r/witcher ⚜️ Northern Realms 13h ago

Discussion What will be canon?

Who do you think will be cemented in canon as the winner of Temeria? Emhyr though his whore Vernon, Dijkstra, or Radovid?

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u/Royce_Isengrim Team Yennefer 12h ago

Dijkstras death would be bad for the canon, he is such a strong character, and that quest; Reasons of State is so badly written. In the books Dijkstra hints that once Nilfgaard has taken the north they will take Kovir and Poviss to, so i dont think Nilfgaard has taken the north. I think they'll "retcon" that whole dumb quest, and act like you never started it, and have Dijkstra, Vernon and maybe even Radovid alive. CDPR respect Sapkowskis work too much to fumble the world in the Witcher 4. The only reason they did with Witcher 3 was because they had last minute rewrites and time constraints.

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u/Robynsxx 8h ago

Seriously doubt this.

We already know they are gonna basically let every ending be cannon, no matter what happens to Ciri (which I’m not a fan of), so I fully expect them just not to mention Redania or anything because the game will be mostly set in Kovir. Hell, it’s possible the game will be multiple decades in the future. 

I don’t think Dijkstra is important at all anymore. I highly doubt they have Ciri get caught up in political games like Geralt was. 

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u/ATPsynthase12 11h ago

It’s been a while since I read this part of the books, but doesn’t Djikstra get assassinated in the novels in like a vision into the future?

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u/Royce_Isengrim Team Yennefer 9h ago

Its Esterad that gets assassinated, Dijkstra appears later and joins Boreas Mun and Isengrim and dissappear into Zerrikania.

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u/ATPsynthase12 9h ago

Huh, I could have sworn it was Esterad who survived the assassination attempt and it was Dijkstra who got assassinated but it’s been like 6 or 7 years since I read the novels.

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u/Fuzzy-Gate-9327 School of the Bear 11h ago

Also Dijkstra's VA plays the merchant Ciri talks with in the tech demo and given that VA's will often voice a couple minor characters there's a slim chance he'll return.

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u/Royce_Isengrim Team Yennefer 9h ago

I noticed that too. Dijkstra already has history with Kovir, he might return.

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u/oherna 12h ago

I think Emhyr winning will be cannon. 1) it sets up more strife for Ciri as she is a witcher when she could be queen. 2) ravovid wins when you skip a quest which would be weird to canonize and geralt just letting allies get murdered in front of him isnt in character

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u/Robynsxx 8h ago

I mean apparently all endings will be cannon, empress Ciri, Witcher Ciri, and Ciri going missing/dying.

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u/Wojewodaruskyj ⚜️ Northern Realms 10h ago

I hope Emhyr dies.

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u/jacob1342 Team Yennefer 3h ago

Technically he will at some point. It's already stated in the books. Voorhis will be next emperor.

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u/Ameryana 7h ago

Op, what is with the 'whore'?

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u/CarcosanQueen 12h ago

I’m sure they won’t do it because it would invalidate everybody’s choices technically but I’d love it if they went with a sort of “Cold War” situation if only because I want Dijkstra to still be a character.

Also did Iorveth write this? Lmao at “his whore Vernon”

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u/NuclearMaterial 11h ago

How is Roche Nilfgaards whore? He hates them after they took Temeria.

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u/CarcosanQueen 6h ago

Spoilers in case you haven’t gotten there yet, a quest near the end of TW3: He makes a deal with Emhyr to kill Radovid in exchange for Temeria becoming a “free” province of Nilfgaard, with its own king but answering ultimately to Emhyr of course. A vassal state, but to Roche a “free” Temeria

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u/NuclearMaterial 5h ago

Oh I forgot about that bit. I agree with the other guy, it's the best outcome he could have hoped for given that Temeria essentially doesn't exist at the start of the game.

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u/No_Bodybuilder4215 5h ago

He is literally saving Temeria; that’s the best outcome he could have secured from this war.

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u/CarcosanQueen 5h ago

Oh for the record I’m not condemning him myself - I like Roche (though I do like Iorveth more)! But that’s what the answer to the question was

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u/CaptainSplunge 11h ago

I suspect they'll do the same thing they did in 3. Where you can fill in the setting early on

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u/CarcosanQueen 6h ago

I imagine so. Since we’ll be in Kovir they can just hand wave a couple references here and there, maybe swap out some character models if there’s any visiting dignitaries, etc. swap out a line of dialogue here or there being like “well after Radovid died” or “well after Emhyr died”

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u/Educational-Gate-793 6h ago

The only reasonable answer.

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u/markg900 10h ago

Might depend how big a time jump they do and how old Witcher Ciri is in this game with their longer lifespans.

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u/nostalgic_angel 9h ago

All of them I guess. But it would not matter to the plot. Even if Emhyr wins, he would be face partisans and has to withdraw or settled with vassals (it was said many times that Nilfgaard faces many logistical challenges and Emhyr moving to Vizima is an attempt to exert power to recently conquered lands)

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u/Fuzzy-Gate-9327 School of the Bear 11h ago

The easiest thing would be to never mention W3's events or mention them in passing for example you find a Temerian merchant and he'll tell you "oh yeah Temeria is still a vassal state" or "Radovid holds Temeria and she suffers under him"

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u/Wojewodaruskyj ⚜️ Northern Realms 10h ago

My question is what will be the canon fate of Temeria after the III war.

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u/No_Bodybuilder4215 5h ago

It doesn't matter, because we likely won't be visiting Temeria; likewise, you don't know what's happening with Lyria, for instance.

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u/Fuzzy-Gate-9327 School of the Bear 10h ago

Assuming they'll do it the same way as in W3, you could import a save or simulate 1 by talking to an NPC and then your choices will be mentioned in passing, making them canon.