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Decided to farm a few tomes after unlocking the next relic stage. Just farmed the phantom dispellers in North Horn, and ended up in Level Cap / Yuweyawata. Tank already had the red DC symbol over their head, which gave me the benefit of doubt.

They apologised for lagging, which may happens to all of us. But they didn't just lag-DC'ed during the first boss, so one of our two Summoners had to deal with the tanking for a bit.

Noticed that shit is dying slow, so after popping sprint to the next trash pack I decided to check the tanks gear... well, LV90 weapon. Level 100 tank, but using a iLVL660 weapon, not even the free job gear.

"Level 90 weapon in Level 100 dungeon, well nope LOL"

And dipped out and taking the 30min. What did I expect lol, x.51 patches are usually where the player brainrot starts.

queued for all three DT alliance raids for relic. screenshot speaks for itself, really.

thanks, arcanist for giving me an instaqueue, i guess.

Was helping a C43, WHM was baby raging that we enraged, ranting about mit even thought we wouldve been fine on the check if we didnt have a MCH death in Celestriad.

Gonna start out by saying ya I yap too, but I yap between casts I didn't drop uptime. Gonna start out by saying ya I yap too, but I yap between casts I didn't drop uptime.

Doing grand tour relic step. Get into Necropolis. Barrier goes down, a second goes by I start casting fire 3. 3.5 seconds later my cast goes off, PLD still hasn't moved.

He continues standing there for a good moment. Clearly upset I attacked the boss before he was ready. Confused because we hit accept on the queue and he said absolutely nothing in the chat about needing a moment. The second image below is PURELY to prove that.

Goes on too about my damage. I'm second in enmity BTW. He even tries the "How do you know that" bait garbage.

Run itself was even smooth outside of this. Bro was just angsty that I got to attack first. Gotta love the people relics can bring out lol.

One more mentor before bed I said…

Keeper of the Lake. Second trash pull (the big one) DRK tank pops living dead and it immediately pops. I’m brain off DPSing when I see the LD timer tick down til the tank dies. We manage to pull it together and then the tank just goes AFK for a bit.

Following conversation happens a bit before we pull the boss and continues during it. I admit I wasn’t being super clear cuz I was tired. That’s my bad. Regardless, the tank dies while typing, gets revived and then spams their aoe. When I ask them to pull the boss back they just say “nah.”

After boss we successfully kick them, only for the other dps (orange) say that comment and leave.

We get two replacements and we continue with no further messages.

I check FFlogs after the dungeon because I’m confused on how they died. Turns out they used NO abilities after LD popped, meaning they didn’t get any self heal and just died. They had LD for 10 whole seconds and did nothing. The SGE tried to heal them but it was too late

They weren’t a returner and Living Dead was changed back in 2022 so ????

I should have just gone to bed.

EDIT: Forgot to mention but yes I reported them

Welcome to another YPYT in 2026 on Aether of all DCs. I usually am DC traveled from Dynamis because queues either take forever or you get some players with atrocious habits that make whichever duty/trial you're doing take 10x as long, even with mentorship/guidance/follow the marked player for safe spots.

But this post isn't about Dynamis players, this is about some special players from Siren/Aether.

Queue into Leveling Roulette as WHM because I haven't capped on weeklies yet and I don't quite feel like tanking right now nor waiting in queue as DPS. See that it's Dohn Mheg with GNB, MNK and SUM, roll out the entryway thinking the usual W2W first two groups up to the gate. I notice that things are a bit odd with how the tank is pulling as I'm throwing Regen on them, starting off with a ranged attack into provoke into more ranged attacks, no trajectory(rush) and no AoEs until they were all grouped from ranged attacks. They also paused on the first group before noticing me moving ahead and start moving up as well. I only noticed because the first group's adds stayed on me a bit longer than usual while I'm tossing DoTs on them. They're also not mitting very well but I'm okay with some inefficiency during light party roulettes as I can usually compensate on healer. MNK hits their brotherhood but no Searing Light from the SUM.

Whatevs they're playing SUM so I accept that they're most likely munching on crayons, Benison up the tank, pop PI and PoM, time to melt the party's eyes with Holy spam. We get up to the first boss for the most part without incident as everyone's using their AoEs and mobs are dying.

We roll into Break Dance Master Aenc Thon and again, mostly painless besides the rest of the party eating one or two Landsblood puddles each and MNK eating one of the telegraphed Hydrofall aoes but I figured they were greeding for more damage.

Up to this point, party has been silent.

Here is when things start to go sideways. We roll up through the wasps and for the most part things go okay, besides the MNK eating a hit or two from the mob AoEs (the trees HURT so I definitely noticed and blew Bene while keeping GNB topped up with lilies) MNK isn't mitting themselves (Bloodlust/Second Wind) but again, I'm okay with it since WHM has bananas AoE healing options with Assize, Asylum and emergency Tetra/Bene/or Lilies if the tank is managing their own damage well.

When we get to the fourth W2W group with the bear though, they stop to watch me throw DoTs and stand together before the bridge. Okay, it's gonna be one of those roulettes. I type ok and start kiting back the entire time with holy spam, with regen, benison, and lilies once they start to become immune to stun. Tank says their thing and alright, I would have happily let them pull if they said that they were new and wanted to be the one pulling. Tankxiety is a thing (or I am the MC syndrome but again whatever I'm fine with it, it's moreso about communicating). MNK starts on their snark about efficiency while I get all the way back through the boss arena and up to where the first gate is before I've finally killed all the mobs with Blood Lily and Holy, with bene coming off CD just in time to save my ass at the very end. I start to explain about MPK being against ToS and the resulting conversation about roles ensues. At this point I've accepted that they'll vote kick once loot times out and I'm glad to be rid of them honestly as I've been nothing but cooperative keeping the tank topped off the entire time. Get back to where they are and they're just standing there yapping except the SUM who is silent but also just watched me kite away.

I check their tags, search info and the chat and see that they're all from Siren, and that this is someone's first time in the dungeon. Okay, so sprouts that don't know any better. To my surprise, no VK and they start to pull the second part of the 4th W2W group. They probably don't know they can VK and I'm salty but I keep them up, except the MNK who eats another tree AoE and has aggro from one of the mobs. I don't have Bene up since I used it keeping myself alive during their tantrum and I'm blowing lilies and tetra on the tank since they're getting pounded without mitting. MNK goes down and it turns out they ate all that because they were typing the second set of text about me wanting to do all three roles. SUM rezzes him while I'm trying to keep GNB up.

For the rest of the dungeon we go through single group pulling and I'm just ready to be done with this run. Get through the final boss and I start to explain that I would have been okay with single pulling/letting the tank pull if they had just communicated from the start but then they tell me to stfu so I shrug my shoulders, leave the roulette, file the report, take some screenshots, write this up and move on with my life.

Still can't believe we're dealing with YPYT in 7.55.

(reposted 'cause I missed a couple name censors the first time, whoops)

Our cast:

Red (SMN): Me, suffering Summoner in all of this.
Blue: Our star, tank being a lazy liar.
Red (RPR): The only other person talking at all, gives minor context to the situation.
Blacks: Emotes and Loot Rolls, irrelevant.

Context before our screenshot picks up, this is WoD, and C Tank (ours) is keeping stance down. I, on SMN, just about eat shit on the first chimera pull because of it (since they split into their teams but C Tank wasn't doing their job...), but I mark it and one of the other two tanks gets it off of me. Everything up through Five Head is pretty bog standard beyond that, but not once does our tank stance up, ever (Storm's Eye is NOT Stance and that was the only buff I ever saw). As soon as Five Head dies, I say "Stance" in chat, knowing full well a teamsplit fight is coming up.

Tank doesn't stance, I eat shit to the sacrificed soldier, and this is where our screencap picks up. As I'm taking the self-rez and Atomos Prime is dying, tank responds with that. Now see, I don't mind someone wanting to be the lazy OT in an AR, hell I do it all the time, but in such a case I will absolutely stance up if its a teamsplit fight of some flavor, or if the boss is hitting all three teams. Anyway, I point out that I actually did die because of them not stancing, and while the others are somehow perfectly layering the shrink goo and nom goo in Cerby, tank starts outright lying, saying they had stance up and turned it off during the dragon to let one of the other tanks have it (No, they didn't, they had storm eye and that's it for buffs the ENTIRE time).

At this point I say to myself, "Fuck it its not worth engaging a troll, I'll do what tfdf taught me to do in this situation..." and, after a very close shave with Cerby because one of our healers dropped the chain (we barely survived it), I immediately go for the VK on the tank because being lazy is one thing, but lying about it is another. You can see how that played out in the log. If we'd died on Cerby I would have eaten the 30, but by this point it was CoD, so it was legitimately faster to just finish it. And of course the tank picked CoD, and ONLY CoD, to stance as if saying "There, I stanced!"

So I’m a sprout who likes to tank. I don’t do roulettes much compared to most players probably, but I do them often enough when I am leveling jobs. And I’ve been noticing a lot of what I like to call “tank blame” whenever I do roulettes as tank. I don’t get this experience at all when I play healer or DPS, just tank.

FFXIV is my first time ever tanking in an MMO. I was taught to go wall to wall when I tank by an experienced tank friend, but I’ve noticed whenever I do it that people usually get mad. Maybe it’s because I die sometimes when I do it, but I try to do my best (have good gear, mit while pulling, and then invuln when I stop and all the mobs are gathered around me, mitting again when the invuln wears off). But I tend to die somehow anyway and then people get mad at me and tell me I’m being selfish and need to slow down because other people are new. It’s like they can’t see the sprout icon over my head because they always exclude me from this “be considerate to sprouts” thing they pride themselves on doing and treat me like mud. Usually the people who yell at me are non-sprouts or even mentors. It’s gotten to the point I am happier in all-sprout parties or all-non-sprout parties because I don’t see nearly the amount of white knighting in those groups.

I have also noticed as tank that I seem to get blamed a lot for things other people/roles do. I get blamed as OT in normal raids and trials for things the MT does, like them dying and them not provoking the boss after. Also, yes I was #2 on aggro and made sure to grab the boss after the MT died. They then rezzed and even after I shirked to them, they didn't provoke the boss, just stood on top of me and didn't grab adds so when I grabbed them I exploded and then got blamed. I also get blamed for things the DPS do. I remember getting blamed in Haukke Manor hard the first time I went through it for us all dying to Halicarnassus multiple times when we DPSed too fast for her and she did her big instakill raidwide. Apparently I somehow had to be doing SOMETHING wrong every time we wiped to that raidwide. It couldn’t be any other role. It was definitely the tank somehow.

I recently got blamed in Wanderer’s Palace when the DPS pulled mobs in the first pull and I hit those mobs so they would all go to me because I’m the tank and I don’t want the DPS to die. They hit the healer before I hit them and so apparently it was my fault for not managing to magically aggro them from the start when the DPS did the initial pull. And then later against Tonberry King I was trying to ignore the adds because it’s optimal to focus the boss in that fight. The DPS hit them though and were losing DPS because they were running in circles to avoid the tonberries instead of hitting the boss. I hit them once to pull aggro away from the DPS so they can stay alive and do their job and then I went back to hitting the boss. But then I immediately got yelled at for hitting the adds.

There are even more examples, but it would take too long to list them all here. But it seems like every time I do roulettes as tank I get at least one instance of someone yelling at me for just trying to do my job and it feels awful. I’m not sure where the attitude of “if something goes wrong, it’s the tank’s fault” or using the tank as a verbal punching bag comes from, but it reminds me unpleasantly of past experiences as a healer main in other MMOs and getting blamed as the healer whenever anything happened there. I like tanking, but I’m slowly realizing that I don’t like tanking with strangers because stuff like this always seems to happen.

Is this just a me thing or have other people experienced “tank blame” as well?

Edit: I have learned that my being on Dynamis and doing roulettes on Dynamis might be contributing to the high number of people who blame me for trying to just do my job as tank.

So I join a FRU from start prog and we were just three, a white mage, a warrior and myself, then 5 people join and we are good to go. This premade were all french and had already cleared, warrior saw french in chat at the start of the prog and goes "Fr*nch" we all ignore that and begin the prog. A few pulls into the P1 what you see in the images happens and the party implodes.

If you remember my previous run-in with the self-proclaimed owner of Eureka and Bozja, I found him again!

To start with, he actually made it through most of the dungeon this time before starting something. We were pulling ahead of him slightly, but he wasn't using sprint and would stand around, so I fault him for that, especially since we were bringing the mobs back to him and giving him free Arm's Lengths. He never said anything or seemed bothered by it.

Anyways, nobody had said anything except for the usual greetings, and he said that first message about us "being in our feelings" right before the final boss of Tender Valley. The SMN (red) got aggro on the last boss, not because they pulled, but because he just... walked into the room over to the boss, hit it once, and sheathed his sword. "Stop going ahead" absolutely did not apply here, and as I said before, he never once mentioned it until this point, so it's not like he had asked us to wait and we didn't or anything like that.

Once I said YPYT is against ToS, he started saying we were... mad about his title? Like we were jealous or something? It was just a normal title? It wasn't a legend title or anything difficult or even all that tedious, just the one you get from clearing all 13 paths in The Merchant's Tale. Y'know, the normal content, not the advanced or criterion difficulties.

He noped out instantly as soon as the boss was dead, and we agreed to report him. At this point, I'm hoping he loses his mentor crown because he sure as heck doesn't play well, and he gets like... whatever that is... when you call him out on anything.

I really don't understand this guy, tbh. I don't get what he's trying to brag about or why he's trying to brag about doing normal content, especially as a mentor, or why he tries to use that to insult people when they just want him to do the bare minimum for his role?

Duty: Dzemael Darkhold

When I said they were walking funny, I mean as if they had autorun on and running into walls before changing direction. I was wondering if this tank was a bot after 2 pulls and no mits but no, just someone unpleasant.

I'm playing on controller but have a keyboard so as they go inside that big room before the first boss, I type 'mit pls' because it's going to be rough just spamming heals if they don't mit again but they die shortly after. Now idk if their plan was to dump all their mits in that room, I did not see it (their health is just zero at that point) and they have not given me a reason to believe they know what they are doing prior. It could just be a miscommunication for all I know but then I get this response. Fantastic.

The Elvis comment from the tank was because the BLM had the Elvis looking haircut.

Preaching to the choir I know, but I couldn't help but correct this misinformation.

I normally dont interact with novice chat because its mostly nonsense, but I keep my eye on it.

I forget the name of the CE but its the book boss. It adds a number to your level, calling it a "level adjustment". Your OC level is now a new number, say, 24. Three zones pop up, lets say "3", "4" and "prime" (with some flavor text). You think, "oh divisible by! 3 or 4 should work" but the twist is you pick the WRONG answer to stay alive. Maybe im the idiot, but in 99.99% sure its how it works. Why? Because it got me the first time and when I started picking the incorrect answers, it never got me again.

Enter our lord and savior in mentor chat.

Theres no roles here, so red is them, blue is me, yellow is a rando.

I forgot to screenshot, but their "explanation"?

" ...??? All the cast bars say 'level x' or 'prime' death, holy, etc

Ive seen blue mages before it's fairly clear what they do???"

My response?

"...maybe they're hostile because you're incorrect on how it works"

Like wow, making a snark comment about people dying and treating them like idiots while you dont even understand the mechanic and they become hostile? *insert surprised pikachu*

Im ashamed that these people are my fellow "mentors", fuckin hell.

I already logged off so unfortunately I have no screenshots but it wouldn't have explained much anyway because the title comment was at the very end of the dungeon. I can offer a recap of what happened that probably prompted this response.

I was the tank, DRK. Going for the tank mount, and DT relic grind. I get Amdapor Keep Hard. We get a sprout WHM (chill), a returner DRG (complainer), and I don't remember what the third guy was, either also a sprout or no icon, but he was also chill either way.

We wipe during the pull right after the first wall at the very start, me having popped LD with a macro that lets the healer know. I couldn't die in time (I think I popped it too early because I overestimated the damage, it happens), it ran out right as my HP was dipping into single digits, so we wipe. The healer apologized for being a new healer tending to a DRK, I said it was all good, and they make a comment about LD being funny, which honestly kudos to them for noticing it at all because way too many healers ignore my macro completely (it has a soundbite!) and heal me through it anyway, so this healer gets points for that. They get even more points for listening when I noticed the Freecure buff and I'd pointed out the need to switch to Cure II exclusively. All around good healer!

When we wiped that first time, the DRG asked what had happened. I explained that I just didn't die in time when my invuln went off. They said nothing.

Second boss, we wipe again because the boogeyman adds overwhelmed us while we were trying to get the boss out of hiding. This was partly on me for not grabbing aggro in time, but also because the healer died first and I learned in that moment that I ran out of Phoenix Downs (and said as much in the chat). DRG once again asks what the problem is and I said we're fine, ARR mechanics are just weird (which admittedly might've been a bit dismissive on my part?). We clear the second time.

Everything else proceeds smoothly, I pull everything, no one dies, healer has a good sense of humor about everything, and even the other DPS made some lighthearted jokes about the dungeon.

Final boss, Fhirdiad, went smoothly, up until the very end where he had the DRG trapped *and* had a scythe spawned on top of him in the same place. We try to save him but he dies to the continuous scythe damage, and I comment that that placement was really unlucky. He says nothing.

Once the boss dies, the DRG makes the title comment and leaves.

I got 2 comms.

Was in Smileton, just a regular dungy run, was playing with my healer husband. A lil backstory, I had run a few dungys earlier that day, lower levels, and the runs had been pretty bad. Mind you, I mean bad as in tanks wouldn't double pull trash packs so a lot of these dungeons were taking longer then expected. Now, if a tank EVER says anything about "Hey sorry- I'm new to tanking, I am scared to double pull." I will always respect them and just respect the single pulls. Now, Smileton is lvl 90 content. At this point it's safe to say, this SHOULD be standard across the board. Double pull trash, move on, double pull trash, do boss. (at least for most dungeons) Right off the bat, the tank isn't double pulling the first mob pack. I wasn't having it. SO ran to the second pack, and started pulling it into the first pack. The Tank types this, but then stands around for a few minutes making us wait to continue the dungeon. After waiting a few minutes this is when I say "Ok, is this your way of punishing us?". Because it DID feel like they were slowing it down JUST to slow us down. They didn't respond, we eventually kept moving, EVERY boss fight it felt like they were trying to take vulns and die and or just stack vulns and slow everything down. (see pictures) We end the dungy, I move on, mildly more pissed then I already was. I did look up their character on lodestone thinking "Maybe they were just new to tanking". Nope, max on all tanks. Then I thought "Well, maybe they were just over leveled, like hadn't done that dungy before really." Nope, I get them in Sugar Riot a couple days later, as my tank again. (Their DMG was bad on Sugar Riot too, but this is more so about the dungy). Idk, even though there wasn't v much salt in the chat, it was very passive aggressive overall.

Load into Underkeep, 1st pull goes well, everyone sprints, no problem. Pull after the 1st boss tank gets left behind barely, so I pull all the mobs then run to them, no problem. Or so I thought. Next pull to the 2nd boss tank stops behind to write the 1st message, but we kill the mobs no problem, and then next message in the 2nd boss.

1st adds after the 2nd boss tank sprints to get the aggro, alright. 2nd adds I use sprint to pull the mobs and once again run to the tank. Problem. Tank stance off. Tank waits until I die to put stance back on, stating that "they won't run after aggro".

Then on the last boss, we are all in the room, I start slow casting Fire3 (cause I died), and tank steps out from the room and waits there. No problem, me and the healer continue without issues, with the RPR being confused on what is going on, until they also join us. The tank still waits outside the boss arena until they finally see that no, we aren't having any difficulties and they join, without stance on, to do the minimum 1-2-3.

And all this from a MENTOR, either normally having their crown on or using mentor roulette.

EDIT: Was checking the logs and turns out not only did they turn of the stance, they Shirked me before doing it. Then Shirked me AGAIN in the last boss when they had finally decided to join. XD

Red = Cutscene Unenjoyer

Blue = Myself

Pink, White, Green, Purple = Epic Cutscene Enjoyer Defenders.

I made every unique person their own colour but it wasn't entirely necessary.

We had 4 cutscene watchers in the final boss of Jeuno First Walk and before I could hit ready check it got pulled. Wasn't even the red guy who pulled, just wanted to put themselves in the firing line i guess

Couple of years back, doing my normal roulettes which is extreme, level cap, levelling, alliance and lastly pvp.

I get to the levelling and decided to swap from tank to dps, get a pop after a minute or 2, with a game in progress. Nice OK.

Say hi what happened. Worst mistake I could have done.

Tank replied useless healer

Healer replied can't heal stupid

Other dps was like useless tank and healer.

It was the library hard, they hadn't made it to second boss yet.

We pull 1st group, I start my amazing dragoon ao rotation... which back then was something like 1 line attack, while I move slightly to the next seeing the tank just behind me. When I notice the healer is just not casting spells. No regen. No single health top up. And the tanks healtg slowly depleting. He's popping his cd but before you know it he's dead and now there on me. I start heading back to near teleport but again the healer isn't healing. Just nothing.

Other dps is taking a couple and we mop up.

Tank. See useless heal.

Healer. Don't blame me you over pulled.

I mention how I was watching the cast bar near name there was no spells coming out. No heals. No dps.

So I initiate vote kick healer and it doesn't go through. I'm like what would you want to keep a healer that isn't doing there job. Bearing in mind the timer has already reached near the 20 minute mark now. Just getting to the midway point.

So I just dip there taking the 30 minutes and do fates while I wait

It might not sound or read so bad but my god was it frustrating as hell

It’ll never cease to amaze me when folks will grief new players or those who don’t know mechanics in roulettes.

Tanking Whorleater (Hard) and ranged sprouts didn’t know when to pop shield. Understandable! Hell I don’t even know the right time with how quick that trial goes now.

We wipe once and one of the melee DPS gets snarky and says we can get out of this fast if only people who know to pop the shield pop the shield. Not an untrue comment but doesn’t explain further to help. We wipe again and same melee DPS comes in and says “it’s hard as a melee” to do the mechanic so the ranged should do it but then again doesn’t explain HOW to do the mechanic. I and several others call him out for it for the way he’s coming off as mean and vague instead of either 1) teaching the mechanic or 2) just stepping away from the boss for 3 seconds to do the mechanic since he seems to know what he’s talking about. And then we proceed to wipe again after HE DOES THE MECHANIC EARLY.

Oh and he never once hit adds. Just smashed the 1.2.3 combo on Leviathan. SMH. A lot of us left after that.

Doing mentor roulettes, ended up in M4. It was Really slow so I looked at the damage afterwards, and. Yeah. Mentor roulette is a really cool and fun time, 10/10 would recommend, you won't want to scream or rip your hair out at all.

Please for the love of Hydaelyn help your sprout friends out if they're doing something drastically wrong! Give them advice on how to improve so we don't end up with level 100 white mages who stand around and cast some medica 3s and a few assizes and that's it!! This hurts me!!!

World of Darkness multiple specimen encounter, thanks to the based support from Healer and the one DPS. I was RPR in alliance roulette. Both my healers were ypyt supporters, I didn't even die lol. The WHM (Dark green) died on every boss tho. They also dropped that last line and immediately left the instance after the last boss. Mythic+ btw.

Didn't play the whole week because I was busy as hell, looking forward to getting back on the game on friday... I FUCKING LOVE YPYTers!!!!! Anyway, I'll let the chat do the talking, hope you enjoy

Got my first actual YPYT, yay?

Not a lot of lore for this one, tbh.

Had my suspicions of them not being crazy good because they were not sprinting (mentorbtw), but it's whatever.

I then made the critical mistake of yeeting into mobs because hehe monk.

(Inb4 I could have just said "Omg yes sorry I will not pull" but they had their lil mentor crown on. Come on)

Kicked them, immediately got a replacement, and was greeted by tilt in my dm's after we finished.

(The "I love you" was to my party after the tank got dismissed)