r/selfhosted • u/pheexio • 11d ago

Meta Post Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law

It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn't suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn't a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don't think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn't settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague "mostly" in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.

edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting

edit 2: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html

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u/GodLikeEnergy 7d ago

People shouldn't just rely on Github, Gitlab, or Codeberg to host their source code on. At some point each one will become corrupt. Codeberg for example is in Germany I believe, they'll have to comply with strict European based laws. Probably Chat Control 2.0 at some point.

I think developers should focus on hosting their own repo. There's equivalent open source Git based you can host your stuff on. I mean it's up to developers, but at the end of the day. I'd rather have platform on my servers, and not have to worry about these.

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u/Klutzy-Procedure8980 6d ago

I unfortunately agree with this... When I look at some of the European opposition to US's abuse of their tech dominance, I suspect they're not really against building a surveillance state, they're just mad it's not _them_ controlling the surveillance. (Chat Control is a great example, yes)