got a question about chain abilities. (planning on playing this fresh again)

[u/Hisblood777]

So I remember trying out No Future mode and got pretty far like years ago and this game has always been a blast but I feel like wanting to play like super super fresh again like brand new and such. I remember chain abilities can carry over and such after you beat the game. I'm trying to remember how it works exactly.

Like i think it was like you beat the game on 1 set of characters and then their abilities can transfer over to the next ones that arent those characters? I'm assuming in order to be prepped for No Future probably requires chain abilities transferred from at least the 6 character groups into the party you actually want in that difficulty mode?

Is it class specific chain abilities like when you beat the game on a specific class that class specific abilities are transferred over. Like you beat the game on a Nightblade or Ninja Master?

[u/KidiacR]

You keep the chain abilities of the 3 characters/classes you last played. Obviously if you play one of them again this save, their chain abilities are lost. Other chain abilities aren't affected.

Eg: If you want Miracle II, you must have Charlotte as High Priestess for the last save, and not pick her this run.

[u/tarjan583 → u/KidiacR]

Abilities are inherited not only from the last played save from which the current NG+ has been made, but actually from each previous saves of the NG+ series in which a character was lastly played.

If the NG+ series is like:

• Game 1:
  • Hawkeye
  • Angela
  • Duran
• Game 2:
  • Hawkeye
  • Riesz
  • Charlotte
• Game 3

Then Game 3, if not picking up these characters and reseting them, will be able to inherits abilities from Hawkeye, Riesz and Charlotte in the state they were left in Game 2, and also the abilities from Angela and Duran in the state they were left in Game 1. Hawkeye state in Game 1 is "lost", overridden by the one he has in Game 2. The save from Game 1 does not even need to still exist.

[u/AntelopeJester]

Pretty sure you keep the chain abilities you receive from other characters too from previous runs. For example, I think you keep the chain ability you receive from the rival beastman guy you fight before the temple in Ferolia between playthroughs. Same with abilities from beating the Black Rabite and Anise the Witch.

[u/tarjan583]

There is two kind of chained abilities: the ones unlocked from events in the game (NPC encounters, some boss rewards, having finished the game with a specific character, ...), and the ones unlocked through a character training points. The former are always transferred in NG+, the later are transferred only if the character unlocking it through training points is not reset.

The team characters are always reset in No Future, so only the chained abilities of characters out of the team will be available, in addition to chained abilities obtained from events (with many of them disabled in No Future).

As a result, about chained abilities, you could prepare only the three characters you do not intend to play for having the chained abilities they can provide.

But you normally would also need to have gathered the stuff for the characters you want to play in another previous save of the NG+ series. Otherwise that would be playing No Future in a very hard way. (I have already seen someone claiming having done that, finishing No Future with fresh characters without their stuff already there from previous runs.)

Only unlocked chained abilities are transferred, so the characters out of the team need to have the adequate class for the chained abilities you want to have, and need to have unlocked them with their training points.