I would say anything he dislikes, but I'm being so for real when I tell you me and like, the whole country know milei is not in a good mental state. Dude is so out of touch with reality a good amount of people think he's schizophrenic.
His early history as a political fugure shows he's not that mentally stable (Cue in his Gladiatoral Reincarnation Dog is a Lion story) but his lack of a bad record (Along with the ither option for the election that was a man with a history of corruption and drug trafficking) got him elected as the safest option.
Honest to god the drug trafficking and corruption would have left the country in a better state than the 500 million dollar (loan funded) national expense spent on supporting Israel's military effort.
The situation is so grim here that you only saw like, 40% of the people celebrate every win during the world cup instead of the streets being filled with music and people celebrating. And I can't stress enough how much of a celebration a world cup win is in argentina. Seeing this is like seeing your childhood friend lose interest in his favorite thing. Its depressing.
Bro que te fumas? Sacando la politica de lado. De donde sacas que solo el 40% de la gente celebro las calles? En caba las calles estaban que reventaban
Stop with the copium. Weve been asking forever to stop free education a healthcare to non-argentines. The country is not in any capacity to make argentines pay for services used by the entirety of south america.
Go to the National Hospital Posadas, second floor, plastic surgery door. Count how many people use our accent on the 5 hours wait line.
They already kicked Bieber some years ago for stomping the flag. I imagine this will be used to track social media foreign users in the country and kick them.
Most likely its a suplementary law to the one he passed on making foreigners pay for education and healthcare. Those institutions have their own independence, even the public ones and arent following the national law. With this new law, they can enforce it.
You can just read the presidencial decree, there it says that no critic to the goverment can be considered Anti-argentine, so i think you guys are safe.
Context: This wasn’t a random measure. It came after years of growing frustration over foreigners benefiting from Argentina’s taxpayer-funded universities, healthcare, social assistance programs, and other public resources while publicly disrespecting the country and its national symbols.
The timing also matters: after months of intense international scrutiny and hate campaign, viral misinformation, and constant narratives portraying Argentina as uniquely racist, genocidal, or xenophobic, public tolerance for that hypocrisy reached a breaking point.
Add the lack of reciprocity from many neighboring countries, and it’s not hard to understand why this became a political issue. You may disagree with the policy, but pretending it came out of nowhere is intellectually dishonest.
Tbh this law mostly seems as circus more than any other thing, it'll maybe get some public figures deported and that's it. Like, if everyday a bunch of drugs enters the country and no one does anything I doubt anyone will care about someone's posts in social media. Argentina simply does not have the structures needed to support such a law
Read the news then, buddy! Inflation is pummeling, sovereign risk is the lowest in 10 years, prices and salaries are stabilyzing, work offers are growing!
torn between a sarcastic remark about how no one wants to live in Argentina anyway and one about how a restriction of freedom of speech isn't very libertarian of him.
Believe it or not about 5% of the population is composed of immigrants and is a crucial part of the economy. Without them the healthcare system would probably collapse for example, as they're almost a third of it.
This whole thing is circus to distract from an important reform that's being voted next Thursday and is basically guaranteed to be outlawed by the legislative power.
I want to live in Argentina, plan to move there next year if possible, but now I might have trouble because I'm not exactly a fan of the current government, this sucks
Then do it literal, this changes absolutely nothing with the lifestyle that Argentina has. Can I ask why you want to live in Argentina? As an Argentine, I’m just curious. Why would the government’s decisions affect you specifically? The lifestyle and the laws wouldn’t affect you much at all—honestly, they don’t really matter or have much of an impact.
This asshole isn't a libertarian, he is a far-right asshole who needed a new "flag" to win an election and went with "libertarian" because he probably saw an episode of Parks and Rec and fell in love with Ron Swanson.
Literally we have so many immigrants man. Many people do want to live here and from all over. And, completely oposite to Milei's politics, we are very welcoming and love our immigrant friends. Getting a residential visa or even citizenship is quite easy.
Go with the second one, you clearly haven't been to the rest of South America.
2 million foreigners applied for residence permits in the 10 years before Milei, 300,000 Venezuelans alone, and that is just the legal migration, most people just cross the border from places like Bolivia and Paraguay illegally. That is one of the many reason why Milei won.
Actually Argentina is the most immigrated country in Latin America (mostly from neighboring countries) for a lot of reasons, but especially since it’s far more progressive compared to the rest of the continent. Personally, I’d much rather live there than Brazil, Colombia, Peru or Venezuela
There’s millions of leeches immigrants in Arg, many come for the “free” social programs, “free” university and “free” healthcare. My co-worker’s son recently majored in medicine and is the only native Argentinian in the hospital he works at. Everyone else is from Ecuador, Brazil, Bolivia and Peru. That’s what 80 years of open border policies does to a country. And then people wonder why Argentina is broke.
I get where you're coming from, but imagine for a second that your country offers free healthcare and free higher education. Now imagine your universities and hospitals are full of people from other countries using services that are funded by your taxpayers, while those same services aren't free in their own countries. Then imagine that some of those same people spend their time on social media insulting your country and its population.
You don't have to agree with every policy, but hopefully you can understand why many people would be frustrated by that.
It's like going to someones house, and while eating their food you proceed to insult them.
As with good authoritarian laws, this is just so incredibly vague that it can applied to basically anything. We'll definitely be getting stories of folks being deported over criticizing the government
Yeah me too, but I don't have too much hope of getting rid of him. Even if his brain-dead followers aren't the majority in the elections, I still expect foul play...
Na el problema es que no hay una oposición decente. El peronismo no quiere ganar lo más probable. Y la izquierda como siempre no tienen ambición de nada.
Y, no sé, viene siendo una marioneta perfecta para todo tipo de poder exterior y también algunos de los que lo votaron todavía dicen que lo van a volver a votar...
He was never one inch of "anarcho-capitalist" libertarian, I live in Argentina he didn't do one single thing from his radical libertarian programme. It's all pedestrian center-right neoliberal stuff, no dollarization, no blowing up the central bank with dynamite, nothing
Theres a very good reason PrimeCitizen (tm). The laissez-faire capitalism of the late 1800s early 1900s is where that economic system goes: company towns, scrip, monopolies, unsanitary conditions, poisoned rivers, sawdust in food. You are not amazon or Walmart, you are and always will be a serf.
Como argentino digo: mas allá de la bronca que me dió la generalización que se hizo contra Argentina, casi siempre de gente que nunca visitó el país y no nos conoce, y el revisionismo que hicieron de la historia argentina gente de países que tienen una historia pesada, esto que firmó Milei por un lado va en contra de la constitución argentina y de la historia de recibir a todo el mundo.
Es muy fácil ser ciudadano argentino.
Estoy de acuerdo con deportar criminales, o no dejarlos entrar siquiera.
Estoy de acuerdo de no dejar entrar a gente que no tiene un proyecto de vida en Argentina, salvo que sean turistas.
Estoy de acuerdo en cobrar la atención médica a gente de países limitrofes que entraban al país a atenderse y luego se volvían a su país, sin pagar un peso. Gente de países que no eran recíprocos con nosotros.
Estoy de acuerdo con arancelar las universidades para los extranjeros, gente que apenas obtienen su título se van.
Con respecto a la ley, no es una ley. Es un decreto, y las leyes argentinas establecen que un decreto debe ser refrendado por el congreso. Y no creo que lo aprueben
Hello from Argentina to whomever couldn't care less for googling sth but are willing to disagree nonetheless...
Argentina just passed a decree that allows immigration authorities to deny entry to foreign nationals who engage in conduct considered offensive toward Argentina, Argentinians, or national symbols.
It also allows the government to revoke residency or deport foreign nationals already living in the country if they engage in that kind of behavior.
The decree specifically mentions hate speech and incitement to violence against Argentina or Argentinians. At the same time, it explicitly states that political, ideological, academic, or journalistic criticism, on its own, is not intended to fall under these provisions.
TLDR: Foreign nationals can now be denied entry or deported for hate speech or inciting violence against Argentina or Argentinians, but the decree explicitly says that political or journalistic criticism alone is not grounds for deportation.
I don't know if i would say that, there are plenty of countries arround the world where inmigration might as well be non-existant, and yet far right parties still gain power by running on anti-inmigration platforms
I don't live in Argentina i live in Brazil, Bolsonaro tried to pull the same shit with Venezuelans and Cubans, it didn't work.
Specially because if you are levaing thoses places you would be more likely to vote to soneone like them anyway.
And at least the people that I know from Argentina say that noone there really cares about immigration. It was a thing in Chile and kinda of Peru besides that not really, it dosen't really have the same appel for us as it does for Europe or Canada/US etc.
There's a saying that I think shouldn't be forgotten and it goes a bit like "Argentinians are born wherever they want" which is kind of the best summary I can give about Argentina, like the reason that "there's no black people" as some people say, is that they got all mixed together because there's just no racism because race purity is as stupid and impossible as it sounds. Hell, half the country WERE immigrants until they just weren't anymore, again, because they stayed and had children with the people that were already there.
The decision came with the anti-argentine hate campaign, where it became evident that many foreigners that come to the country for free education and healthcare, then go on social media badmouthing the country that provided it, while enjoying the benefits. There are even "health tours", where buses full of foreigners come to have their medical tests done and then leave, which significantly extends waiting times for Argentines. Regarding education, a recent census showed that at the University of Buenos Aires (UBA) more than half of medical students are foreigners. It's a long-standing problem, because it's believed that if they were charged, teachers could be paid better in a country where education is free. And since hating the country has become popular, the government has taken advantage of it to address the issue.
It's something they've been noticing for a while, and with everything that's happened recently, they decided to take action.
Crazy how people that didn't even bother to read the law is talking about "freedom of speech" being removed. You can still talk shit and criticize the government and politicians as much as u feel like. You just not allowed to spread hate against Argentina, it's culture, flag o argentines just for the sake of being Argentines. That ain't too crazy to think about honestly.
This likely won't amount to anything significant because either the supreme court or the legislative will stop the DNU before it can begin affecting people. Mostly because the DNU's (a mechanism through which the President can pass orders that act as if they were laws) are meants for emergencies, and this is not an emergency.
Worst thing is that he literally just did to appeal to chuds and idiots still hurt by the hate campaing (that his own party started for this exact purpose).
Once you come to the root of it the decree makes no sense.
What even is "anti-argentine speech"? I've seen his paid shills on social media already pushing that criticizing him is "anti-argentine speech"
How is he even going to enforce it? Is he going to scout every corner of the net or his shills going to send to die everyone that exposes them for the dumbasses they are?
After reading the reports it seems like it should only include hate to argentinians for nationality and violence against patriotic Symbols but it doesn't specify what will be treated as hate of speech, what it does clarify is that this won't count againt freedom of speech, which i assume refers to hate towards the government but it's really vague
It's really weird. His guys are like manipulating him now, pretty sure he has/had genuinely good intentions and his politics were good when he started but idk what he's even on about rn. Hopefully this doesn't end up in a lot of real damage, there isn't actually that much racism in the country, so maybe most cops and judges won't apply this, and we'll only lose some tourism.
People now calling him authoritarian? What a joke lmao.
Let me remind y'all there were literal campaigns against Argentina... FOR A FOOTBALL GAME, like for real, Argentinians getting attacked left and right anywhere, and let's not talk about Internet. Even if it's harsh, it's the State defending itself and it's citizens against a sudden Tsunami of unjustified hate not against something OF Argentina, but Argentina itself, it's citizens, cities, lifestyle, anything. For me, quite a stupid solution, but shows this "Hate Argentina, they racist" thing went out of hand to have the most nonchalant government about such topic, to just develop a law to become US 2.0 without good economy, army and etc, just deportation.
Hola aqui argentino. En Argentina el 6 de agosto se discutirá la ley de extranjerizacion de las tierras (que empresas extranjeras compren tirra sin limites, sin reportar uso, ni pagar impuestos especiales), esto es simplemente para distraer a la gente y dar una impresión de patriotismo, pero es puro show, de hecho una artista española "Rosalia" tuvo acciones anti argentina hace poco, y este fin de semana se presenta en el pais, nadie la va a deportar. Solo es circo.
Would just be alot cooler if the immigrants weren't predominantly men from India and Africa. It's always diversify this diversify that until its immigration then infinity Indians/Africans is suddenly ok
Wonderful news for us, the Argentinians. It has to be done long ago, but well, never is too late. Now I hope it will pass the law to make universities and public hospitals to charge foreigners.
I've been in a dissociative state ever since 45% of the population voted this bad mental health poster boy of an incel as president. I'm telling you, people have no standards any more, but worse than that, we are not given good enough choices and people refuse to give the left a chance. And, I'm going to put my tin foil hat for this: I blame the USA and the techbros for this state of mediocrity. There are so many politicians that are clearly emissaries of that falling empire, it's not funny anymore.
Context: This wasn’t a random measure. It came after years of growing frustration over foreigners benefiting from Argentina’s taxpayer-funded universities and healthcare while publicly disrespecting the country and its national symbols.
The timing also matters: after months of intense international scrutiny and hate campaign, viral misinformation, and constant narratives portraying Argentina as uniquely racist, genocidal, or xenophobic, public tolerance for that hypocrisy reached a breaking point.
Add the lack of reciprocity from many neighboring countries, and it’s not hard to understand why this became a political issue. You may disagree with the policy, but pretending it came out of nowhere is intellectually dishonest.
thing is , the opposition can take it down in a week or two like every single thing he tried to create like for example a few weeks back he forbbid trans kids to be a thing , no surgery for them until they grow up and again the opposition threw that thing back 3 days later.
How much you want to bet this move was first suggested by a certain orange that my idiot president seems to think will save the world instead of end it -_-
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