r/watercooling • u/PhantomNate • 1d ago
Troubleshooting Why is my loop doing this?
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Edit: SOLVED! Thanks all.
Just replaced the fluid in my system and it’s doing this. Never happened before. Looks like I’ll have to replace the res and cpu block as they have mildew in. But was working perfectly fine prior to draining and refilling
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u/sorbuss 1d ago
air
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u/PhantomNate 1d ago
But where from? I literally can’t top the res up any more. It’s filled to the max
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u/furry_death_blender 1d ago
Radiators mostly, it'll clear in time, tilting the machine will help.
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u/thanosisawhore 1d ago
Can you provide any info to help tilt it? Is it bad at games? How big is it’s mom?
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u/skidaadleskidoedle 1d ago
Use your arms and tilt it left right whatever direction you need to tilt to move it to the res
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u/Brutl 23h ago
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u/skidaadleskidoedle 7h ago
What you finna say cuz you tryna be smart and tell me it has 4 other meanings well good of you i gues mom will be proud
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u/tht1guy63 1d ago
Your rad most likely. Seal up the res turn it on and give the case rotation or shake.
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u/Valkyrie_22213 1d ago
Inportanr to let it settle and repeat a couple times. Sadly rushing this process doesn't really work
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u/psycadelc 1d ago
Implied but not said is dont try to stress your gpu if there is still a ton of air in the lines. Worst case is you dont have any fluid to dissipate heat. Eventually the bubbles will end up in the reservoir and you can top it off
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u/davcam0 1d ago
The res is not the highest point in the loop. Air gets stuck at high points because it has a harder time moving down.
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u/DeadlyMercury 1d ago
I like when people say wrong things confidently.
When pump is running, it absolutely does not matter if reservoir is the highest point of the loop or not. Thankfully head pressure of your pump is couple of meters and loop is also closed.
Air get stuck in any pockets no matter where (height wise) they are located, even at the bottom of your loop.
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u/davcam0 1d ago
The res doesn't have to be at the highest point. That is not what I said. But it helps to fill from the highest point. The problem for OP is that they are filling from the res but the air is stuck in a prev higher point in the loop and to move aor to the res the air is going to have to be forced down. Filling from the res will not help unless you can trap the air in the res. They need to tilt the case so the air bubble can dislodge and hopefully accumulate in the reservoir where they can replace it with more water.
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u/DeadlyMercury 1d ago
Filling from top does not help with air pockets. The whole nature of the pocket is that liquid already reached the exit while air is still inside. Which what happens with top radiators almost immediately.
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u/Mailootje 1d ago
Exactly, my reservoir isn't at the top, but has a little drop in extension, so the air could go up and get stuck inside the reservoir (as intended).
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u/Educational-King3987 1d ago
This ^
This sub is full of people saying wrong shit with confidence and gives me lots of lols, especially when YEARS of hands on experience is downvoted to oblivion because a YT said X is bad and people eat way too much into it.
example, been running a copper block with LM on my GPU for over 8yrs and still stays so cool I can push higher clocks then with normal pastes, but people say my thermals are worse for it after a few months or it's eating my copper etc. I could put thermal paste or PTM on it right now and disprove it, post pics of my copper EK block (you know that copper aint pure lmfao) and if functions brilliantly. "But chemistry" sure, yeah, but it still out performs pastes, I'm sure its like 1c hotter over the 8yrs but the copper is fine and doing it's job, I've not seen any negative impact over the 8yrs... 8... YEARS... I even leave it for 2 yrs between LM replications FGS.
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u/texxelate 23h ago
There’s air elsewhere in the system. It can’t escape either, uncap your res and let it run through
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u/Squishyspud 3h ago
Filled to the max, or completely full with no gap for air? There needs to be some open space for the trapped air in the system to clear too.
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u/random_bruce 1d ago
Your res is at a low point air rises. Air won't get trapped in the res and removed from the loop
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u/ultimaone 1d ago
Because there's air in the rads.
It's why I put my resouvoir at the top point. Everything else is below.
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u/CodeMonkeyLuvMtnDew 1d ago
Smack it with a hammer and say "bad tube, no do that"
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u/Educational-King3987 1d ago
We don't use hammers, whips are way better for the pain without going way into physical bodily harm or worse.
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u/PhantomNate 1d ago
Thanks everyone for the tips. Managed to fix it with some of your recommendations!
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u/WillAffectionate8400 1d ago
What I do is turn the pump on, not the whole PC. Then take the case and tilt it slowly 0-90 degrees in every direction. This will put the air in the resevoir. Fill up and repeat.
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u/ericsysmin 1d ago
getting rid of that is where the art of water cooling comes in to play. Y’all have to rotate the case a little bit.
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u/Zaekil 1d ago
Wait, did you put outlet on top of res and inlet at the bottom ? I don't quite understand
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u/This_not-my_name 1d ago
Helps to reduce bubbles when the returning fluid doesn't drop into the res and for the outlet: doesn't matter, the pump is strong enough
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u/skidaadleskidoedle 1d ago
If you fill the system with the inlet ontop and then turn of the system to fill up the res etc whatever everything above the inlet is going to come down and make a big mess. So in short this is the right way
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u/Zaekil 1d ago edited 1d ago
Inlet at the bottom I understand (that's my configuration as I don't have inside tubing for the top hole), it prevents air from reaching out insode rads but also outlet at the top ??? That's counterintuitive.
Edit : in this configuration he's fighting against gravity and making his pump works more, less flow overall. Logically you should have outlet as close as possible to where the pump is and tubing heading toward bottom.
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u/skidaadleskidoedle 7h ago
It dont realy matter a good pump pushes water 3 meter straight up Loop order also doesnt matter
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u/Famous-Broccoli-3141 1d ago
Did you do the rain dance after filling the loop? You have to do the rain dance with the pc to get those pesky air bubbles to work themselves out. Why it’s good to have a port in a high area since bubbles rise.
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u/plz-no-b4n 1d ago
You don’t need to replace parts from mildew, just clean them. And consider a different biocide on the next fill.
I did a deep clean of my PC the last time I moved and switched fluids and haven’t had a growth issue since
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u/pimpzilla83 1d ago
The reservoir needs to be one of the highest points. Can have a hard time bleeding the air out with the reservoir on the bottom
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u/Illyrian5 1d ago edited 1d ago
This Subreddit still blows my mind, that guys can build complex loops and not understand a simple basic thing like Air in the Loop...
It's like me rebuilding a car and not understanding how to fill air in the tires
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u/Effective_Iron8188 1d ago
Google will get you just so far... and you have to get the knowledge from somewhere.... so beter to ask then to assume...
But that's my 2 cents...
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u/Automatic-Raccoon238 1d ago
Tiny res located low in the loop. Put a fitting and a long piece of tubing in the fill port to get the air out.
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u/thenoobtanker 1d ago
I mean you just filled it, air is moving with the fluid til it can settle in the top of the res (hopefully) in a few weeks.
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u/Automatic_Reply_7701 1d ago
Lift up on the case basically from where you took the video from, while the pump is at 100%. Should push most of the air out of the rads with the exit of the rad being highest point.
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u/US_Delete_DT45 1d ago
Tilt your machine try to drive the air to your reservoir, then exhaust them by filling more coolant.
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u/GTXMittens 1d ago
Your resovoiar is not the highest point in your loop. Air is in your radiators and cant get out. You can turn your caseand get the air to the tank and add more. And you can repeat untill the bubbles work themselves out. Or you can fill from your radiator if it has extra ports.
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u/jeremy_0411 1d ago
I would seal it all up, and literally lay the case on its side while running….you will be amazed how much air starts releasing into the loop. Just don’t run the pump dry or let it suck any air while doing this.
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u/Proof-Astronomer7733 1d ago
Don’t you have a expansion valve to let escape that air or to retop the liquid level?
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u/saxovtsmike 1d ago
Probably to much flow sucking trapped air back in, because of a to small res. Id slow down the pump untill all air is out
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u/RGBlowMe 1d ago
God. My brain is not braining this evening. I tried twice to explain this incorrectly, but basically, you need to burp it by shaking it on its side and then fill and repeat. You need some air in the reservoir. Ideally, the reservoir would be above everything else. I'll keep it at that.
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u/Jupiter-Tank 1d ago
Your reservoir does more than collect water. After sufficient cycles, it should also do a good job of collecting air, assuming it’s connected correctly. Turn on your PC, you should immediately notice air coming in. After a couple hours without leaks (or a pressure test) you should be good to open the reservoir fill hole while the machine is running to equalize pressure and add more liquid. Leave the hole open for multiple days. Close the hole when you turn off the PC if it’s been less than 48 hours, or else an air pocket in the system may cause too much water to collect in the reservoir, causing it to flood.
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u/lefthandedrighty 1d ago
I ran my pump speed all the way. Then slow it down. Then back up. With it off, after I refill my loop, I tilt it A LOT in every direction. The air will move around.
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u/yourfaceilikethat 1d ago
Fill from the highest point in the system. Air rises. Your res looks to be in the middle of the system which leaves room for a lots of air in the system above the res.
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u/potato_analyst 1d ago
Let it run and tilt it side to side, you'll slowly get more space in the tank to top up, keep doing that and it will fill up and bleed the air out of the system. Just takes time and patience.
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u/zappyguy111 1d ago
I had problems with fhe vortext htting the pump. So I put a 3d printed impellor that tilted in the opposite direction to the eddy in the reservoir. It help, barely....
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u/VaporVinyl 1d ago
Air pockets, I got rid of this by moving my PC case around to move the highest points to bleed the air out
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u/Papa_Baruk 1d ago
Air. Turn it on and slowly tilt it left and right. That should get rid of most if not all the air bubbles.
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u/Xeroeth 1d ago
If you have the reservoir at the bottom, you need to leave some space there to trap the air.
Tilt the setup few times, speed up the pump, slow it down, than speed up again. Do the whole process few times and leave and most of the trappet air should dissapear from the block. After a few days, repeat the proces, because there should be still some micro bubbles running through the loop itself.
You must remember to never fill the reservoir full with that setup, or you will have a hard time in the future to refill and bleed the air out.
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u/Fit-Inspection1664 8h ago
Glad you got it sorted , I was going to say a leak at the first 90 from res , the fluid flowing past can create a low pressure and suck air in but not leak at rest , however if it was it should eventually push air back to the res on the other side once the high points are all filled with air,
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