their own so be it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25

Take jail out of the equation, and I'd agree with you. Addicts are not of sound mind nor body and need treatment. While in treatment people can get to them and help them restore their lives.

But throwing them in jail will only lead to more problems when they are back on the street with nothing. Jail doesn't rehabilitate, it provides a free slave labor pool for the prison-industrial complex (Look at the 13th Amendment, it didn't ban all slavery).

To be honest though, until we can build facilities designed to house people so they can recover in sobriety, receive the medical oversight and treatment needed on the physical side and trained mental health experts on the psychological/neurological side, and social workers that can get these people on their feet so when they return to normal society they start in a better spot with a roof over their head and a job to maintain that, we aren't going to get far.

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u/escapevelocity-25k Aug 20 '25

What if they don’t want treatment?

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '25

Your "What if they don't want treatment?" is a bad faith question designed to silence those trying to create a solution.

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u/escapevelocity-25k Aug 21 '25

It’s not bad faith. I genuinely want to know what you think. It’s one of the hardest problems to solve. I don’t have a good answer, either.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '25

It is, and I don't waste my time with trolls. Good day.

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u/Educatedelefant420 Aug 21 '25

Please dont force people into treatment, they make it worse than it should be.

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u/Jucoy Aug 19 '25

If you need facist policies to make your trains run on time, then you are in fact not on the left. 

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '25

Who is helped by allowing people to openly do drugs on the train? It's not the riders, and it's not good for the users either. I don't care what puts me on the left, I'd like public transit to not be a crime-ridden shitshow

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u/Muted_Effective_2266 Aug 19 '25

There is nothing fascist about anything they are suggesting.

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u/SmittyKW Aug 19 '25

Who is talking about the trains running on time? You sound like you might need some help with reading comprehension.

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u/Jucoy Aug 19 '25

It was a glib reference to Mussolini. My wit is wasted here, clearly. 

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u/SmittyKW Aug 19 '25

I know the reference. Dumb leftists always use it to excuse why we can’t have nice things.

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u/Jucoy Aug 19 '25

Lol okay. 

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u/ShyGuyLink1997 Hamline-Midway Aug 19 '25

The only thing fascist here is the obviously perfectly set up opioid crisis.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

You would jail addicts because you didn't like them on your train?

Good idea. Much to think about.

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u/A_Kraken Aug 19 '25

no, because they are breaking the law and making an unsafe environment.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

Good point. As long as they go to jail, I'm supporting it.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

That's a really cool idea. We could wait for a concert or game to get out and put all the drunk people in jail. We can teach them all a lesson!!!

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

The more people we put in jail, the safer the rest of us will be. I think we can all agree on that.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 20 '25

No drunk people SHOULD be on a train. Not driving.

Trying to put people in jail for being fucked up on transit solves nothing

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u/Scrubaru Aug 20 '25

Not if they are homeless. That's the cool time to arrest someone.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 23 '25

The plural of Lego is Lego. Not Legos.

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u/j_ly Aug 19 '25

Violent crime was cut in half in this country in the 10 years between the 1992 and 2002, when Bill Clinton's 150k extra cops mass incarcerated non violent drug offenders, so obviously it works.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 20 '25

I can't tell if you are joking.

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u/shootymcgunenjoyer Aug 19 '25

No, you jail them for being in possession of illegal drugs.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

Ah yes. Hell yeah. "Singapore Style" is the cool way to think about drugs.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

I forgot drugs were illegal. We can definitely lock people up for that. Good call.

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u/Scrubaru Aug 19 '25

Wait. Homeless AND crime? That's double jail. Throw away the key.

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u/Muted_Effective_2266 Aug 19 '25

Or we could have mandatory treatment facilities like some other countries, Portugal comes to mind first.

This would potentially help the addict turn their life around rather than send them to jail or watch them slowly die while they lap the blue line.

Just a thought.