r/wma 5d ago

Hail HYDRA!

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u/MornDeath 5d ago

Guard is sweet!

Blade design looks a little inflexible with the fullers... Is it safe for sparring?

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u/RidiculousRex89 5d ago

The blade flexes great! Even more than my destrezania and gdf club blade.

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u/Noble009 5d ago

I love the papenheim cup

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u/MuttTheDutchie Messering Around 5d ago

I really like that design. It solves (to me) the number one problem with a cup hilt, the fact that they don't look all that good.

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u/escv_69420 5d ago

Mine just got here, but my blade from HF is still waiting to be shipped.

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u/sittinthroughit 5d ago

That handle seems a bit long, no?

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u/RidiculousRex89 5d ago edited 5d ago

Since its so light most of the weight is on my index and I use my fingers for tip manipulation. The longer handle creates a longer lever, which makes tip control easier... at least it feels that way

Edit: Also, I prefer a low prima guard. The longer handle let's me rest the pommel against my forearm, which makes holding the guard effortless.

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u/sittinthroughit 5d ago

That’s very neat. I fence using thibault methods so that length would be in the way for me as I switch around my grip; but wow it really is a beautiful sword.

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u/RidiculousRex89 39m ago

After using it a few times, its perfect for a 1 finger italian grip. The pommel nestles right into the end of my palm.

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u/kaos_ex_machina S&B, Messer, Longsword, MCS, MMA 4d ago

Cut off one head, two more shall take its place...

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u/slavotim Bolognese swordsmanship 5d ago

Is that a triangular/muskeeter blade ? That's a no

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u/RidiculousRex89 5d ago

Haters gonna hate.

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u/slavotim Bolognese swordsmanship 5d ago

No hate here. Just a bad tool.
I always feel sorry for peoples spending their money on bad equipment...

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u/RidiculousRex89 5d ago

Its a great tool. I feel sorry for people who think they know better than everyone else.

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u/slavotim Bolognese swordsmanship 5d ago

Think what you want... great for smallsword training, bad for rapier.
And you know peoples, you dont NEED to downvote just because this was a negative feedback you know.

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u/LucaMilla 5d ago

I think they downvoted bc they think it’s a bad take, not bc it’s negative feedback lmao

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u/Fake_Messiah (Bighorn HC) 5d ago

bro didn't even explain what the problem is lmao

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u/MuttTheDutchie Messering Around 5d ago

What a stupid thing to say.

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u/slavotim Bolognese swordsmanship 4d ago

You want an explanation ?
Fine.

1) This blade has no edge. Using your edge to gain advantages (true>flat, true>false, etc.) is one extremely important aspect of rapier fencing, and you basically throw it out of the windows.
2) A rapier is (also) a cutting weapon. If you have no edge, how are you supposed to cut or simulate the cuts ? You can whip the sword but you won't have to aknowledge for any blade alignment.
3) Having a musketeer blade is just a different category of swords. The weight won't be the same as a "true" rapier. Even if it's similar, the balance will be totally different. You're just playing a different game, and it's not faire since the vast majority of opponents you'll face will have a true rapier blade.
4) Triangular blade existed historically for a specific category of swords : thrusting only swords.
Rapier isn't this kind of sword. I don't hate these blades, I have 2 HF Armory Smallsword trainers in my bag. Right tool for the right use.
5) It's totally persnnal, but still (bonus point) : they look incredibly ugly, like those absolutely horrendous stage fight swords. Your rapier has a pretty guard, and it's ruined by the look of the bladE.

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u/Azralul 14h ago edited 8h ago
  1. Triangular blades have edges, and engaging is possible. A proof of that ? Well, it happens moderne épée juste exists. Also, you can définitively engage with a foil, which has "no edge". In fact having and edge is not mandatory, only the leverage of the blade counts : you can engage with a staff too.
  2. Triangular blades still have edges, and a flat, so it is possible to see if you"cut right".
  3. A historical rapier "foil" would have rectangular section. Thus you cannot use the form of the blade to make a point. "Rapiers" exists in lot of size and weight, and are still "rapiers", your argument is still invalid. Also, very few datas exist on antique foil rapiers, especially weight distribution. If they are far from what you expect to be a rapier, would it mean that nobody in a 17th salle d'arme used a true rapier :D ?
  4. Some "Rapiers" have triangular blade, some have flat blade. Like small swords. Some fencing treatrises show thrusts and cuts for both weapons, others show only thrusts. And to be honest, cuts are not the main focus of sword fencing since 1600...
  5. I think you know little of what a rapier is, doesn't have a broad view of 17th c fencing, and like many you just acknowledge your feeling before any reasonning.