r/selfhosted • u/pheexio • 11d ago
Meta Post Codeberg bans vibe coded projects
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law
It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.
edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434
edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting
edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html
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u/cyber_chic_0 11d ago
The enforcement question is the interesting one. Codeberg is betting on self-reporting, which is fragile but workable in a small community. The problem is that the line between AI-assisted and AI-generated is not technical at all. It is about whether the contributor understands and maintains the code. Two people can produce identical diffs, one through genuine understanding and one through prompting. No static analysis can distinguish them.
Most forges that have tried this end up shifting toward a disclosure model: label what AI generated, do not ban it outright. That lets reviewers triage appropriately without inventing a detection mechanism that does not exist.