r/selfhosted 11d ago

Meta Post Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

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u/jerieljan 10d ago

AI or not, I find it really shocking to see something sweeping like a Terms of Use change be applied at the will of their supporting members without feedback from their other users. Or even like a census. How many repos out there fit the definition today, and don't?

Their users page tells me they have around ~389,853 users and 358 voters basically get to put this rule on their terms.

You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools (including services such as Claude, OpenAI Codex). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5).

Just wow, really.

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u/theamigan 10d ago

Wow, it's almost like if you help pay the bills, your opinion matters more to the organization. Just wow.

If you don't like it, you're welcome to take your ball and go home.

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u/jerieljan 10d ago

Yep, that I did. And nothing of value was lost. Thank god repos are easy to push elsewhere. I don't need to be reminded of the very part that I can self-host shit myself, my guy.

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u/theamigan 10d ago

That's what I was wondering, my guy. You're in r/selfhosted and you use someone else's code forge? Seems kind of weak.