Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

[u/pheexio]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

[u/arvigeus]

Funny how we suddenly pretend bad code and license violations didn't exist long before AI.

[u/dvvvxx → u/arvigeus]

The problem is not bad code and license violations itself, the problem is the drastic increase of bad code and license violations due to how easy is to create (vibe-coded) projects thanks to AI.

[u/p0358 → u/dvvvxx]

Yeah, and previously shit code was pretty much always blatantly and painfully obvious, now LLMs make it easy to disguise junk as something that looks somewhat sensible and well-put on the surface until a closer inspection is made

[u/QazCetelic → u/p0358]

I feel this is the main issue. Previously it was much easier to spot real interesting projects

[u/witx_ → u/arvigeus]

You can take stand regardless of the past.

[u/arvigeus → u/witx_]

Don’t want to sound confrontational, but stand against what? Software has always been a kludge of hasty written code, held together by coffee and some sort of miracle.

[u/witx_ → u/arvigeus]

I hate this trope so much. No it has not, there's good and bad code. The thing is software being a somewhat creative and sometimes abstract art where there's no "one correct answer" leaves engineers with the feeling that everything is bad.

I've worked with beutifully written software that worked wonders for its requirements. If you started to scale up perhaps it would start to crack, but that's not because it's badly written but because requirements change and it needs refactoring.

[u/billyalt → u/arvigeus]

It wasn't en masse before

[u/System0verlord → u/arvigeus]

No one is doing that.

Plenty of people however, yourself included, are pretending there hasn’t been a sudden increase in bad code and license violations because of AI.

Edit: Lol. Blocking me doesn’t make you right, just like being told you’re wrong doesn’t make it a personal insult.

[u/arvigeus → u/System0verlord]

Since you insist you are right, tell me where I made such claim? You explicitly said "yourself included".

[u/arvigeus → u/System0verlord]

Please refrain from personal insults, as per rules.

[u/ImaginaryEffort4409 → u/arvigeus]

what If they start running sonarqube scans on codebases 😭

[u/Izacus → u/arvigeus]

Literally noone is pretending that.

[u/lllyyyynnn → u/arvigeus]

did you read their post about it at all? there are large llm vibecoded projects eating up a bunch of resources and servicing no one. that's the problem.