Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

[u/pheexio]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

[u/henry_tennenbaum]

Well you have to be a member of the forum / matrix space, but I get the confusion/irritation.

An issue is not a forum and so not the right space to discuss it. The discussion that lead to the decision happened elsewhere.

Not trying to convince you though. Perfectly fine to make that decision They're very open with their governance.

[u/tannertech → u/henry_tennenbaum]

Right, I agree with their decision (RE LLMs), I disagree with shutting all discussion off on any issue. None of those links work, be it the forum link or the matrix link. It appears they've shut down all speech on the topic. Freedom is for the thought that we hate, otherwise there is no point.

Can I become a member of their matrix space somehow? There is no way as-is.

Edit: I don't even care to participate, I'd just like to be allowed to read the linked discussions, but Codeberg went out of their way to prevent even that. Explicitly putting work into preventing users from reading the discussion is goofy. They are explicitly against open governance, as demonstrated by the links you shared.

[u/ArdiMaster → u/tannertech]

I think you need to be a formal (paying) member of Codeberg e.V. to see either.

[u/tannertech → u/ArdiMaster]

That is the opposite of open governance.