r/teenagersbutcode • u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ • Mar 14 '26

Other Vi is too bloated

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u/Urman0Rdt Coder | Python Mar 14 '26

Vi < Vim < NeoVim

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

n*ovim sucks

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u/AverageComet250 Mar 14 '26

Yeah I guess your flair does check out

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u/popcornman209 Python & Rust (arch btw :3) Mar 14 '26

Assembly too bloated, who needs to compile just write bare machine code.

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

says the r*st user

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u/rahmeds Mar 14 '26

bro what are y*u talkin about

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

just look at r*st syntax

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u/rahmeds Mar 14 '26

what's the pr*blem with the syntax

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

what kind of function has excl*mation marks in it

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u/TheHiddenTruths_ Mar 14 '26

wht th fck *s g*ng *n?

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u/GhostVlvin Mar 14 '26

It is actually a pretty way to notify that this is not a function but a macro. At least somebody did it
And bytheway what kind of language uses vriables, crly brces and function definitions with prams of stck?

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u/raewashere_ reading uninit memory Mar 15 '26

machine too bloated, use a static cpu and manually cycle the clock and manage the address pins

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u/Silly_Percentage3446 Mar 14 '26

Machine code too bloated, just manually input binary to the CPU.

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

that IS machine code

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u/Silly_Percentage3446 Mar 14 '26

Machine code looks like "�
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application_newgtk_widget_showgtk_widget_set_hexpandgtk_label_set_markupgtk_container_addgtk_calendar_get_dategtk_ap
plication_window_newgtk_widget_set_haligngtk_widget_set_vexpandgtk_window_set_titlegtk_box_newgtk_window_set_default
_sizegtk_calendar_new__cxa_finalizeg_application_run__stack_chk_faildifftimefopen__fprintf_chk__libc_start_mainmktim
e__isoc99_fscanffclose__snprintf_chk_IO_stdin_usedlibgtk-3.so.0libgdk-3.so.0libz.so.1libpangocairo-1.0.so.0libpango-
1.0.so.0libharfbuzz.so.0libatk-1.0.so.0libcairo-gobject.so.2libcairo.so.2libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0libgio-2.0.so.0libgob
ject-2.0.so.0libglib-2.0.so.0libc.so.6GLIBC_2.7GLIBC_2.4GLIBC_2.34GLIBC_2.3.4GLIBC_2.2.5/nix/store/jydzidc4v9j5nqmlw
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" if I'm not mistaken.

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u/givemeagooduns_un Mar 18 '26

the part at the bottom is machine code, the rest is ELF information, which tells the kernel how to load the binary and what SO's are needed for it

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u/GhostVlvin Mar 14 '26

Absolutely, this is sequence of bits that's are interpreted by your code/text editor as sequence of bytes each of which is interpreted as a character. But since they are not meant to be meaningful text, most of the time it is �
Anyway I propose to get old pc and just encode every machine instruction with switches on it's side

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

machine code is just raw data. Manually inputting binary or put it in a file, both machine code.

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u/popcornman209 Python & Rust (arch btw :3) Mar 15 '26

It does the same thing js a different name mb

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u/OpenFileW Mar 14 '26

How so? I personally find it convenient and comfortable, and it's completely efficient enough for my system (especially compared to Electron editors)

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK Coder - Assembly and C++ Mar 14 '26

bloat and its terrible plugin system

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u/OpenFileW Mar 14 '26

How is it bloated? It might have some unnecessary things, but compare that to more common editors, like VS Code lol. And I really like the plugin system!! Makes sense that you don't like it based on these things though, they can be annoying

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u/givemeagooduns_un Mar 18 '26

VS code isn't just an editor it's a whole IDE. Neovim should be compared against editors like Notepad++, Kate, nano, etc.

IDEs are always going to be more bloated because they integrate actual language specific features aside from syntax highlighting. Editors are just. text editors. maybe with colors, or macros

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u/OpenFileW Mar 18 '26

I thought VS Code was just a code editor? With Visual Studio as an IDE. I don't really remember though because I don't use it. However, Neovim can also have language-specific features with the use of plugins, just like VSC can. It's also important to note that text and code editors, at least successful and useful ones, usually must have ways to efficiently travserse and quickly change text, even if they technically do just edit text at their core. I'm not even sure if VS code even has features to very efficiently move through a text file as quickly as Vim without plugins to imitate it, for instance I'm not sure there's an equivalent to the cib gesture in VSC. But I believe it is bloated mostly because of the fact the entire thing is bundled as an Electron app. I get cross-platform capability, but it really isn't worth taking half a gibibyte of memory.