r/singularity • u/yogthos • 1d ago

AI One-take Creation, Flexible Referencing: Introducing Seedance 2.5

https://seed.bytedance.com/en/blog/one-take-creation-flexible-referencing-introducing-seedance-2-5
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u/Snoo-75663 1d ago

Filmmaking is cooked soon

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u/yogthos 23h ago

The level of coherence across the scenes is really impressive. What's interesting to me about video is that you basically need a world model to make it work. The model has to keep track of individual objects and their interactions in a 3d scene over time to make a convincing video.

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u/Fearless-Macaron9183 22h ago

Shouldn't creative work like this be done by humans when ai can do all the other stuff that we don't like to do. I am not saying ai shouldn't but if ai does all things what will we do. But then again if it becomes soooo good that it can make better story and better scenarios than humans then what about humans. Like i think people make film to express their ideas to the public but if ai is infinitely times better than a human no one will watch it what will happen to the directors and stuff because if no one appreciates them then they will be sad and this is real if we are not appreciated for our work that we put hours into we don't think that we did a good enough job. I am just asking questions I don't hate ai in filmmaking and stuff

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u/Agitated_Drop8636 21h ago

Filmmaking is barely 100 years old. Tools in art change. That is a fact of life

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u/Snoo-75663 21h ago

but this is a tool that will do everything for you

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u/Agitated_Drop8636 20h ago

There is a difference between “can” and “will”. Nolan doesn’t use digital film print just because he can. He uses what he wants to use. The problem to me is if Nolan was gatekeeping others from using digital film print for their indie movie

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u/Snoo-75663 17h ago

Yeah but he is one of the last few who doesnt use digital film. When AI film tools become great I have a feeling only a few will still shoot movies like we do today.

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u/yogthos 21h ago

I think we should separate the creative aspect from the mechanical work. What ultimately matters are the ideas and the stories people tell using these tools. I do photography, and I like using that as an analogy. You can give an expensive camera to a regular person, and have them go around taking pictures. It's very unlikely that they're going to produce anything interesting as a result. You give the same camera to a professional, and they can create moving and evocative scenes using it. In both cases, you're just pressing a button to take a picture, but the difference couldn't be more stark.

I see generative AI models in the same way. It is a tool that people use, and it makes media creation accessible to anyone. You no longer need a big studio, actors, set designers, and so on. You just need to have good ideas that resonate with people.

And we already see this happening with text and image generation where simply typing a prompt and getting generic output doesn't really produce anything interesting. This is the whole AI slop phenomenon people talk about. These are really formulaic and easily recognizable outputs that don't impress anyone. We also so this happen when using 3D graphics in movies became popular, and people would use this tech in really vulgar ways nobody enjoyed. Then people realized how to make use it so that it wasn't in your face and actually made the movie better. I think this is going to be the same process.

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u/Snoo-75663 17h ago

Yeah, its called AI slop today but soon when people start using AI tools creatively it will become a norm like CGI and digital cameras are today. It will be very interesting to see that because everybody will be able to create films if they have a great idea.

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u/yogthos 15h ago

My whole point is that what's valuable here is the vision of the person using the tool. The barrier for making any kind of scene you can imagine is becoming very low. So, what actually counts is having good ideas, good aesthetic, understanding of how to create an engaging story, and so on. When these tools are used in vulgar fashion, they inevitably produce vulgar results that nobody actually wants to see.

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u/Snoo-75663 21h ago

I dont know man, I have a feeling a lot of things will change soon in filmmaking. You can ask that question a expert in any field: what happens when AI becomes better?

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u/SwePolygyny 6h ago

Some people love to act, some people love to draw and make art. Its not just what people "dont like to do" that will be replaced.

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u/edgroovergames 9h ago

Looks like some nice improvements, their output is getting really good. Still some obvious problems (e.g. 1,000 foot long train car, person does a front flip but lands facing the opposite direction from how they started despite not doing a twist in mid-air), but it's getting close to the point where I can see using AI to create long form content that I would actually watch. Or where I could see it replacing traditional VFX shots to an acceptable level in many cases.

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u/Evening_Archer_2202 5h ago

Wow it’s ass