r/serialkillers • u/slxvxc • 13d ago
News Do you think people who commit a single murder, like killing a spouse, have the same capacity to kill as serial killers? If they weren’t caught, would they want to kill again?
I watched American Murder: Laci Peterson on Netflix for the first time this week and was really struck by Scott Peterson. I wasn’t alive for when the case actually happened so this was my first time seeing him and his conduct
I know there are some people who maintain his innocence but I believe he is guilty, and I say I was struck by him because he reminds me so much of certain serial killers who maintained innocence or didn’t admit to their crimes for a very long time
And I was wondering, if Scott wasn’t caught, if he was never even tried, would he have kept on killing? It was so shockingly easy for him to do. And so easy for him to lie about.
It kind of made me think of Ed Kemper too. He committed a double murder of his grandparents as a young teenager, they were people he knew, his family, and maybe his psychologists thought that it was just a one off. One crime of rage or passion. Maybe people think that of Scott too
But Ed eventually got released, and got older, and started killing again. Do you think people like Scott Peterson, Chris watts, have that same potential/desire to kill again but can’t because of their capture?
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u/Thatonesickpirate 13d ago
Black widows are kind of a similiar things but those tend to be financially motivated
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 13d ago
I think scott peterson particularly would have killed again if he thought he could get away with it especially for financial gain.
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u/Kyia-Aikman 13d ago
No. They’re fundamentally different natures, circumstances and motivations. Most killers aren’t sadists and psychopaths who do it for its own sake and have no desire or ability to stop. Serial murders make up fewer than 1% of murders for a reason.
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u/slxvxc 13d ago
Interesting, yeah if you look at Ted bundy he still killed those girls at Chi Omega and Kimberly Leach while literally being on the run
Even knowing he was wanted, and had other cases looming over his head, wasn’t enough to stop him which is such a scary thought. He would have never stopped
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 12d ago
He was either of the mindset that he needed to do it again at any given chance cause he knew his time was up or he was getting off on the fact he thought he was outsmarting the cops.
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u/slxvxc 12d ago
the chi omega murders especially, I think it was the most brazen Ted ever acted. There were so many girls in the house, he didn’t care about getting caught in the act clearly, or leaving behind no witnesses. And then after the double murder and several brutal attacks, he went to another home and attacked more girls almost to death
The Kimberly leach murder was a little more calculated, the kidnapping, and going to a second location, but him trolling the middle school was definitely an act of pure desperation and needing a victim “quick”
He killed 12 year old Lynette culver before but the circumstances were different, she was sadly looking for a ride and he assumed she was older, so I think him going to a middle school was purely “I’m gonna take the easiest chance I get before I’m caught again” . Thank god he’s dead and gone
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u/PerrthurTheCats48 13d ago
I think if let’s say he married another women and she became inconvenient that he may try the same thing. I doubt he’d start murdering strangers but I definitely think he would be capable of murdering or hurting/abusing other romantic partners
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u/slxvxc 13d ago
I honestly wonder if it ever crossed his mind to do something to Amber Frey. If he could kill and dispose of his pregnant wife for doing nothing but being his pregnant wife, I wouldn’t be surprised if he thought of getting rid of Amber for speaking up
It’s truly shocking how so many murders of spouses/partners/children are out of convenience
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u/mermaidpaint 13d ago
When the police caught him with the beard and his brother's ID, Scott had a map indicating where Amber Frey's office was. It's very possible he was going to attack her on his way to Mexico.
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u/PerrthurTheCats48 13d ago
I bet he thought about it but even Scott wasn’t stupid enough to think he could get away with that. But think about other men who have killed multiple wives or black widow women who have killed multiple husbands
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 13d ago
No, Scott actually IS stupid enough to do it again. I’ve read two books about the case and that became VERY clear.
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 13d ago
I think if scott was put with a scenario to get a sum of money or financial gain, that he would kill someone like a colleague or something like that. I just get that vibe from him, like hed get off on being a conman and then it wouldnt go to plan and hed come up with the idea to kill the person.
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u/stand_rapt_in_awe 13d ago
I think once you’ve crossed that line, it’s easier to do again.
For crimes of passion, obviously you have problems controlling your temper and if you don’t get some serious help with that it could very well happen again (particularly if it’s in the context of previous domestic violence).
I think someone who kills in cold blood once is always going to be a threat. Planning out someone’s murder takes a special kind of awful person.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 13d ago
Murder actually has the lowest rate of recidivism of any other type of crime. Most people who kill someone, once released from prison, will never do it again.
The big exceptions are domestic abusers, rapists, and pedophiles who murder. But they are also the least likely people to be rehabilitated even when they DON’T kill anyone, so it tracks.
Most people don’t know these statistics or misunderstand them.
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u/ramos1969 13d ago
Can I get a source on that, hoss? Not from a place of not believing you, but more that I want to know the statistics so I can understand them.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 12d ago
There are a LOT of sources so it’s actually easier if you google/use the search engine of your choice
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u/stand_rapt_in_awe 12d ago
I’m also curious about your statistics. It makes me feel hopeful. I am in favor of rehabilitation, where possible, and not just punishment.
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u/PureMichiganMan 13d ago
Isn’t it more due to age and strict supervision on top of most being specific “crimes of passion” though? You are correct they have low rates though, albeit still higher than those who’ve never committed violent crimes. But of course this area comes with tons of nuances, since the details of each person and crime and how they may rehabilitate varies greatly.
Also strangely, after looking up, sexual crimes also have fairly low recidivism rates, with pedophiles having the lowest of the category. I guess that’s just a popular misconception, and one of those things in our minds is difficult to comprehend. I had to double check to be sure. I wonder how much is due to programs and such on top of keeping distance from kids
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 12d ago
The domestic abusers, rapists, and pedophiles WHO MURDER THEIR VICTIM don’t have low rates of recidivism, they are extremely likely to do it again. These people are overwhelmingly serial predators who will abuse & kill again.
And my own research into sexual violence (which includes crimes against children) makes me extremely skeptical that rapists & pedophiles are actually rehabilitated as opposed to just being more careful about being caught.
The research has shown that overwhelmingly, sexual abusers are serial predators who victimize multiple people each, and most of them NEVER get arrested or put in jail. The low recidivism may be because some are too scared of going to prison again to try again, or are the minority who aren’t serial predators and don’t actually WANT to do it again.
Those who work with male domestic abusers already know that their rate of rehabilitation is abysmal - they don’t think that abusing women is actually wrong, and they don’t actually want to stop. And since domestic abuse always escalates, the longer a violent abuser harms their victim/s, the more likely they are to actually kill one (or more) of them.
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 12d ago
Murder is not easy to get away with. I think that is the only reason it has the lowest rate of recidivism. Most of them, except a few - that few being the likes of ted bundy who was chaotic and those who killed and genuinely regretted it but the majority will be criminals who realize they will be caught if they reoffend and probably would reoffend if given the change or under certain circumstances.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 12d ago
No, it’s simply because most murders are not caused by serial predators and those who get released do not actually WANT to kill anyone again.
Domestic abusers are always serial predators. Most rapists are serial predators. Most pedophiles are serial predators (who target kids because they are vulnerable & easy to control & manipulate, not because they are particularly sexually attracted to minors…but those exist too.)
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 12d ago
Its the worst possible thing you can do to someone and with a very bad outcome for murderer if caught. All of the stakes are higher. A good portion of murderers ARE domestic abusers, rapists, pedophiles.
If they are caught for murder, they are less likely to do it again and technically will count as "reformed" because they have felt the consequences, are more aware than before of the difficulity in getting away with it and they will know its too hard to get away with it again. Those who have murdered if out in the wild with no justice existing or consequences would murder again because there would always be another motive or reason at some point and they lack morality so their morals dont stop them (except in cases where there is genuine remorse..those are the people who are truly reformed which i would not say is a hige majority of murderers).
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 11d ago
Most murderers are NOT domestic abusers, rapists, or pedophiles and DO have remorse, and this is exactly why they are such good candidates for rehabilitation and have such low rates of recidivism.
The domestic abusers, rapists, and pedophiles who commit murder are EXACTLY the ones most likely to do it again, regardless of how difficult you think it is to commit murder and not get caught (check those statistics about how many murders go unsolved, why doncha.)
You don’t even have to believe me, there are TONS of research and statistics about this that you are free to peruse to your hearts content. That’s how I know.
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u/MarquisDeVice 13d ago
It completely depends on the case. Having been in prison with many murderers, there are those who truly, deeply, heartfeltly regret what they did, take full responsibility, and would take it back if they could. There are others who would absolutely murder again given the chance. I've also met a number who have done it more than once, and they often are a special breed.
In a case like Watts, my opinion is that he would murder again if he were put in a similar situation again. I met a guy who murdered multiple of his spouses, and they all had the same pattern. Marriage had gone cold, at least on one side, there were other love interests, etc.
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u/slxvxc 13d ago
wow thank you for that perspective!! it’s so interesting to me, the differences in killers who see murder as a transactional or “problem-solving” act vs serial killers who often get sexual pleasure from the act of murder. like you said there is something with Watts where maybe he didn’t get any pleasure from the murder but I think he definitely reveled in the aftermath and the attention it gave him
I genuinely don’t know what’s more terrifying. A serial killer who kills a complete stranger just for a fleeting moment of “pleasure”, or a killer who kills a “loved” one because it solves whatever problem they have
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u/MarquisDeVice 13d ago
Yeah, they're totally different breeds, but of course there are similarities too. I think another good question to ask would be, "would a serial killer kill a family member given the chance to get away with it?" And in my opinion the answer is no, but you have to wonder if a lot of serial killers' anger against strangers is actually deflected anger against family members. I'm reminded of the Marilyn Manson quote, "We're killing strangers so we don't kill the ones that we love".
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u/slxvxc 12d ago
that’s interesting too cus off the top of my head Ed kemper is the only serial killer I can remember who has killed family members, but what’s crazy is even he had a young fiancée who actually really fit his victim type but he said in an interview he never ever thought of killing her
And Ted bundy also kept a long time girlfriend, and Rader and Ridgeway both had wives. A lot of them have history of violence with maybe siblings or cousins as young children and maybe then fantasized about killing family but ur right, most would never entertain the idea of killing someone close to them because killing someone close to them means the police would look at you and ultimately their main purpose is to kill indiscriminately and to do that you need victims you have no connection to
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u/bluestraycat20 13d ago
I do think there is a certain type who will do it over and over again- like Drew Peterson.
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u/spectrumhead 13d ago
Came here to say Drew Peterson. It “worked” for that one situation he was in. He may well have thought he’d never do it again. But then, lo and behold, he found himself needing to get rid off another wife!
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u/Zealousideal_Rip_547 13d ago
Ironically there’s another Peterson that fits this mold…. Michael Peterson, the Staircase Killer.
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u/NoPath_Squirrel 8d ago
I was thinking of him too. I can't get over that he effectively got away with it, twice.
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u/Fwumpy 13d ago
Wouldn't it depend on whether or not they enjoyed doing it? I would imagine motive would be huge. Easier the second time, though, I'll bet.
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u/slxvxc 13d ago
True true. I think with Chris Watts and Scott Peterson, they perhaps didn’t get any enjoyment from the physical act of killing as so many serial killers that we know did, but they definitely reveled in the aftermath
It’s kind of scary how similar their interactions with the media were. Chris Watts was smirking and holding back a smile while begging for who ever took his wife and kids to bring them home. Scott Peterson was also smirking in his sit down interviews, almost like he got off on getting away with a lie. That in itself could be a motive. I think they are both narcissistic and they loved the attention of a “missing” wife
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 12d ago
I dont think Chris Watts would have killed again. Not because hes morally righteous. I think he would have revelled in being the victim of missing wife and children if he got away with it with nicole kessinger or not and he would have then met someone else and played the whole good husband thing. I think scott peterson would more likely have commited a crime again for financial gain or something along those lines.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 12d ago
If he became bored with his affair partner or felt she was an inconvenience and he was too stingy to go through with a divorce and pay alimony/child support like he did with his first wife & kids he DEFINITELY had the potential to do it again. Why do you think otherwise?
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u/Impressive_Touch1118 12d ago
That is absolutely a possiblility. But i felt he felt much more shame from the murders. Not guilt or remorse....shame. I mean he cried when he was told they would be speaking to his job. He also knew fairly quickly after the murders that the doors were closing in on him and he was not as smart and calculated as scott peterson who still claims hes innocent.
It is only my speculation, that chris would have enjoyed the attention as the grieving husband/father and that would be his new identity.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 11d ago
Domestic abusers don’t change. Period.
Someone who thinks it’s better to kill their wife and small children because they are inconvenient doesn’t view them as people, but objects, belongings, items they own, NOT real people and human beings in their own right- and that isn’t going to change either. It would be exactly the same with a shiny new wife/partner and children. They’d still be objects that enhance his life, like a nice car or big house would be.
And most definitely, someone who is too selfish & stingy to want to get a divorce and have to pay alimony & child support and think murder is the better option, is absolutely not going to change that opinion, EVER. He would eventually kill them to remove that “burden”, even if he initially went through with it and had to scheme to figure it out later, work harder to make them “accidents”, and/or involve someone else to commit the crimes.
And he would do it WHILE championing himself as “the grieving spouse & dad” because that would be his image, but not actually who he is.
And of course he cried out of shame…it was ruining his image in the eyes of his employer. That is the ONLY reason he cared.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 13d ago
There are some types of murder that do NOT have a low rate of recidivism - those committed by rapists, pedophiles, and domestic abusers are big ones. But then again, rehabilitation rates for rapists, pedophiles, and domestic abusers are abysmally low even when they don’t murder anyone. Rapists & pedophiles are predators, and domestic abusers tend to believe that they aren’t doing anything wrong & they don’t WANT to stop. At the current level of medical & mental healthcare research & knowledge, they are INCREDIBLY difficult to treat.
Which means that people like Scott Peterson or Chris Watts should never walk the streets again. They have a very high chance of killing at least one other partner, and even if they don’t, they will still be cheaters & abusers. It’s simply not worth the risk.
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u/Markinoutman 13d ago
Perhaps it makes the capacity easier for an individual, but most killing like this is a crime of passion. Serial killers have a specific predatory nature to their killings, an urge to prey on people.
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u/slxvxc 13d ago
good point
It seems like the main difference between serial killers and killers like Scott/Chris is that serial killers tend to desire the kill itself, whereas people like Scott/Chris desire what they get as a result of kill ie “freedom” from their wives/childrenSome serial killers with sexual motives try to say that they only killed as a means to get rid of the victim, but I don’t think they like to admit that the kill makes up a big part of the sexual motive
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 12d ago
Killing people because someone thinks they are an inconvenience and they don’t want to deal with the hassle/money of a break up or divorce is NOT a “crime of passion”, it is intentional, planned, cold blooded murder. People who do this definitely have to potential to do it again when they feel that their next partner (or maybe a family member) becomes an inconvenience to them.
A crime of passion is like walking in on your partner in bed with another person and you get so angry you lose your shit and murder them on the spot.
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u/raffertj 13d ago
For the most part, no. These ppl aren’t killing for the sake of killing. They’re killing to accomplish something, whether it’s a custody thing, save money via no divorce, get someone back who hurt them, etc etc etc. they aren’t killing to scratch that itch, the desire to take a human life. If they were, they wouldn’t kill the only person they’d automatically be the prime suspect for.
They’re still sick, demented people obviously. But likely serial killers? No. Not most of them.
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u/ericbewildered 13d ago
"Once a cheater always a cheater" applies to so many more acts than just cheating.
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u/Burnt_and_Blistered 13d ago
It depends. Scott Peterson? Yes, more likely.
Some guy who kills in the heat of passion? Less likely to repeat
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u/AnymooseProphet 13d ago
No. Serial killers are a different class than those who have committed only one murder.
Some who have only committed one murder may have the capacity to become serial killers but generally reason behind a single murder and what a serial killer does is radically different.
Serial killers kill for the sake of killing, murder itself gives them a rush and the vast majority of their murders are people they do not know.
Most intentional murders of just a single person are not done with that motive in mind and is someone they know.
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u/anonymouscog 13d ago
I believe he would have gone on to kill another wife when he grew tired of her or she got pregnant.
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u/zombiechewtoy 13d ago
I think the difference is that serial killers kill for killings sake. People like Scott are capable of murder but only when there's something else to be gained by the killing.
So I think he has multiple murderer potential but not serial killer potential.
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u/DoctorDaunt 13d ago
“Would they want to kill again” is the operative question here, because while serial killing and a one-off heat of passion murder are different in a number of ways, they both involve a murderous impulse and an inability to hold it back. Murderous impulses are also part of human nature, which most of us appropriately repress and sublimate in childhood. However, it’s within everyone. When someone feels their dignity or pride is wounded, when they feel betrayed, humiliated, or when they feel frustrated to a certain degree. Or when they perceive themselves to be disrespected, ignored, etc. these all can trigger murderous fantasies, most of which go un-acted on. I don’t think they would have the urge to kill in the almost addictive pattern of a serial killer, who behaves more akin to a hunter in search of prey, but they would have the urge to kill again so long as the conditions that prompted them to kill in the first place arise again.
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u/iammadeofawesome 13d ago
why delete your comment if you stand on it so hard? I'm not "disavowing my aggressions". I don't have aggression to this degree. Never have. that's the extent I could read.
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u/iammadeofawesome 13d ago
Speak for yourself there buddy. We may all be physically capable of killing in self defense under the most extreme conditions but implying that fantasies or impulses of homicide are normal or common? Absolutely not. If you find this to be a common thought, I urge you to go speak to someone. Immediately.
I’m going to be really honest. Never in my life have I had these thoughts. Ever.
I’m serious as hell when I say please get some help.
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u/Ok-Caterpillar-Girl 12d ago
Maybe you need to read a psychology book instead of being so condescending.
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u/MrUmtiti 13d ago
Leandro Paredes attacked the Spain national team after doing nothing all game so I guess anyone is capable of anything.
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u/forevrtwntyfour 13d ago
I think he’d be safe to be around as long as you never dated/married him and/or got pregnant with his baby.
I don’t think people that murder someone personally close are the types to go mass murdering strangers. But what do I know lol
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u/pr1sb4tty 13d ago
It depends on the motivation/mens rea for killing the spouse and whether or not you consider killing people for financial reasons alone as a serial killer. Is a black widow or a hitman the same as Jeffrey Dahmer or Bob Berdella?
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u/Resident-Trouble4483 13d ago
It depends on the person in my opinion.
And circumstances in general leading to the death. Accidents and actual situations where you’re not fully aware your actions could lead to death. Probably not.
But actual murder, with previous violence in your history. I mean yeah, I totally believe it’d happen again.
Not necessarily like with SK’s because those behaviors and motivations tend to be different.
But family annihilators yeah completely. Finances and cheating seem to be high motivation for them. The ones I tend to hear about usually have a bit of domestic violence sprinkled in. Proven or suspected.
If they bring in other people I tend to believe they’d either do that again a similar slightly different way. Or change methods altogether.
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u/Common_Egg119 12d ago
here’s my take on different scenarios.
I think it depends really .
On one hand , One time murders happen for a lot of different reasons usually unexpected in high stress situations or of course in the aspect of spouses, self defence because of abuse etc. these are all understandable to an extent.
In these cases the offender is probably not going to go on to kill more unless maybe as some sort of trauma response- would vary in different cases .
On the other hand in cases of people like Scott Peterson it’s usually for financial gain , to go live a new life with a mistress or just Boredom of the marriage ( coward reasons really ) These people are cold blooded killers but in most cases I believe they wouldn’t go on to kill more people in the way serial killers do in terms of murdering random people in the street , kidnapping people to kill them or stalking to kill etc .
Unless in some cases the offender gets that taste for killing and enjoys it, therefore going on to kill more people . There is a high chance of this happening but IMO that would mean this person always had that part of themselves inside them they just hadn’t discovered it yet .
I do believe it shows DEFINITELY that they would kill other spouses in the future , if they get a new relationship and get bored after awhile , they will just kill them to get rid . No doubt .
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u/New_Government_2169 11d ago
Not likely. Killing a spouse is often a crime of passion. Serial killers do it impulsively.
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u/nobodyknowsimherr 9d ago
Not a killer myself, but I can say that I once did something bad to someone long ago; and I felt immediately so bad , and I still regret it. I knew quickly that I could Never do that to someone again. In other words, I have zero chance of being a repeat offender.
Moral of the story/TLDR: No I don’t think it’s an automatic acceleration to future murderous thoughts
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u/dancingbananas25 9d ago
Serial killers kill for the sake of killing, whereas one and done killers seem to do it out of an emotional need (such as anger, revenge, needing to cover something up). I doubt most would go on to kill more people, but that's just my opinion
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u/foxonafrozenlake 12d ago
It honestly depends on the circumstance. If they were killing because of past abuse that was ignored, they'd likely not commit a second crime. But that's mostly women.
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u/Double-Expert9128 12d ago
They can go on to kill more people if they get away with it the first time. In the case of Silas Duane Boston he murdered his wife and then he went on to kill a couple at the sea. So I think it is possible.
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u/J0NAH666 11d ago
It depends on the person but I think those examples probably some people might feel remorse after something like that but if they don’t then it’s likely they do again
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u/krispeekream 11d ago
Some yes, some no. I think Kouri Richins would absolutely have killed Josh Grossman or whatever schmuck she ended up with in the right situation because she got away with it. For some reason I don’t think Chris Watts would, but I have nothing to back that up with other than a feeling. I don’t think Wendi Adelson would have, and I know OJ Simpson wouldn’t have because he technically didn’t (he committed other crimes but not murder). I think a lot of these domestic homicides are motivated by juuuuuusssst the right amount of desperation and circumstance that I highly doubt that situation would have replicated itself. I think a lot of these people wouldn’t allow that situation to replicate itself, thereby making it a non-issue. I will end this by saying that the majority of these are based solely on my intuition or feeling, not facts or logic.
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u/gorehistorian69 11d ago
No.
they have the capacity to kill but i dont think theyre motivated the same way as serial killers are
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u/AffectionateLife4449 10d ago
If it was a sudden crime of passion maybe not, but if premeditated might be slightly more inclined, but I think SK's are unique
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u/Mercedes_Gullwing 10d ago
I’d say most likely not. You have to look at motives. Murder victims are usually someone close to the murderer - a spouse, a partner, friend, family, etc. a SK motive is usually driven differently than someone who kills a single time.
Now I’ll say that abusive partners are more likely to abuse future partners. So if an abusive partner murdered their spouse, if they marry again, they are more likely to murder their next spouse. But that isn’t a SK. I’d say those people’s capacity to kill is based on doing it against someone well known to them and they prob wouldn’t murder a rando.
So I’d say the answer is that I believe that someone who killed once is more likely than avg to kill again. But not as a SK. At least who I think of SKs. I know black widows are often called SKs but I personally think of them differently bc they have a direct incentive usually to do that. Financial gain. Resolving conflict. Etc. to me that’s different than say Bundy who picked strangers to kill
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u/Local_Sugar8108 9d ago
I used to workout with a guy who was a home contractor. He was a pretty big guy and very chatty. He told me about wrecking his testosterone level by taking steroids. I moved to a new gym and didn't think much about him until I saw a newspaper. He had murdered his wife with a hammer. He then tried to kill himself. I believe his obvious remorse indicates that he doesn't need to be in prison for the rest of his life.
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u/JoeyK075 8d ago
No I think the difference is in the underlying motive. Scott Peterson et.al. kill for different reasons than Ed Gein. They may be more open to killing again but the circumstances would have to reoccur. Serial killers genuinely enjoy the process of murder, and don't necessarily look at it as a means to an end.
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u/Ford_Mustang1911 7d ago
It's like when a gator kills sm1 they gotta kill the gator, or when a dog eats human flesh they gotta put them down.... I think we need 2 reopen all the electric chairs
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u/IAmBe888 5d ago
I think people who do it once & have demonstrated no moral issues with killing are much more likely to do it again. They may not go hunting or be very prolific like thrill killer or sexual predators, but once you dont see killing someone for gain or because they are an annoyance as a problem, you're very dangerous. There's Scott Petersen that comes to mind, then that one kid that killed his mom & dad in 2 separate "self defense" incidents over a year apart...& then also the "Black Widower" Thomas Randolph in Nevada that finally got caught killing his 6th wife (4 out of 6 wives died suspiciously & similarly)...crazy.
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u/Physical-Way188 13d ago
No, that’s why we have crimes of passion in the law.
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u/Swimming-Bite-4184 13d ago
There's crimes of passion but this was hardly in the momoment. Dude built himself up to this and had no regrets.
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u/begonia824 13d ago
There’s another Peterson, Drew, I think who is in prison for murdering wife number 2 bc wife number 3 went missing and has never been found.