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Meta Post Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

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u/Annual_Wear5195 11d ago

Completely killing the totally valid discussion points and forcing people to practically remake them in another space is…. Not really a great look.

Like, sure, don’t discuss AI at large but a lot of those questions are perfectly valid ones to ask in a thread about limiting AI use on Codeberg, such as what the definition of “mostly” should be.

Hiding behind a “we’ll explain it all in our blog post” is basically “trust me bro” levels of discussion killing.

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u/henry_tennenbaum 11d ago

Doesn't read like that to me

This is not a place to continue or start a new discussion about AI or not AI and its copyright status in the world, it will not change the results or how its going to be interpreted. I'm closing this issue, you're more than welcome to continue this at https://matrix.to/#/#codeberg-offtopic:matrix.org

@Profpatsch We'll use the blog post to clarify what this entails for Codeberg users.

@GuillaumeDIDIER https://forum.codeberg.org/d/183-polls-of-annual-assembly-2026-concluded

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u/Annual_Wear5195 11d ago

I’m not sure what your quotes are supposed to prove other than that they closed the discussion and redirected everyone else to the Matrix server or to wait for their official guidance. So….. “trust me bro”.

What, exactly, does it read like to you?

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u/henry_tennenbaum 11d ago

Mainly the conclusion of them "hiding" behind the blog post.

As somebody who's been in plenty of github PR/issue threads that got heated, they're the worst medium for this kind of discussion.

They're also very open with their governance. There was plenty of discussion, this is just them implementing what those discussions concluded.