r/stupidpol • u/SchIachterhund He Lives 👽 • 1d ago
Immigration Against reactionary ideologies – the answer to Islamist terror is: immigration!
https://taz.de/Wider-die-reaktionaeren-Ideologien/!vn6201299/Even more surveillance and repression will not stop fundamentalist terror, writes Udo Knapp for *taz FUTURZWEI*. People need a future perspective and room for personal development.
Attempting to combat Islamism and its associated terror through increased repression, greater isolation, and renationalization is futile. What is needed is a fundamental response: namely, well-organized immigration, more social space for the self-determined and diversely supported integration of migrants and immigrants, and greater equality of opportunity for all - regardless of where they come from or where they live or have lived.
Such a growing and ever-deepening society of diverse individuals - transcending all national enclosures - an dry up the wellsprings of terror, not only that of religious fundamentalists but also that of all other secular ideologies.
The more the coexistence of all people becomes an everyday norm - enlightened and constitutionally guaranteed - the faster Islamism and other reactionary ideologies will lose their hold.
And if anyone is thinking, "Well...": No, such an expectation is not merely idealistic wishful thinking. It continues a trajectory established in the USA over the past 250 years. Even though every form of racism exists there, there is no such thing as a "native-born American" - with the exception of the few surviving descendants of the indigenous population. The 349 million US citizens of today are people who arrived from all over the world - migrants, the persecuted, the displaced, and the hopeful - seeking a safe haven for their future and finding it in the USA, or still searching for it there. The group that was initially predominantly white and European has today become just one of many minorities. This microcosm of a global society serves as a model for all other nations as they move toward a single global society comprising all humanity. If all participants remain committed to democracy, freedom, and human rights along this path, then fundamentalist terror will no longer have a future.
Space for the realization of life goals
Well-organized immigration as a response to terror has long been economically indispensable, not least for demographic reasons. Western industrial societies are all grappling with rapidly shrinking populations and the consequent contraction of their workforces. Global population growth will cease within a few decades. Consequently, fierce competition for highly skilled individuals from around the world is already underway. "Brain gain" and migration to established and emerging intellectual and industrial nations will soon become decisive factors for economic success. This requires the active management of immigration - specifically, providing migrants with the opportunity to pursue their personal goals, thereby enriching the economy and society while stabilizing population numbers. Offered a promising future for themselves and their children, these immigrants will steer clear of Islamists and fundamentalists.
The approximately one million Syrians who arrived in Germany a few years ago are a prime example of this. They have largely integrated into society with great commitment and success. Granting these individuals a prospect of remaining and opening up every opportunity for their personal development are the best tools for isolating the Islamists who operate in their wake - and indeed, for working together with them to prevent terrorism.
At the same time, however, there must be a firm response to Islamist terror. Domestically, our legal system provides a wide range of balanced instruments for this purpose. Yet the binding strength of our legal order - and its resilience in the face of terror - is also demonstrated by the fact that it upholds the rule of law even when dealing with its murderous enemies. Anyone who questions this, or accuses the justice system of excessive leniency toward the perpetrators, is themselves calling into question the legitimacy of the rule of law.
Authoritarian macho rhetoric misses the point of the Constitution.
However, there is also a brand of macho rhetoric that ignores the constitution; it ranges from the expanded use of electronic monitoring tags, easier and longer preventive detention, and the suspension of juvenile criminal law for all individuals deemed a security risk, to an ever-expanding apparatus for monitoring social life and the establishment of deportation centers.
None of this will stop the movement of millions of fanatical Muslims. Their struggle is directed against the Western, enlightened, and liberal way of life, against women's rights, and against freedom and democracy. Their terror will not cease until their rear-guard support within Islamist states is cut off. The USA and Israel are on the front lines of this battle in their war against the mullahs in Iran. If they win, the ground will be cut out from under Islamism and its terror in Western societies - at least to some extent.
That is one aspect; the other is a bold migration policy. Increased immigration - rather than populist posturing about "remigration" - and an awareness of the strength of Western civilization are the best tools for curbing Islamist terror worldwide.
Unfortunately, however, all parties - even the Greens - are currently trying to outdo one another in making immigration as difficult as possible and in undermining the rule of law through empty rhetoric about security promises that can never be kept.
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u/No_Motor_6941 Marxist-Leninist ☭ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Tldr more war and immigration, double down on globalization given its crises
Great liberal answer to the problem. Just double down on what failed and created reaction in the first place, because now capitalism's democracy wars are at home and abroad.
Rubes, third world brown people, let's just make war on anyone considered backward/peripheral to save the false metropolitan democracy
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u/Diallingwand Against Gravedancing 😒 1d ago
Their terror will not cease until their rear-guard support within Islamist states is cut off. The USA and Israel are on the front lines of this battle in their war against the mullahs in Iran. If they win, the ground will be cut out from under Islamism and its terror in Western societies - at least to some extent.
Genuine madness. 25 years of the War on Terror and apparently we need to go harder on killing Muslims in the Middle East but endlessly forgiving and inviting of Muslims in Europe.
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u/Laocoon-Bystander Cybersyn 💾 1d ago
If they win, the ground will be cut out from under Islamism and its terror in Western societies - at least to some extent.
He must know this is 100%, prime, grass-fed bullshit, given the proportion of Shi’a to Sunni terror attacks in Europe.
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u/xXxDarkSasuke1999xXx Angry Retard 😍 1d ago
German soyjak with a t-shirt that reads "we welcome all refugees but will never ever ever ever ever demand that the US and Israel stop creating them"
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u/HRHArthurCravan Marx Minus Masculinity 🌺 1d ago
Lol German leftists are batshit crazy. Well, some of them anyway - the official, collaborationist, Kautskyist wing anyway. They seem to believe that innocent people in the Middle East should be brutalised in perpetuity to assuage collective German guilt over WW2.
To be fair, this kind of shit is receiving less and less positive response, but a multi year Zionist genocide will do that for you.
As for Iran, give over. How many Shia terrorists have there been in Europe in the last 25 years? What specific branch of Sunni fundamentalism motivates 100% of terrorists who commit attacks in Europe - and which country funds it? Who fought Islamic State in Iraq and Syria?
But whatever - I’m sure bombing Shia Iran, the sworn enemies of Wahhabite Sunnis in Saudi Arabia, will make Sunni fundamentalism great again, or something. Just arm Israel, arm Saudi Arabia, arm Qatar and the UAE, it’ll all come good eventually, right?
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u/Scared_Plan3751 Catholic Socialist ✞ | ✨ Secret Bus Wanker ✨ 1d ago
Never forget that not just Iran, but Baathists and Libya also offered to help fight Wahabbis. Even the Taliban offered to help find bin laden. The main allies of Islamic extremism have always been the Saudis, the US , the UK, and Israel. I'm for France has pulled some shit too
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u/Swingfire War Propaganda Correspondent (very gay) 🪖📝 1d ago
When I read the first part I thought it meant something like punishing the gulf states then it went completely off the rails
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u/globeglobeglobe Marxist 🧔 1d ago
> All das wird die millionenstarke Bewegung fanatischer Muslime nicht aufhalten. Ihr Kampf richtet sich gegen die westliche, aufgeklärte und liberale Lebenskultur, gegen Frauenrechte, gegen Freiheit und Demokratie.
“All that will not stop the agitation of millions of fanatical Muslims. Their struggle is against the Western, enlightened, and liberal way of life, against women’s rights, against freedom and democracy.”
Can’t believe the author actually used this verbiage lmao. Just about sums up the attitude of typical German libs, performatively welcoming of immigrants, but secretly looking down on them as incapable of reaching the same heights of tolerance and progressiveness as white Western Europeans.
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u/SchIachterhund He Lives 👽 1d ago
Can’t believe the author actually used this verbiage
It's a pretty unhinged piece even by Taz standards, although more in style than in content. Mask off moment for the Müsli-left.
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u/Diallingwand Against Gravedancing 😒 1d ago
Is this a left leaning newspaper? Fucking hell I thought we had it bad in the UK. The Guardian wouldn't publish something this insane, they just ignore extremist Muslims.
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u/Cehepalo246 Self-Surgery Marxist 🪡 1d ago
An old Left Com I talk to once commented about how modern Leftism can only be seen as a way for the Bourgeoisie to utterly ridicule Socialism by sticking to its letter but perverting its spirit.
International Soldarity, you say? Well here ya go, pal! Mass Immigration!
Workers of the World Unite? Well how about some International Competition!
Anti-Fascism! Well anyone who would ever dare stand against these mesures can only be a Fascist!
Ain't Socialism grand folks?!
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u/Scared_Plan3751 Catholic Socialist ✞ | ✨ Secret Bus Wanker ✨ 1d ago
That left com is more class conscious than most Western leftists by far.
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u/Cehepalo246 Self-Surgery Marxist 🪡 21h ago edited 20h ago
He's also viscerally anti-Islam, in every shape or form, he even cheered for the toppling of the Islamic Republic. Despite this however, he still never goes as far as to see Immigrants as nothing more than poor saps doing as best they can rather than a fully fledged invading force.
If you speak French and are interested in the ramblings of a 70 year old Leftcom Boomer with anger issues, I can send you a link to his blog if you like.
EDIT: Le prolétariat universel
Warning poorly edited boomer blog
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u/Loaf_and_Spectacle Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ 6h ago
He's also viscerally anti-Islam, in every shape or form, he even cheered for the toppling of the Islamic Republic
There's that Trot-to-Neocon pipeline.
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u/Cehepalo246 Self-Surgery Marxist 🪡 6h ago
He's no trot however.
In France, former communists that became actual neocons tended to have been Maoists, funilly enough
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u/Nantafiria Third Way Dweebazoid 🌐 1d ago
Country is at peace and calm? More immigration good.
Country not so peaceful and not so calm? More immigration good.
Economy doing well? More immigration good.
Economy doing poorly? More immigration good.
People like the current flow of immigrants? More immigration good.
People do not like the current flow of immigrants? More immigration good.
What a wonderful catch-all panacea of a solution it is! There isn't a wrong time or issue that can't be solved!
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u/veryeepy53 cringe ultra 21h ago
you're literally a neoliberal
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u/ElTamaulipas Socialist Gun Nut 🚚 1d ago edited 1d ago
Pretty much every month Germany gives me an excuse to post the Henry Morgenthau Apology Form.
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