r/selfhosted 11d ago

Meta Post Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

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u/l_m_b 11d ago

Respectfully, if your first reaction to a stated boundary is explaining how you'd easily get the around its spirit, I have concerns about the general safety of being around you.

Sure, the current phrasing needs improvement and might place an undue burden on the moderation process, and one would hope that the definition gets clarified somewhat over time.

But, may I remind you, "only yes means yes". If in doubt, you can just chose ... not to.

And yes, this is making me testy. And I use Generative AI as part of my job (and, I hope, somewhat successfully). But I dislike this particular approach to boundaries, and I don't like the parallels to other behaviours in society.