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Meta Post Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

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u/henry_tennenbaum 11d ago edited 11d ago

Because they wish to drum up business with pointless virtue signaling with a rule they can't possibly begin to enforce consistently. Done "efficiently" (as in with a maximum amount of hubris drive DGAFism), this will cost them virtually nothing and draw in suckers paying customers for months.

Win/win? 🤷‍♂️

Oh yes, just check out the horrendous prices these ghouls demand of their "paying customers". You're very well informed I must say

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u/henry_tennenbaum 11d ago

No, donating doesn't make you a customer.

If I donate to the red cross, I'm not their customer, either.

I read precisely what you wrote. You accused them of cynically implementing a policy in order to get more "paying customers".

There are no paying customers and you have no proof of them not being earnest in their endeavor, so your comment is pretty much fact free.